[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:07] GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. 9:00. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO OUR WEEKLY OR BI WEEKLY COMMISSIONERS COURT DATE IS SEPTEMBER THE 2ND. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, ASK IF YOU'RE ABLE. PLEASE JOIN COMMISSIONER JONES IN OUR PRAYER AND THE PLEDGES BY COMMISSIONER SMITH. GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY. FATHER GOD, TO CONDUCT AND DO THE WORK OF YOU FOR OUR COUNTY. CONTINUE TO LEAD US AND GUIDE US. ALLOW YOUR LIGHT TO REFLECT IN EACH ONE OF US AS WE LIVE AND CONTINUE TO WALK THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY IN THIS EARTH. WE ASK THAT WE GIVE YOU ALL THE PRAISE, THE HONOR, AND THE GLORY. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. PROCRASTINATION I AGREE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK GOD. HONOR. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER HEAVEN, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ALL RIGHT, FIRST UP, IT'S GOING TO BE ITEM NUMBER ONE. IT'S GOING TO BE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. MOTION. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED. AGENDA IS APPROVED. THAT BRINGS [PUBLIC COMMENT] US TO PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING. THAT'S GOING TO BE MR. LARRY PARR. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE IN A WHILE, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT WEARING MY SLACKS THIS MORNING. I, I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE SUPPOSED TO WEAR LONG PANTS, SO I I'M HERE IN SHORTS AND I'LL TRY AND NEXT TIME DRESS APPROPRIATELY. I'VE COME ALSO THIS MORNING TO DISCUSS THE TEN COMMANDMENT BASE. I TALKED TO SHANNON QUITE A BIT. THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF US WHO DONATED TO THIS TEN COMMANDMENT STUFF, AND I'M A LITTLE PERPLEXED BY THE FACT THAT THIS IS A BASE. I THINK SHE'S GOT A BID FOR $8,000 TO PUT IN, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH A STANDARD. I CALL IT A SIDEWALK TYPE BASE. I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A 12 INCH BEAM WITH FOUR INCHES IN THE MIDDLE. I THINK SHE'S HAD TO PAY EXTRA MONEY FOR PERMITS AND STUFF. AND I JUST HATE TO THINK THAT $8,000 IS HOLDING UP THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. I FEEL LIKE WITH ALL THE WORK THAT THE COUNTY HAS GIVEN TO ALCO AND SOME OF THESE ENGINEERS AND ALL THIS, I THINK THIS IS IN THE CONCRETE COMPANY. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD APPRECIATE THEM DONATING TO THIS, AS THIS IS SOMETHING FOR THE CITIZENS OF WALLER COUNTY. SO I WOULD THINK THAT WE COULD CUT THROUGH SOME OF THIS DELAY, BECAUSE I THINK SHANNON HAS WORKED VERY HARD. SHE'S TRIED VERY HARD TO GET THIS DONE. SHE KEEPS RUNNING INTO ROADBLOCKS. I WOULD HOPE THAT Y'ALL, SINCE YOU ALL REPRESENT US, THAT Y'ALL WOULD TRY AND NOT DO ANYTHING WEIRD OR ILLEGAL OR ANYTHING, BUT JUST SAY WE SPENT $60 MILLION, WE GOT A $280 MILLION MOBILITY BOND. WE'RE POURING CONCRETE ALL OVER THIS COUNTY. WE'RE DIGGING DITCHES, WE'RE POURING BEAMS. WE'RE DOING ALL THIS. CAN'T YOU ALL FIND SOMEBODY TO HELP HER GET THE $8,000 FOUNDATION IN SO WE CAN GET THE GET THE TEN COMMANDMENTS SET UP? THAT'S MY COMMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT MAYBE CAME IN LATE OR NOT FAMILIAR WITH OUR POLICY THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE DAIS? JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY I'VE GOT TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS. ONE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BECAUSE WE'RE REQUIRED TO SET CERTAIN TIMELINES ON THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING IN THIS THIS COURTROOM, SEPTEMBER THE 8TH, WHICH IS NEXT TUESDAY. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A BUDGET HEARING AND APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET. AND THEN THE 16TH IS WHEN WE WILL ADOPT THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE. CORRECT. YOU'LL ADOPT THE BUDGET ON THE EIGHTH, AND YOU WILL HAVE A TAX RATE HEARING AND ADOPT THE TAX RATE ON THE 16TH. SO BUT TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH, 9:00 RIGHT HERE. THAT'LL BE A WEEK FROM QUITE A WEEK. OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT IS JUST REMIND EVERYBODY. THE WALLER COUNTY FAIR IS GOING TO GET CRANKED UP INTO THIS MONTH. IT'S THE LAST WEEKEND OF THE MONTH. IT STARTS THE WEEK OF THE 28TH. I KNOW WE'VE GOT A HANDFUL OF FANTASTIC YOUNG LADIES THAT ARE VYING TO BE THE [00:05:04] NEXT COUNTY SHOW QUEEN, FAIR QUEEN, AND THEY'RE OUT SELLING TICKETS. THEY'VE GOT DIFFERENT PACKAGES FOR INDIVIDUAL PASSES. THEY'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE PASSES. AND THAT'S HOW THEY COMPETE TO GET POINTS. AND THEN THEY HAVE A PRETTY INTENSIVE INTERVIEW PROCESS. BUT SUPPORT THOSE YOUNG LADIES. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE FAIR GET THEIR TICKETS FROM THERE. BUT IT'S A GREAT TIME. A LOT OF GREAT KIDS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY SHOWING THEIR ANIMALS PARTICIPATING IN LEADERSHIP PROJECTS. THEY HAVE A GREAT RODEO AND CONCERTS IN THE EVENINGS, AND MAKE SURE YOU SHOW UP FOR THE SALE ON SATURDAY AND SUPPORT THEM. ALL [CONSENT AGENDA] RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THAT'LL MOVE US TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION. SECOND. MOTION SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANY OPPOSED? CONSENT AGENDA IS [COUNTY ENGINEER] APPROVED. THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 28. MOTION. SECOND. WE'LL JUST TAKE UP 28 AND 29 MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND FOR 28 AND 29. RALSTON YOU'D LIKE TO SAY GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. NUMBER 28 IS CHANGE ORDER FOR THE RALLY ROAD PROJECT. AND THIS IS FOR THE PORTABLE CHANGE MESSAGE SIGNS THAT WE REQUESTED JUST TO INFORM THE PUBLIC. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THAT ADDITIONAL CHANGE IS FOR US. AND THEN NUMBER 29 IS JUST THE FINAL RECONCILIATION. IF YOU REMEMBER, WE ADDED SOME SOME ADDITIONAL PIPE AND HOT MIX ASPHALT SINCE WE WERE ALREADY OUT THERE, KIND OF EXTENDED THE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT. AND THIS ALSO DELETES ITEMS WE DIDN'T USE. SO IT'S THE FINAL CHANGE ORDER TO CLEAN EVERYTHING UP. PERFECT. CHECK THAT ONE OFF THE LIST AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 28 OR 29? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. NOT OPPOSED. BOTH ARE APPROVED. THAT WILL TAKE US TO ITEM NUMBER. YEP. COMMISSIONER, CAN WE MOVE UP NUMBER 48? THE [TREASURER (Part 1 of 2)] PERSON WHO'S PRESENTING NEEDS TO. HE'S GOT SOME MORE. HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SHORTLY. SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET THAT PRESENTATION KNOCKED OUT. I FORGOT ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO. THIS IS FOR ITEM NUMBER 20. DO WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION FIRST. WE. I'M SORRY. YES. IT'S ITEM NUMBER 48. 49. OKAY. MOTION. MOTION SECOND TO APPROVE 49 IS A APPROVAL FOR TO SELECT THE COUNTY INSURANCE AND RELATED COVERAGES BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE COUNTY BROKER AND CO INSURANCE AND APPROVAL ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR THE PLAN. YEAR OF DECEMBER 1ST, 2026 THROUGH NOVEMBER 30TH, 2027. THERE YOU ARE. I THINK HE'S GOT A PRESENTATION FOR US. MAYBE. PERFECT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING SIR. I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THIS SHORT AND SWEET. I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE A LONG AGENDA TODAY, AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. I WAS HERE PROBABLY ABOUT A MONTH AGO OR SO, A LITTLE OVER, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT THE BENEFIT SIDE OF THINGS. SO WE PUT A PRESENTATION TOGETHER AND I'M PRETTY PLEASED WITH THE RESULTS ON KIND OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING, WHERE WE'RE GOING. I'M BRIAN STALLINGS, ANKO HUB INTERNATIONAL IS THE NAME OF OUR COMPANY. I'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS ABOUT 18 YEARS NOW, AND WE HAVE QUITE A FEW COUNTIES. AND I'M GOING TO JUMP IN THIS PRESENTATION JUST TO, TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT HAPPENED HERE. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY, PLEASE STOP ME. I'M HEADED TO AN ENROLLMENT MEETING IN THE BIG CITY OF CALDWELL AFTER THIS. SO WE HAVE THEIR BENEFITS AS WELL. BUT OUR MEDICAL MARKET OVERVIEW, IF YOU SEE HERE, YOUR CURRENT CARRIERS, TAC AND BLUE CROSS, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS UHC AND NONSTOP. WE HAVE SOME COMPETITIVE NONCOMPETITIVE QUOTES COME IN FROM AETNA, CIGNA, CURATIVE AND THEN DECLINE TO QUOTES. YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE BLUE CROSS DECLINE BECAUSE THEY CANNOT QUOTE AGAINST TAC. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE SNAPSHOT OF THE MARKET NEXT YEAR WHEN WE REEVALUATE THAT LIST IS GOING TO GROW. THE MARKET IS RAPIDLY CHANGING. WHEN IT COMES TO BENEFITS. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT CARRIERS GETTING IN THE MARKET. I MEAN YOU CAN SEE SANTA GRAVY. THERE'S EVEN A COMPANY CALLED SIDECAR OUT THERE NOW. SO IT'S IT'S RAPIDLY CHANGING. I THINK IT NEEDS TO CHANGE SOMEWHAT TO BRING PRICES DOWN. BASICALLY, THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE REPORT. AND I HAVE A LOT OF COUNTIES THAT I HAVE REFERENCES FOR FOR THIS PLAN. SO IF WE MOVE FROM TAC TO UNITEDHEALTHCARE AND NONSTOP, THE COUNTY WILL SAVE ABOUT $804,000 ON MEDICAL INSURANCE. THAT'S A BIG CHUNK OF CHANGE WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET. THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT EMPLOYEES WILL SEE. IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IN THE GREEN, AN EMPLOYEE WILL HAVE A ZERO DEDUCTIBLE, ZERO OUT OF POCKET, AND EVERYTHING THEY DO WILL BE COVERED WITH NONSTOP. SO THE [00:10:02] SIMPLEST WAY TO EXPLAIN THIS IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR UNITED HEALTH CARE CARD, JUST LIKE YOU HAVE YOUR BLUE CROSS CARD NOW. SO WHEN YOU GO INTO THE DOCTOR NOW, YOU PULL OUT YOUR BLUE CROSS CARD AND YOU PULL OUT YOUR PAYMENT METHOD, WHETHER IT'S A VISA CARD OR HOWEVER YOU DO IT. SO WITH THIS PROGRAM, I'M SHOWING YOU YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM YOUR UNITED CARD, BUT I'M ALSO GOING TO GIVE YOU A VISA CARD THAT IS LOADED WITH YOUR OUT OF POCKET MAX ON IT. SO IF YOU'RE AN EMPLOYEE AND YOU GO INTO THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE, INSTEAD OF PAYING A $25 COPAY, YOU PAY NOTHING BECAUSE THE CARD IS LOADED WITH YOUR OUT OF POCKET ON IT. SO YOU GO IN AND THEY SAY YOU OWE 100 BUCKS. YOU PULL OUT THAT VISA CARD THAT WE GIVE YOU. YOU PAY YOUR OFFICE VISIT 100 BUCKS, YOU GO PICK UP YOUR PRESCRIPTIONS. AND SOME OF US HERE HAVE SOME HIGH DOLLAR PRESCRIPTIONS THAT WE'RE TAKING, AND IT COSTS $300. YOU PULL OUT YOUR NONSTOP CARD AND PAY FOR YOUR SCRIPTS ONCE THAT CARD IS EMPTY. ONCE THERE IS A ZERO BALANCE ON THAT CARD, YOU'VE SPENT EVERY BIT OF IT ON THAT CARD. YOU'RE COVERED AT 100% BY UNITED AT THAT POINT. SO AN EMPLOYEE HAS A TRUE ZERO OUT OF POCKET, SO THEY DON'T HAVE A DEDUCTIBLE TO MEET. THEY DON'T HAVE OUT-OF-POCKET TO MEET. THEY DON'T HAVE DEDUCTIBLES TO MEET ON THEIR SCRIPTS. IT IS ALL COVERED WITH THAT CARD. SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH A MEDICALLY CODED PHARMACY CODED GIFT CARD THAT IS LOADED WITH THEIR OUT OF POCKET. SO ALSO THE FAMILY IS NOT JUST THE INDIVIDUAL, IT'S THE FAMILY AS WELL. SO I'M A FAMILY OF FIVE AND I SURE COULD HAVE USED THIS CARD LAST FRIDAY BECAUSE MY SON JUST HAD LABRUM SURGERY. HE PLAYS BASEBALL AND HE JUST TORE HIS LABRUM. THAT COST ME 3700 OUT OF MY POCKET. IF I WAS ON YOUR PLAN, I WOULD USE THAT VISA CARD AND I WOULD HAVE PAID FOR THAT $3,700 VISIT, AND HE WOULDN'T HAVE COST ME ANYTHING OUT OF MY POCKET. IT'S A UNITED'S CHOICE PLUS NETWORK, THEIR NATIONAL, I BELIEVE JUST BASED ON OPTUM RX, THE COVERAGE IS GOING TO BE BETTER THAN YOUR TAC PLAN WITH NAVITUS. YES, SO THEY HAVE A LOT MORE COVERAGE WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR PHARMACY NETWORK. THE PLAN OVERALL, IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. I MEAN, YOU HAVE A ZERO DEDUCTIBLE ZERO OUT OF POCKET. I MEAN, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU SEEN THAT? I'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS 18 YEARS. AND THESE JUST STARTED COMING. WE STARTED WRITING THESE PROBABLY ABOUT 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO. WE RENEW A LOT OF COUNTIES WITH THEM. THEY LOVE IT. AS SOON AS I WALK INTO A COUNTY AT RENEWAL, THEY'RE LIKE, DON'T TAKE MY NONSTOP CARD FROM ME. THAT'S THE FIRST THING WHEN I WALK IN THE DOOR, DON'T TAKE MY NONSTOP. I SAID, WE'RE NOT TAKING THE NONSTOP. WE JUST WANT TO KEEP IT AND IMPROVE IT. SO IF YOU CAN GO TO THE DOCTOR, THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT AND CONSIDER. AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS A LOT. I WON'T SPEND AS MUCH TIME ON THE OTHER THINGS, BUT I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK OUTSIDE, I JUST WENT BY THE SHELL. I MEAN THE STATION HERE AND GOT A WATER ON THE WAY HERE. DIESEL IS LIKE 539 A GALLON. FUEL IS 360. THINK ABOUT THAT. SO IF WE'RE HERE AN EMPLOYEE AND THE FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO STOP IS TAKING OUR SCRIPTS, WE GOT TO GET TO WORK, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO EAT. THE COST OF EVERYTHING IS ELEVATED SO HIGH. THIS ALLOWS EMPLOYEES TO GET BACK ON THEIR SCRIPTS. THIS ALLOWS THEM TO GET SOME OF THOSE SURGERIES THEY CAN'T AFFORD BECAUSE THEY'RE ON A STRICT TIGHT BUDGET. I READ 75% OF AMERICA HAS ABOUT 1500 IN SAVINGS. THAT'S IT. YOU FIGURE THAT UP AND YOU GET TO HAVE A $750 DEDUCTIBLE OR $3,000 OUT OF YOUR POCKET. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT. THIS ALLOWS EMPLOYEES TO GET THOSE SERVICES THEY NEED. IF THEY HAVE A KNEE ISSUE THAT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO GET FIXED, AND NOW IT'S CAUSING THEIR BACK TO HURT. THIS ALLOWS THEM TO GO GET THAT KNEE SURGERY. IT'S A REALLY GREAT PROGRAM. I WAS JUST IN SOMERVELL COUNTY LAST WEEK, AND THE COMMISSIONER THERE SAID HE CALLED ERATH COUNTY COMMISSIONER, AND HE SAYS, WELL, TELL ME TELL ME THE BAD ABOUT THIS NONSTOP. TELL ME WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT. HE SAID NOTHING. HE SAID, NO, I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, I MEAN, HE SAID, THIS IS THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD. HE SAID, WELL, FINE, IF YOU GOT SLICED BREAD, PUNCH HOLES IN IT FOR ME. HE SAID, I CAN'T. HE SAID, THERE'S NOTHING THERE THAT, THAT, THAT YOU CAN PUNCH HOLES IN IF WE DO THIS AND WE'LL EDUCATE AND WE'LL SIT DOWN WITH ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING IS ONLINE ENROLLMENT. RIGHT NOW WE'RE PAPER. ALL THE TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE HERE. WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT INTO THE ENROLLMENT SIDE OF IT AND GIVE THAT TO THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO HAVE ACCESS TO ONLINE ENROLLMENT, HELP OUT THE TREASURER'S OFFICE TREMENDOUSLY, AND IT'LL ALL BE UNDER ONE PLATFORM. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE NONSTOP CARD, WE'RE ENROLLING RIGHT NOW IN ROBERTSON COUNTY, THIS IS THEIR, I WANT TO SAY, THIRD, THIRD YEAR RENEWAL WITH NONSTOP. SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE CARRIER, UNITED IS A GLOBAL COMPANY. I [00:15:02] MEAN, SO IF YOU GO TO. WE HAVE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OF AMERICA, SO YOU KNOW HOW BIG THAT IS. THEY'RE ALL OVER AMERICA. THEY USE UNITED'S NETWORK. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NETWORK UTILIZATION OR ACCESS TO CARE. SO IF WE TRAVEL FOR THE HOLIDAYS, YOU KNOW THEY'RE COMING UP. WE GO TO COLORADO TO VISIT OUR KINFOLK OR WYOMING OR WHEREVER THEY LIVE. YOU'LL HAVE SOMEONE IN THAT WHERE YOU CAN SEE UP THERE, AND YOU CAN USE YOUR NONSTOP CARD TO PAY FOR THAT VISIT. IT'S AN EXCELLENT PROGRAM THAT WE FIND THAT EACH AND EVERY TIME WE PUT IT IN, EVERYBODY'S LIKE, THIS IS THE BEST INSURANCE I'VE EVER HAD. AND IT IS. I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW YOUR OUT OF POCKETS WORK AND THE COST OF CARE THESE DAYS ARE JUST CONSTANTLY GOING UP AND TO SAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY. AND I'LL GET TO THE POINT HERE IN A MINUTE, DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF THE PRESENTATION, WHEN IT LOOKS LIKE FOR EMPLOYEES, WHEN IT COSTS THEM TO HAVE A ZERO DEDUCTIBLE ZERO OUT OF POCKET, YOU WOULD THINK IF WE'RE GIVING SOMEONE A ZERO DEDUCTIBLE ZERO OUT OF POCKET, SOMEONE'S ABOUT TO GET HAMMERED, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT THE CASE. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, WE DO HAVE SOME. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. WE HAVE ONE OF THE LARGEST BODIES OF PERSONNEL IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO THEY SUBMITTED SOME QUESTIONS TO US. I'D LIKE TO GIVE THESE TO YOU. OKAY. THE COMMISSIONER. SO SEEING THIS, OUR FOCUS PROBABLY IS GOING TO BE AROUND. I HEARD YOU SAY IN NETWORK IS THERE OUT OF NETWORK COVERAGE. HAS THE NETWORK OF DOCTORS REDUCED WHAT HAPPENS IN CATASTROPHIC ILLNESS SITUATIONS WHEN SOMEBODY HAS, SAY, LIKE CANCER AND THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC DOCTOR THAT'S TREATING THEM. SO IF YOU WANT TO SEE THOSE, I'LL HAND THESE OUT TO ALL. I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THAT THESE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE YOU HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO REVIEW THAT. WE DON'T GO THROUGH THIS, THESE LIST OF QUESTIONS IN COURT TODAY THAT YOU GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM WITH JOAN OFFICE AND THEN BE ABLE TO GIVE ANSWERS BACK TO THESE QUESTIONS OUTSIDE OF IF YOU WANT TO HIT SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE ADDRESSED. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO LINE BY LINE, RIGHT? I WAS I WAS READING IT AND I WAS FORMULATING RESPONSES HERE. SO THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE IN THE CURRENT EMPLOYEE HEALTH PLAN AND THE PROPOSED, I MEAN, WE I KIND OF HIT THAT JUST A SECOND AGO. ZERO DEDUCTIBLE, ZERO OUT OF POCKET TAC DID INCREASE A 4%. THEY DID PROPOSE A 4% INCREASE ON ON BENEFITS. SO THE QUESTION CAME UP TO THAT POINT IS, DO WE AS A COUNTY EAT THE 4%, OR DO WE PASS THAT ON TO THE EMPLOYEES? WHEN WE FACTORED ALL OF OUR STUFF IN, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, WE KEPT EMPLOYEES THE SAME PRICE AND THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO EAT THAT 4%. SO WITH WITH THE PLAN HERE, IT LOWERS THE PRICE AND IT KEEPS US DEFINITELY SAVING MONEY. THE DIFFERENCE. SO YEAH, THE PROPOSED PLAN, THE ADVANTAGE OF IT AGAIN, IS A ZERO DEDUCTIBLE OUT OF POCKET COST TO EMPLOYEES. THEY JUST SAVE $3,000 OUT OF THEIR POCKET ON MEDICAL EXPENSES PERIOD. I MEAN THAT'S COST EMPLOYEES. THAT SAVES THEIR INDIVIDUAL AND FAMILY. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE FAMILY, OUT-OF-POCKET IS NINE GRAND. WHAT I SAY FAMILY IS $9,000 OUT OF POCKET WHEN IT COMES TO THE NONSTOP CARD. I THINK THE BIGGER FOCUS, HEARING EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING WOULD BE THE PROVIDER AND NETWORK CONTINUITY OF CARE SECTION. AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME EMPLOYEES THAT ARE OVER 65 THAT ACTUALLY HAVE DEPENDENT COVERAGE. SO THERE WAS A QUESTION ON LIKE BEING BEING FORCED INTO MEDICARE, MEDICAID, STILL HAVING COVERAGE FOR FAMILY MEMBERS. THAT WAS A QUESTION. SO THOSE SECTIONS THERE, AS LONG AS YOU'RE AN ACTIVE EMPLOYEE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON THE ACTIVE EMPLOYEE INSURANCE. NONE OF THE OTHER MEDICARE KICKS IN UNTIL THE POINT THAT YOU RETIRE. OKAY, SO NOTHING HAS CHANGED WITH THAT. UNITEDHEALTHCARE IS A NATIONAL COVERAGE COMPANY, JUST LIKE BLUE CROSS. SO THERE'S NOTHING LIKE SOME PLANS FORCE PEOPLE TO GO ON. NO. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING. YOU CAN'T DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. AND SO THEN UNDER THE PROVIDER NETWORK, I THINK THERE WAS A HIGH FOCUS ON QUESTIONS ON THAT. LIKE, DO THEY HAVE TO GO IN NETWORK NOW OR DO THEY ARE THEY ALLOWED CHOICES ON PLANS? SO YOU CAN GO OUT OF NETWORK, BUT YOU CANNOT USE MY NONSTOP CARD IF YOU GO OUT OF NETWORK. OKAY, SO EVERYTHING OUT OF NETWORK IS ON THEM, SAME AS IT IS TODAY. EVERYTHING OUT OF NETWORK NOW ON YOUR CURRENT PLAN COST MORE. YOU ALWAYS SAVE MONEY IN NETWORK. SO THERE'S NO COVERAGE OUT OF NETWORK. RIGHT NOW. THERE IS COVERAGE, BUT IT COSTS YOU MORE. BUT THE DEDUCTIBLE ON OUT OF NETWORK IS I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT YOUR INDIVIDUAL 750, YOUR DEDUCTIBLE IS PROBABLY TWO [00:20:03] GRAND AND THEN YOU'RE OUT OF POCKET ON OUT-OF-NETWORK IS UNLIMITED ON YOUR CURRENT PLAN. SO GOOD. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF COVERAGE, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LESS. AND SOMETHING I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, YOU ALL YOU, I MEAN, I DON'T LOVE MY DOCTOR ENOUGH TO PAY WHATEVER THAT IS, 4 OR $5000 OUT OF MY POCKET TO SEE HIM. NOW, IF I'M GOING THROUGH TREATMENT LIKE THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT HERE. I MEAN, IF WE'RE MD ANDERSON, YOU CAN CONTINUE MD ANDERSON. SO WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT SKIMMING, SKIMMING DOWN YOUR NETWORK. WE'RE NOT PUTTING YOU IN AN HMO PLAN WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO SEE SOMEBODY FIRST AND GET REFERRED TO A SPECIALIST. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. HERE'S WHAT THE WHOLE GOAL IN THIS WAS TO SAVE MONEY AND IMPROVE INSURANCE. WE DID BOTH BECAUSE AND THE LARGE NATIONAL NETWORK IS THEIR PPO CHOICE PLUS NETWORK. SO AND I CAN AGAIN. YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU'LL ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT YES, I JUST DIDN'T I AGREE. I MEAN, AND I'LL ADDRESS ALL THESE ONE BY ONE LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM. YOU DON'T HAVE TO. I THINK NOW SEEING THIS, THE NETWORK WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BIG PUSH THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO FIND OUT ABOUT. AND THEN YOU'VE COVERED COSTS. YOU'VE. AND I CAN GET TO THE COST REAL QUICK. I CAN SKIP TO THAT PAGE. I MEAN, THE WHOLE GOAL WAS JUST CONTINUE, PLEASE, WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. AND I THINK YOU WILL ANSWER MOST OF THE QUESTIONS. OKAY. HAVE. GREAT. SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK MOVING ON. SO I KIND OF HIT THE I MEAN THE MEDICAL THERE. NOW WE'RE ON DENTAL AND VISION. WE WENT TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT CARRIERS ON THESE MARKETS. THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT ANCILLARY CARRIERS OUT THERE CURRENTLY. YOU HAVE TACK AND IT WENT UP ABOUT 4%. WE'RE USING NONSTOP ON THIS AND MY RECOMMENDATION ON THAT AND IT ADDED ORTHO COVERAGE. THERE'S A LOT OF EMPLOYEES OUT HERE THAT DIDN'T HAVE ORTHO FOR THEIR KIDDOS. AND WE'RE ADDING THAT ORTHO COVERAGE IN FOR THEIR KIDS. THEY CAN GET BRACES. THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION ON THAT. THE VISION PLAN. YOU'RE BLUE EQUITABLE CAME IN AND ADDED A VSP CHOICE NETWORK. SO TO IMPROVE THE NETWORK IS ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION. AND I'M GOING TO GET TO THE COST OF ALL THIS STUFF A LITTLE LATER ON. I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF KIND OF WHAT WE WENT AND WHAT WE'RE THINKING. HERE'S THE WHOLE CARRIER GRID. I MEAN, THIS IS NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT THIS IS JUST WHAT WOULD FIT ON MY SHEET OF WHERE WE WENT. SUNLIFE WAS THE ONE THAT IS WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION IS. YOU CAN SEE THEY CALLED IT ALL THE WAY ACROSS. BUT THE VISION I'M GOING TO ASK, I MEAN, I THINK THE EQUITABLE IS OUR BEST SOLUTION FOR THAT. CIGNA, GUARDIAN, ALL THESE CARRIERS AT THE BOTTOM DECLINED. SO JUST A QUICK BRIEF SUMMARY. I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO TAKE LONGER THAN ANYONE PARTICIPATED. BUT YOUR BASE LIFE COVERAGE, YOU HAVE 10,000 EMPLOYER PAID. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT WITH A WITH SUNLIFE. AND IT'S GOING TO SAVE THE COUNTY ABOUT 20% ON THAT SPEND, WHICH IS A GREAT BENEFIT. $10,000 IS A EMPLOYER PAID BENEFIT. YOU HAVE VOLUNTARY BENEFITS. YOU GUARANTEE ISSUE UP TO 150 GRAND. ONE THING GOOD ABOUT THIS IS IT'S A TRUE OPEN ENROLLMENT. SO IF ANYBODY WAIVED THE GUARANTEE ISSUE BEFORE, THIS LETS THEM GET BACK INTO IT AND NOT HAVE TO FILL OUT HEALTH QUESTIONS, WE GRANDFATHER OVER THE ONES THAT HAVE OVER 150 000. SO NO ONE IS GETTING A REDUCED BENEFIT WHEN WE DO THAT. SHORT TERM DISABILITY IS ALSO AVAILABLE. AND AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT SUNLIFE ON THAT. PRETTY MUCH THE REASON I'M RECOMMENDING ALL THESE IS BECAUSE IT'S SAVING MONEY ON THE OPTIONS. LONG TERM DISABILITY IS A NEW OFFERING THAT WE'RE GOING TO OFFER VOLUNTARY SO EMPLOYEES CAN PICK IT UP. SO CURRENTLY YOU HAVE SHORT TERM AS A VOLUNTARY WE'RE GOING TO DO LONG TERM. SO THAT KIND OF TIES IN TO SHORT TERM. LONG TERM. IT'S JUST A BENEFIT THAT DEFINITELY SOMETHING YOU NEED TO OFFER AS A VOLUNTARY BASIS. THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING FOR IT. THIS IS PRETTY MUCH INSURANCE ON YOUR ON YOUR PAYCHECK. SO IF SOMEONE GOES OUT, IT DOES GIVE THEM THAT COVERAGE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TODAY. AND ALL THESE LINES EXCEPT FOR BASE LIFE, HAVE A THREE YEAR RATE GUARANTEE ON YOUR VOLUNTARY LIFE, SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM. ACCIDENT. IT SHOWS THE PREMIUM HERE. AGAIN, WE REVIEWED ALL THIS EARLIER AND THE COST OF IT SO MUCH BETTER WITH SUNLIFE ACCIDENT COVERAGE, CRITICAL ILLNESS, HOSPITAL INDEMNITY AND CANCER INDEMNITY IS AN OPTION. THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE ON OUR ENROLLMENT PLATFORM, SO THEY WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FIGURING ANYTHING. IT'LL JUST SHOW THEIR AGE AND HAVE THE RATES ON THERE. AND IT SHOWS THE BENEFITS. KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS HERE, WHAT THEY GET FOR THE, THE, THE POLICY HERE. AGAIN, SUNLIFE THREE YEAR RATE GUARANTEE ON ALL FOUR OF THOSE LINES OF COVERAGE. THE MAIN THING THAT I'M SURE WE WANT TO HIT ON IS THIS. HERE'S YOUR MEDICAL AND DENTAL SPEND. CURRENTLY, YOU CAN SEE WHAT EMPLOYEES ARE PAYING $75.08 CURRENT. THE GREEN IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO. WE JUST ROUNDED IT UP JUST TO MAKE IT EASY ON ALL OF US. WE KNOW EXACTLY EASY [00:25:05] MATH. SO WE'RE GIVING EMPLOYEES A ZERO DEDUCTIBLE ZERO OUT OF POCKET WITH A NATIONAL NETWORK FOR $0.92 MORE THAN THEY'RE PAYING TODAY. THAT'S MONTHLY. IT'S NOT. SO THAT'S A MONTHLY INCREASE. EMPLOYEE SPOUSE DOLLAR 88 MORE. THEY HAVE A ZERO DEDUCTIBLE ZERO OUT OF POCKET EMPLOYEE CHILDREN $0.52. EMPLOYEE CHILD DOLLAR EIGHT FAMILY $0.56 ZERO DEDUCTIBLE ZERO OUT OF POCKET. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DENTAL, WE PICKED THAT UP AND THE EMPLOYEE FAMILY IS ADDING THE ORTHO COVERAGE SO THEY CAN GET BRACES FOR THEIR KIDDOS $3.32. SO WE'RE GIVING THE FAMILIES ZERO DEDUCTIBLE, ZERO OUT OF POCKET FOR ABOUT FOUR BUCKS MORE THAN THEY'RE PAYING TODAY. HUGE, HUGE EMPLOYEE CHILD, DOLLAR EIGHT. SO WE'RE TALKING KIDDOS THAT CAN GET PROCEDURES. WE HAVE THOSE SINGLE PARENTS OUT THERE THAT HAVE ONE KID. IT'S A BIG, BIG BENEFIT. AND THIS IS JUST ROUNDED UP. IF WE WENT TO RENEW A TACK, THEY GAVE US A 4% INCREASE, RIGHT? SO WHAT DO WE DO? DO WE DO WE SPLIT THAT IN THE COUNTY, PICK UP THE TWO, PASS THE ON OVER TO THE EMPLOYEES. WHAT DO WE DO? WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. WITH THIS SOLUTION. WE HAVE A ZERO DEDUCTIBLE ZERO OUT-OF-POCKET. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS KIND OF SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. THEY'RE ON THE COST AND THE BENEFITS. THE LAST THING THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT UNIVERSAL LIFE COVERAGE IS TEXAS LIFE. IT'S A TEXAS BASED COMPANY. IT'S A WHOLE LIFE POLICY. I'M A BIG FAN OF THIS POLICY BECAUSE YOU LOCK IN YOUR AGE TODAY FOR A BENEFIT, AND I CALL IT JUST A BARREL POLICY, IF YOU WILL, WITH MAXIMUM ISSUE UP TO 150 GRAND. BUT IF YOU JUST NEED 25,030, 40 BY THE TIME I PASS AWAY, IT MAY COST 50,000 FOR A FUNERAL. WHO KNOWS? BUT YOU CAN BUY THAT, LOCK IT IN, YOU LEAVE. PREMIUM DOESN'T CHANGE. YOU ANSWER THREE QUESTIONS. ARE YOU CURRENTLY A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE? HAVE YOU MISSED FIVE CONSECUTIVE DAYS DUE TO ILLNESS, OR ARE YOU CURRENTLY UNDERGOING ANY CANCER TREATMENT? THOSE ARE THE THREE QUESTIONS YOU ASK AND YOU'RE GUARANTEED ISSUE. AWESOME BENEFIT THAT IS PORTABLE AND THE RATE DOES NOT CHANGE. THAT'S WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THIS POLICY IN A VOLUNTARY PRODUCT. ONE IS THERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT RUN OUT OF THEIR COVERAGE AT 121 YEARS OLD? I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM YET, BUT I MEAN EVERYTHING. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT THAT WAS A BIG ISSUE. IT IS. I JUST LIKE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. THAT WAY THEY CAN SHOW YOU 121. SO I DO NOT WANT TO LIVE THAT LONG, SO I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. SO THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OVERVIEW MEDICAL AGAIN, UHC NONSTOP 804,000 SAVINGS BECAUSE EMPLOYEE ZERO DEDUCTIBLE ZERO OUT OF POCKET NATIONAL NETWORK DENTAL ALSO WITH NONSTOP I DIDN'T REALLY HIT ON THIS A WHOLE LOT. THERE'S A LOT MORE. I MEAN, THERE'S, YOU DO HAVE SOME COVERAGE ON YOUR CARD FOR THIS DENTAL PLAN. SO ABOUT $500 FOR THE INDIVIDUAL AND $1,000 FOR THE FAMILY YOU CAN SPEND ON DENTAL, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS AN ADD ON IN THE ORTHO EQUITABLE DIVISION. AGAIN, IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER WITH VSP NETWORK. AND WE'RE TALKING PENNIES ON DIFFERENT PREMIUM BASED LIFE. SUN LIFE SAVES ABOUT 20%, KEEPS THE BENEFIT THERE, AND A TEN GRAND LONG TERM DISABILITY IS AN OFFERING THAT WE'RE GOING TO OFFER. WE DON'T HAVE TODAY. AND VOLUNTARY SUNLIFE CRITICAL ILLNESS HOSPITAL AND ALL THAT IN TEXAS REPUBLIC LIFE. SO SAVINGS AND THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY THERE. OVERALL, I MEAN, I CAN'T BE HAPPIER WITH THE WAY IT TURNED OUT WHEN IT COMES TO PREMIUM BENEFITS, THE WHOLE PACKAGE IS PHENOMENAL IN MY OPINION. YOU'LL SEE THE ANNUAL MEDICAL INSURANCE SAVINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE, IF YOU APPROVE IT, 804,000 SAVINGS WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED, CORRECT. DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW YOU HAD SOME CONCERNS. DID YOU HAVE ANY? NO. MY MAIN THING WAS I FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS RATHER THAN JUST VOTING ON IT WITHOUT I MEAN, AND WELL, WE WE'VE WE'VE BEEN VETTING THIS THROUGH THE BUDGET COMMITTEE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MEETINGS WE'VE HAD. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL EMPLOYEES, TOO. SO WE WEREN'T GOING TO SUGGEST ANYTHING THAT WAS GOING TO HURT ANY EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, WE OUR EMPLOYEES ARE WHAT MAKES THE COUNTY RUN. AND ABSOLUTELY WE'RE GOING TO DO TO, TO, TO CHANGE COVERAGE WHERE THEY WOULD WOULD SEE LESS COVERAGE, LOSE DOCTORS BECAUSE AGAIN, WE ALL OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR KIDS GO TO DOCTORS. AND SO, AND THAT [00:30:06] WAS THE GOAL LOOKING INTO THIS, RIGHT? HOW CAN WE KEEP THE COVERAGE AND THE BENEFITS WHERE THEY'RE AT NOW, BUT POSSIBLY SAFE? RIGHT. AND I WANT TO THANK ALAN AND MIKE FOR BRINGING YOU TO OUR ATTENTION, BECAUSE I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO GET AS GOOD, IF NOT BETTER, WITH A LOT MORE SUPPLEMENTAL OPTIONS FOR EMPLOYEES AND SAVE $804,000, RIGHT? IT'S HUGE. AND SO THAT, THAT THAT SHOULD MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. AND THE THINGS THAT HE TALKED ABOUT, ERATH COUNTY, THAT'S WHERE ALL THIS STARTED AT A LITTLE COCKTAIL PARTY AT ONE OF OUR ANNUAL CONFERENCES, WE HAD A ROTH AUDITOR. SO EVERYTHING STARTS. WHERE EVERYTHING THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING STARTS. AND HE MIGHT HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF DRINKS AND HE STARTED TELLING US ABOUT THIS INSURANCE. IT'S ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, I THINK. AND WE KEPT LOOKING AT HIM AND WE JUST LIKE, MAN, HE'S HAD TOO MUCH TO DRINK. BUT WE'VE WE'VE STAYED WITH IT. WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO HIM EVERY YEAR. WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO BRIAN. THERE'S NO HOLES TO PUNCH HERE. WE'VE WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT. NONE OF THE COUNTIES THAT IF YOU IF YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND YOU WANT TO TALK TO THE OTHER COUNTIES, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO POKE HOLES IN THIS. TRUST ME, IF YOU BROUGHT IT TO US, WE'RE WELL AWARE THAT YOU DID YOUR HOMEWORK AND MADE SURE THAT IT'S TRUSTED. AND I'M PRETTY SURE BETWEEN YOU AND MIKE, YOU ALL POKE HOLES IN ALMOST EVERYTHING TO MAKE SURE IT IS ACTUALLY A COST SAVING. THAT WAS A SHOT AT DENNY, THAT IS. BUT THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S. BEEN A BIG PART OF THIS BECAUSE WITHOUT HER, WE COULDN'T HAVE. WELL, AND TO THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO SAVE JOAN A TON OF TIME IN HER OFFICE BY NOT HAVING TO DO THE PAPERWORK AND SIGN EVERY EMPLOYEE UP AND GO OVER EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL PLAN WITH EVERY PERSON. THAT'S TRUE. EVERYTHING WE DO NOW IS ON PAPER. AND THEN MY STAFF IS RESPONSIBLE FOR GOING INTO AN ONLINE SYSTEM FOR THESE COMPANIES AND UPDATING EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE. AND THERE'S NOT JUST ONE SYSTEM, THERE'S 3 OR 4 THAT WE HAVE TO DO THAT WITH. SO GOING WITH THIS PLAN IS GOING TO STREAMLINE ALL OF THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE ONE BASE OPEN ENROLLMENT, ONLINE ENROLLMENT FOR ALL POLICIES AND ALL OF THE EXTRA BENEFITS THAT EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR FOR YEARS. THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR LONG TERM DISABILITY, SHORT TERM DISABILITY, DENTAL, DENTAL WITH ORTHODONTICS. WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO OFFER THAT THROUGH THE TECH PRODUCT. AND SO WE ARE OFFERING MANY MORE BENEFITS WITH THIS PLAN THAN WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO IN THE PAST. AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. I KNOW HEALTH INSURANCE IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY. AND SO ANYTIME YOU MAKE A CHANGE, WE GET NERVOUS AND THAT'S OKAY. BUT THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO HAVE YOU HERE TODAY TO KIND OF PUT SOME OF AND I WILL GO BACK AND I WILL REPLY TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE, AND I'LL SEND THAT TO YOU AND YOU CAN FORWARD IT OUT. CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION AVAILABLE FOR THE EMPLOYEES? ABSOLUTELY NOT. AND THEN I DO WANT TO THANK YOU. FACING THREE KIDS THAT NEED BRACES. I'M VERY GRATEFUL. ROBERT, WHO IS TO BLAME FOR THAT, YOU OR WHAT? DEFINITELY NOT ME. ALL RIGHT. OF COURSE, MY DNA IS IMPECCABLE. I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU. THANK JOAN. ALLEN, MIKE, ROBERT. THIS PAST WEEK WE ALL WENT UP TO AUSTIN FOR THE MOST PART, AND OUR CAR, I CALLED BOBBY AND I'M LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE AT ON THE BUDGET? HE'S LIKE, MAN, I THINK WE'VE DONE SOME GREAT THINGS WITHIN THIS BUDGET, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST THING HE GOES TO. AND EVERYONE KNOW MY MY AGE ALLOWS ME TO BE IGNORANT WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE THIS. AND SO ALL I UNDERSTOOD WAS $0. AND I'M LIKE, OH. AND I LEANED OVER TO BOBBY AND I'M LIKE, OH, BOBBY, I UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE TODAY. HE'S LIKE, MAN, THIS IS GREAT FOR THE EMPLOYEES. LIKE, WE REALLY DID A GOOD JOB. THIS IS A SAVINGS. NOW, FROM YOUR PRESENTATION, I GET A CHANCE TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND I'M ALSO HAPPY WITH WHAT THIS ALLOWS ME TO DO FOR, FOR MY SON. AND I'M PRETTY SURE THE COMMISSIONER SAME WAY WITH, WITH OUR FAMILIES AS WELL AS THE EMPLOYEE FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO PUT THEM IN THE BEST PREDICAMENT. I KNOW THAT THIS COURT AND LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTY CARE ABOUT. HOW COULD WE PROVIDE MORE AND ALSO GIVE SAVINGS TO EMPLOYEES WHEREVER WE CAN. SO BEING ABLE TO DO THIS, I THINK, TACKLES WHAT THE LEADERSHIP STANDS FOR. SO THANK YOU. AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU ALL HAD THAT COCKTAIL. I WANT TO SAY. YOU KNOW, I WENT THROUGH A A BOUT WITH CANCER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD WAS THEY WERE GOOD. THEY DIDN'T QUESTION ANYTHING. BUT THE ONE THING THAT BOTHERED ME ABOUT THEM WAS THE VERY PUBLIC [00:35:04] BATTLE THEY HAD WITH THE DOCTORS AND HOSPITALS, AND THEY SCARED A LOT OF PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO CONSIDER IN NETWORK, A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE. AND I RESENTED THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE USING THOSE PEOPLE AS LEVERAGE WITH THE PEOPLE THEY WERE NEGOTIATING WITH. AND SO IF NOTHING ELSE, I WILL VOTE TO REPLACE THEM SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DID THAT. RIGHT NOW, CVS DOES NOT TAKE BLUE CROSS. RIGHT? SO THAT'S ONE OF YOUR TOP TWO. I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY, PRETTY POOR JUDGMENT. AND THEN JUST, I MEAN, I CAN GET INTO ALL KINDS OF DETAILS ON INSURANCE AND MEDICAL AND, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO, I DON'T HAVE TO TODAY. I'M ALREADY TAKEN ENOUGH OF YOUR TIME AND I APPRECIATE IT. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HOW MANY CARDS ARE THERE? I'M SORRY. HOW MANY CARDS? LIKE MY DAUGHTER'S IN COLLEGE? DOES SHE GET A CARD? YOU'LL GET ONE. OR YOU CAN PAY FOR IT. I MEAN, YOU'LL GET TWO CARDS AS A FAMILY. SO SHE'S IN COLLEGE. YOU CAN GIVE HER A CARD IF YOU TRUST HER THAT WELL. MY SON'S NOT GETTING A CARD, BUT YOU'LL BE SURPRISED WHERE THEY SEE THE MOST OF THESE CARDS USED AT IS CHICK FIL A. I GUESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU CANNOT USE THEM AT CHICK FIL A OR AMAZON. IT KIND OF DENIES THAT CHARGE, BUT. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT IT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SIR, FOR BEING HERE. SAFE TRAVELS. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH APPROVING THIS TODAY? IF YOU ALL WANT TO TAKE THE VOTE, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO I THINK THE INFORMATION'S OUT THERE. QUESTIONS CAN BE ASKED, BUT IT'S THE COURT'S YOU KNOW, HE CAN GET GET BACK AND ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS. BUT COMMISSIONER, YOU ARE GOOD WITH APPROVING THIS TODAY. COMMISSIONER SMITH. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO APPROVE NUMBER 49. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED? 49 IS APPROVED AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. AND, JONES, I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO EMAIL EVERYBODY OUT WHEN IT'S TIME TO FOR THE ENROLLMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT TO THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND HELP SIGN EVERYBODY UP. SO IT'LL BE A FAIRLY SEAMLESS PROCESS. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GET BACK TO. THIS IS GOING TO BE [COUNTY JUDGE] ITEM NUMBER 30. MOTION. THIS IS THE ONE WE HAVE TO READ. IT'S GOT TO BE CERTAIN WORDING FROM THE STATE. ALL RIGHT. HERE. OH MAN. MOTION TO PROPOSE TO ADOPT. TAX RATE IS SET HEAR DATE I COMMISSIONER JONES THIS IS FUNNY MOVE THAT WALLER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT PROPOSED TO ADOPT A TOTAL TAX RATE OF 0.55846 $0.06 PER $100 VALUATION, THE SAME RATE BEING A COMBINATION OF RATES FOR THE WALLER COUNTY GENERAL FUND RATE OF 0.428905 PER HUNDRED DOLLAR VALUATION, AND THE FARM TO MARKET FLOOD CONTROL RATE OF 0.023116 AND TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND RATE OF 0.106445, AND TO SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE 2026 TAX RATE ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2026 AT 9 A.M. AT THE WALLER COUNTY COURTHOUSE IN HEMPSTEAD, TEXAS. SECOND. ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ON ITEM NUMBER 30. ANY DISCUSSION? AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SPECIAL MEETING ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 8TH AS WELL. RIGHT. HEARING NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR OF 30. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED. 30 IS APPROVED. LET'S SEE. LET'S TAKE UP 31, 32 AND 33. SECOND MOTION SECOND TO APPROVE 31 THROUGH 33. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THESE ARE JUST ONE IS TO PUBLISH THE KATY TIMES. THE OTHER ONE IS TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENTS SALARY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CONSTABLE'S AND SET THE SALARIES AND EXPENSES FOR OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS. AND THIS WAS ALL POSTED. IT'S ONLINE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO REVIEW IT. AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK THE BUDGET COMMITTEE FOR WORKING WITH THE CONSTABLE AND COMING UP WITH A VIABLE SOLUTION. I APPRECIATE THE CONSTABLE'S FOR WORKING WITH THE COURT AS WELL. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR COMING TO A MUTUAL BENEFIT AND AGREEMENT. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED MOTIONS ARE APPROVED. THAT WILL BRING US. CAN WE TAKE ALL OF THESE UP TOGETHER, ANGELA, OR DO WE NEED TO BREAK THEM OUT? AS FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, [SHERIFF] NO, WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE THEM ALL TOGETHER. ALL RIGHT. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR 34, 35, [00:40:04] 36 AND 37. SECOND. MOTION SECOND. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THESE? DO YOU NEED ME TO? I'M HAPPY TO IF YOU JUST WANT TO MAYBE HIT ON A COUPLE OF THEM. BRIEFLY, THE SHERIFF AND CONSTABLE FEES. WE DID WORK WITH THE CONSTABLE'S. WE ARE IN AGREEMENT ON THOSE. THERE ARE A FEW LOCAL FEES THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDED IN LIVESTOCK AND WRECKER FEES AS WELL. SO THAT'S BEEN DONE IN GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH THEIR TEAM. THE RATIFICATION YOU DID PREVIOUSLY APPROVE THE CELLEBRITE CERTIFICATION TRAINING. THEY CHANGED THE TEST DATE ON US, SO WE HAD TO KEEP PERSONNEL THERE ONE MORE DAY. IT'S A CRITICAL CERTIFICATION FOR EVIDENTIARY RULE IN A COURT OF LAW. SO WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT. THE IACP IS AN INVALUABLE ATTENDANCE FOR A CHIEF OR SHERIFF TO GO TO WITH EVERYTHING THEY PROVIDE, FROM POLICY STANDARDS TO YOU JUST NAME IT. THEY'RE A WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION. SO WE WOULD LIKE EITHER OUR CHIEF OR OUR SHERIFF TO ATTEND THAT. THEN THE OUT OF STATE TRAVEL FOR THE LIABILITY RISK. THAT'S OUR STANDARD TRAINING THAT WE TRY TO DO EVERY YEAR FOR COMMAND, FOR INTERNAL AFFAIRS TRAINING AND LIABILITY ISSUES. SO ALL PRETTY STANDARD STUFF ALL WITHIN OUR BUDGET THAT WE'VE WE'VE REQUESTED. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANGELA? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED. SHERIFF'S AGENDA IS [CHIEF OF STAFF] APPROVED. THAT WILL BRING US TO 38. MOTION. SECOND. MOTION SECOND. AND ALL THIS IS, IS, YOU KNOW, OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE CONTINUED WITH COMMISSIONER HAMBURGER WHILE HE'S OUT. AND SO I TALKED TO HIM ALMOST EVERY WEEK. BUT HE'S HE'S CURRENTLY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE LONG RANGE PLANNING COMMITTEE. AND IN HIS ABSENCE, I ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD MIND IF I FILL THAT SPOT UNTIL SUCH TIME, HE'S ABLE TO COME BACK AND HE. HE SAID HE WAS FINE WITH THAT. AND SO AS SOON AS HE COMES BACK, HE. HE'S PLUGGED BACK IN. BUT AS LONG AS HE'S NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS, I CAN FILL IN. AND THAT'S ALL THAT IS. SO ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. NONE OPPOSED. 38 IS [FIRE MARSHAL] APPROVED. I GUESS BEFORE WE HAVE THE MOTION, WE'LL HEAR THE UPDATE FROM OUR AWESOME FIRE MARSHAL. I DIDN'T GET ANY RAIN. OH, HOW DID WE HAVE A HURRICANE? TWO COUNTIES OVER AND WE AIN'T GOT A DROP YET, RIGHT? GLAD YOU'RE NOT IN POLK COUNTY. YEAH. COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BE THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN. WE OUR MAIN DECIDING FACTOR AS WE LOOK AT OUR KBHDY WHICH IS BASICALLY OUR DROUGHT INDEX. UNFORTUNATELY, I LOOKED ON THE MAP THIS MORNING, THE RAINFALL IN THE LAST 24 HOURS FOR WALLER COUNTY WAS 0.03. BARELY KIND OF ON THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY LINE RIGHT UP THERE IN THE NORTH EAST. SO THE RECENT RAINS DID NOT COME AS FAR NORTHWEST AS WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE LIKED. BUT PRAYERS FOR THOSE WHO ARE DEALING WITH THAT GOT 5 TO 10IN IN EAST TEXAS. SO YOU'RE LOW ON YOUR KBHDY IS FOR 93. YOUR HIGH IS 698, AND THEN THAT PUTS OUR AVERAGE AT 638. WHEN YOU GET BETWEEN 600 TO 800, THAT'S THE END OF THE DROUGHT INDEX. AND YOU'RE SEEING EXTREMELY DRY TEMPERATURES AND EXTREMELY DRY CONDITIONS. I HAD ESD POOL FIRES FOR THE LAST THREE WEEKS. I HAD 31 TOTAL GRASS FIRES IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS. YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS AND YOU HAVE KIND OF THE LOCATIONS, BUT JUST NORTH COUNTY, YOU HAD 12, CENTRAL COUNTY HAD 16, AND DOWN SOUTH YOU HAD THREE. SO IT IS GOING TO BE OUR OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DO CONSIDER THE COURT TO IMPLEMENT THE BURN BAN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HAVE A MOTION TO IMPLEMENT THE BURN BAN. SO MOVED A MOTION SECOND TO IMPLEMENT A BURN BAN. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. NOT OPPOSED. BURN BAN IS APPROVED. AND I GUESS WE'LL GET THAT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND WEBSITE. YES, SIR. I CAN HEAR YOUR HEARTS BREAKING ALL OVER THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW. I KNOW IT'S 5050. IT'S ONE OF THOSE 5050 DEALS. ALL RIGHT. THAT WILL ALSO I SEE MOTION. SO THIS IS BASICALLY AUTHORIZING OUR FIRE MARSHAL TO LIFT THE BURN BAN AND THE EVENT. WE GET SOME RAIN IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS BEFORE WE HAVE OUR NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT, WHICH IS LOOKING UNLIKELY AND ENOUGH RAIN TO GET US OUT OF THE DROUGHT INDEX. AND THIS IS [00:45:01] SOMETHING WE DO ON A ROUTINE BASIS. SO I'D SAY IT'S ALMOST NEVER WHERE ONE ONE RAINY NIGHT DOES NOT TAKE CARE OF THE CONDITIONS. NO, SIR. WE NEED QUITE A BIT MORE RAIN. NO, BECAUSE WHEN IT'S DEAD, IT'S STILL DEAD AFTER IT RAINS, RIGHT? SO OKAY. BUT IT JUST GIVES HIM THAT THAT AUTHORITY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. THANK YOU. IS APPROVED. THANK YOU. MARSHALL. ALL RIGHT. CAN TAKE UP 41 [GRANT MANAGER] THROUGH 43. MOTION A MOTION SECOND. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. SO NUMBER 41 IS SEEKING AUTHORIZATION FOR THE JUDGE TO EXECUTE A TERMINATION AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF BROOKSHIRE. THE REASON WHY WE ARE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE WE ARE UNABLE TO CONTINUE THE PATH FORWARD WITH REGARDS TO THE DETENTION FACILITY THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY PROPOSED IN OUR CDBG MITIGATION APP, BECAUSE THE PURCHASE OF THE NECESSARY LAND IS COST PROHIBITIVE. SO WE HAVE AN EXISTING INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, AND THIS IS JUST RESCINDING THAT AGREEMENT. AND JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, THERE WAS A I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 40 ACRES JUST NORTH OF BROOKSHIRE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING ONE OF THOSE GRANT PROJECTS, AND THE LAND WAS ALMOST BECAUSE THE GLO WORKS AT THE SPEED OF GOVERNMENT. AND SINCE WE STARTED, THE LAND HAS GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY. AND SO IT WAS JUST COST PROHIBITIVE. YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S THREE WELL, 2.5, MAYBE EVEN $2.7 MILLION MORE THAN WE HAD ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED. SO. ARE ALSO, I THINK THE COURT KNOW HOW MUCH WE LEAN ON ROBERT, THROUGHOUT LEGISLATION AND TALKING TO OUR STATE REPS AND LEADERSHIP. BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WHEN WE GO MEET WITH OUR DELEGATION THAT WE TALK ABOUT, WHEN WE LOOK AT A PROJECT, WE USUALLY LOOK AT A PROJECT A YEAR OR SO IN ADVANCE BEFORE EVEN SUBMITTING, OR WE HAVE A DEADLINE IN WHICH WE GOT TO SUBMIT A PROJECT. BY THEN, WHEN WE SUBMIT THAT PROJECT, IT TAKES US TWO YEARS OR SO BEFORE WE RECEIVE THE FUNDING, WHICH MEANS THAT IN EVERYTHING THAT WE LOOK AT, WE TRY TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ESCALATION, WHICH THEN FORCES US TO BE IN PREDICAMENTS WHERE YOU CAN'T FULFILL PROJECTS OR YOU LOOK AT COSTS. I THINK THIS IS KIND OF SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I THINK WE'VE DONE ABOUT 3 OR 4 PROJECTS WITH THE G, L, O AND NONE OF THEM HAS BEEN SMOOTH. LIKE I WILL SAY THAT PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT FAULT SHOULD NOT LIE PARTIALLY WITH THE GLO IN SOME INSTANCES, BUT A LOT OF THIS IS JUST FEDERAL REGULATIONS, UNFORTUNATELY, AS THEY ADMINISTER THE FEDERAL. IT'S IT'S HUD. SO IT'S A HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, ESPECIALLY FOR DISASTER RELATED INCIDENTS, THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST FEDERAL AGENCY FOR IT TO FALL UNDER, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY. SO A LOT OF THE PROHIBITIONS AND THE RESTRICTIONS ARE BECAUSE OF THESE FEDERAL RESTRICTIONS, BECAUSE TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF PUSHBACK OR FEEDBACK THAT'S NECESSARY BY THE G L, OH, THEY'LL INQUIRE WITH HUD. AND THAT OBVIOUSLY TAKES TIME. SO IT'S A GOOD PROJECT. IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. GLO TAKE TIME IN THEIR RESPONSE TO US SAYING THAT, HEY, WE'RE SEARCHING FOR ANSWERS. SO UNFORTUNATELY, BUREAUCRACY KILLED IT. SO YEAH. ALL RIGHT. NUMBER 42 IS A GRANT AWARD THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA COUNCIL. THIS GRANT WILL GO FOR EQUIPMENT FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS TO HOPEFULLY DETER ILLEGAL DUMPING AND HELP WITH PROSECUTION EFFORTS. OKAY. AND I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN THAT ONE A LITTLE BIT MORE JUST BECAUSE OF THE THE SURVEILLANCE TOPIC THAT'S BEEN FLOATING AROUND THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. SO, SO WHAT THIS IS, IS WE HAVE MULTIPLE CERTAIN PLACES. A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE DOWN A DIRT ROAD OR CERTAIN GATES OR DRIVEWAYS THAT CONSTANTLY PEOPLE ARE DUMPING, YOU KNOW, YARD DEBRIS, TRASH, ALL KINDS OF STUFF. AND SO UNLESS WE CAN HAVE A DEPUTY SIT OUT THERE AND MONITOR IT 24 OVER SEVEN WAITING FOR THAT. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD, WHAT, TWO BOATS THIS YEAR AND NONE OF THEM ARE WORTH DRIVING. SO I ALREADY ASKED. BUT THIS IS A WAY FOR US. IT'S BASICALLY IT'S A TRAIL CAM TO WHERE WE I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S GOT A LITTLE SIM CARD IN IT, THAT CARD IN IT, AND IT WILL BE PLACED THERE TO WHERE WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE TO, TO TRY AND STOP SOME OF THIS SERIAL DUMPING BECAUSE IT COST US TONS OF MONEY EVERY YEAR, TAXPAYER MONEY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DUMPING TRASH. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. ANYBODY GET THEM WRONG, WRONG [00:50:06] THOUGHT IN THEIR HEAD, SHERIFF. ALL RIGHT. 43 IS A GRANT THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE. THIS IS FOR BODY WORN CAMERAS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE GRANTS WHERE THERE'S A REQUIRED LOCAL MATCH ON THE LOCAL MATCH IS A LITTLE OVER 15,000. AND THE LINE ITEM WHERE IT WOULD COME FROM IS REFLECTED. PERFECT. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? NO THANK YOU, THANK YOU MA'AM. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE OR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. NOT OPPOSED. WE ARE APPROVED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I WILL TAKE 44 THROUGH 47. MOTION. SECOND. [PROCUREMENT DIRECTOR] MOTION AND SECOND. JAMIE. GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONERS. ITEM 44 IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR AWARD TO THE FOR THE PRAIRIE VIEW WATER PLANT. NUMBER TWO GENERATOR PROJECT TO THE LOW BIDDER. TEXAS MUNICIPAL AND INDUSTRIAL. THERE WERE A TOTAL OF THREE RESPONSES. THE PROJECT IS FEDERALLY FUNDED. WELL, A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE REIMBURSED 100%. IT'S A COMBINATION OF GRANT FUNDS AS WELL AS LOCAL FUNDS FROM CITY OF PRAIRIE VIEW ON THIS ONE. AND THIS PROJECT STARTED, WHAT, FOUR YEARS AGO, FOUR YEARS AGO TO GET A GENERATOR. WE GOT IT DONE. GOT IT DONE AT A COST OF THE GENERATOR HAS GONE UP TO CORRECT. IT'S ACTUALLY UNDER BUDGET. OH, IT IS UNDER BUDGET ANTICIPATED. OH THANK GOD IT'S GOING TO SURPRISING. I, I HONESTLY THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE. THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF PARTNERING WITH OUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES. AND IT'S GOING TO COST THE COUNTY NOTHING. SO IT WAS CLOSE TO BUDGET BUT STILL UNDER. YEAH. SLIGHTLY UNDER. YEP. ITEM 45 IS A RECOMMENDATION TO AWARD THE RECONSTRUCTION OF ADAMS FLAT ROAD TO THE LOW BIDDER, DURWOOD GREEN CONSTRUCTION. THERE WERE A TOTAL OF SEVEN BIDDERS FOR THIS PROJECT, AND IT WAS SLIGHTLY UNDER BUDGET. ITEM 46 IS RECOMMENDATION TO PURCHASE A VEHICLE FROM ENTERPRISE. THIS WAS A LEASED VEHICLE. THE LEASE WAS UP IN END OF MARCH FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, SO IT WAS A REQUEST TO PURCHASE THE RESIDUAL VALUE OF THIS AND ITEM 47. THIS SHOULD BE SUPER EXCITING FOR ALL OF YOU. I KNOW YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM. I'M VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE FINALLY HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THIS. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. EVEN BEFORE I WAS HERE, LOTS OF HOURS HAVE BEEN SPENT ON THIS WITH MULTIPLE PARTIES INVOLVED. IT WAS VERY TEDIOUS. BUT THIS IS FOR THE POLICY FOR A&E SERVICES AND THE POLICY. THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO ESTABLISH PROCEDURES FOR SELECTING A AND E SERVICES THAT ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CHAPTER 2254, WHICH IS THE SELECTION OF A MOST HIGHLY QUALIFIED RESPONDENT, AS WELL AS A FAIR NEGOTIATION OF PRICE. I'M NOT GOING TO STEAL ROSS THUNDER, SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HIM AND HE CAN SPEAK. I MIGHT CHIME IN. THANK YOU JAMIE, SO REAL QUICK. HUGE THANKS TO URIEL, LAUREN, HIS TEAM, ROBERT PACHUCAS AS WELL. AND THEN OF COURSE JAMIE FOR GETTING THIS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. THE INTENT OF THIS IS TO FOLLOW ALL THE LAWS, PROCUREMENT LAWS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. SO A, AN ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES. THIS THE INTENT OF THIS IS TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS. BUT IT'S FOR ROUTINE SMALL ROUTINE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. AND SO THERE'S PROVISIONS IN HERE FOR AUDITING AND FOR LEGAL TO AUDIT OUR RECORDS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE COMPLYING. AND THE INTENT IS TO, WHEN PROJECTS COME UP, ROUTINE SMALL PROJECTS, WE IDENTIFY THROUGH A RANKING SYSTEM, THE MOST HIGHLY QUALIFIED VENDOR. AND PART OF THIS IS ESTABLISHING AN A, A BANK OF PRE-QUALIFIED VENDORS, AND THEN RANKING THOSE BASED ON THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, BRING IN THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE COURT, AND THEN THE COURT WOULD ALLOW OR VOTE ON YES DEPARTMENT HEAD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT NEGOTIATION. THE DEPARTMENT HEAD WOULD GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT, AND THEN THE CONTRACT WOULD FORMALLY BE APPROVED AT COMMISSIONERS COURT. SO THERE WOULD BE TWO FOR ROUTINE SMALL PROJECTS, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO COMMISSIONERS COURT PRESENTATIONS, ONE TO NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT AND NUMBER TWO TO [00:55:03] APPROVE THE CONTRACT. AND WE'RE FOLLOWING THIS POLICY AND PROCEDURE. AND IT'S VERY CLEAR. IT'S VERY TRANSPARENT. AND OF OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR AUDITOR AND LEGAL STAFF AND PROCUREMENT TO AUDIT OUR RECORDS. ONE THING I DO WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THAT SINCE THE COUNTY ENGINEER WROTE, ROAD AND BRIDGE UTILIZES PROFESSIONAL SERVICES QUITE A BIT, THIS POLICY, IT MAKES MY OFFICE THE BANK OR RESPONSIBLE FOR RETAINING THOSE RECORDS. THAT SAID, IF THERE ARE OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT NEED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, WE. MY OFFICE RETAINS OR MAINTAINS THAT ONGOING BANK. AND THEN THEY CAN PULL PRE-QUALIFIED VENDOR INFORMATION AND THEIR QUALIFICATIONS FROM THAT BANK. BUT THEN IT THE RESPONSIBILITY FALLS ON ME TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THIS PROCEDURE, THAT WE'RE KEEPING THAT BANK OF VENDORS ONGOING AND UP TO DATE. AND I'M WILLING TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT EXPEDITES OUR, OUR, OUR PROCESS. AND IT'S VERY CLEAR. AND IT'S IT'S GOING TO WORK WELL. ROSS, WHERE CAN THE VENDORS SUBMIT THEIR STATEMENTS OF QUALIFICATION? SO STATEMENTS OF QUALIFICATIONS WILL BE THERE WILL BE A REGISTRY THAT'S GOING TO BE MAINTAINED, MAINTAINED IN MY OFFICE, BUT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SUBMIT IT ONLINE. THERE WILL BE AN EMAIL. IT IS NOT UP UP YET. I'M I'M TOLD, BUT IT WILL BE SOON. BUT THE EMAIL WILL BE W C REGISTRY AT WALLER COUNTY.US AND THAT WILL BE ON YOUR WEBSITE OR THE COUNTY ENGINEER. IT'LL BE IT'LL BE ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE. SO IT'LL BE ON COUNTY ENGINEER WEBSITE. AND WE'LL HAVE OUR OWN SPECIFIC PAGE THAT DIRECTS POTENTIAL VENDORS TO SUBMIT THEIR STATEMENTS OF QUALIFICATIONS. THEIR QUALIFICATIONS WILL BE. SUBMITTED ON A FORM OF A STANDARD FORM. AND SO EVERYTHING WILL BE LINED OUT AND BE ABLE TO BE SUBMITTED ONLINE ONE TIME AND WILL BE RETAINED IN MY OFFICE. WE'LL KEEP KEEP THOSE RECORDS ON HAND, BUT EVERYTHING WILL BE THROUGH THAT EMAIL. W C REGISTRY AT WALLER COUNTY.US. SO WILL THIS BE RANKED FROM AN OPINION OF THE BEST FIRM TO THE LEAST, OR WILL IT BE JUST A RANKING OF. THESE PEOPLE ARE QUALIFIED. SO THE REGISTRY WILL BE PRE-QUALIFIED. SO WE'LL PRE-QUALIFY FOR DIFFERENT TASKS. SO LIKE WE DID THE BOND. I'M SORRY. SOMEWHAT LIKE WE DID THE ROAD BOND. YES, SIR. YES SIR. YEAH. BECAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. BUT WHAT YOU KNOW, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE AND I VERY MUCH APPLAUD THIS WHOLE EFFORT. IS THERE A MINIMUM OR A MINIMUM AMOUNT BELOW WHICH. SOMEONE COULD JUST PICK UP A PHONE AND, AND CALL AS AN EXAMPLE, I'M GOING TO USE DANNY, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DANNY. BUT IF DANNY C, YOU KNOW, BE A FACILITIES MANAGER, HE'S GOT A FLOODING ISSUE SOMEWHERE AND HE WANTS TO SHOOT SOME ELEVATIONS TO SEE WHERE THE LOW SPOTS ARE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND IT MAY BE IT'S GOING TO COST $8,000. DO WE HAVE TO CAN THAT BE EXEMPT FROM THIS THING SO THAT HE CAN JUST TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS AND GET IT DONE? OR DO THEY ALL HAVE TO PASS THROUGH THIS PROCESS? SO WE WOULD UTILIZE THIS PROCESS. AND THERE'S A PROVISION IN HERE THAT STATES ANYTHING LESS THAN $10 MILLION. AND SO YOU MEAN CONSTRUCTION COSTS, CONTRACT COST, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES COST. I MEAN WE DON'T HAVE MANY PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WHERE WE PAY SOMEONE $10 MILLION. SO EVERYBODY'S EXEMPT FROM IT. NOT NOT EVERYONE IS EXEMPT. I WOULD SAY IF IT'S A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, THEY WOULD FOLLOW THIS THIS POLICY. AND SO THE BENEFIT IS THAT WE HAVE THE PRE QUALIFIED PART ONE LIST, AND WE CAN JUMP RIGHT INTO THAT PART TWO, WHICH IS IDENTIFYING THE THE TOP VENDORS AND AND RANKING THEM WITHOUT COMING TO COURT AND DOING A, A WHOLE NOTHER REQUEST. RIGHT NOW, IT'S TAKING SIX MONTHS OR LONGER, LONGER THAN TWO MONTHS. AND SO FOR SMALL AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF OUT OF TURN HERE, BUT FOR SMALLER NEEDS, OF COURSE, WE WOULD GO THROUGH JAMIE AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE FOLLOWING CODE, BUT FOR THOSE [01:00:02] NEEDS THAT ARE LESS THAN $50,000, WE WOULD DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN-HOUSE. NOT A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, BUT JUST IF YOU NEED, I DON'T KNOW, FLOORING OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW, NON PROFESSIONAL SERVICE. THEN WE WOULD GO GET SOME BIDS, IDENTIFY THOSE AND THEN PROCESS THOSE. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF IT'S A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE WE WOULD FOLLOW THIS THIS POLICY NO MATTER THE VALUE OF THE CONTRACT. THAT'S CORRECT COMMISSIONER. AND I APPLAUD EVERYBODY THAT HAD A PART IN THIS BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN, IF I MAY, THIS WOULDN'T LIKE THE CIRCUMSTANCE YOU GAVE ABOUT FLOODING. THIS WOULDN'T NECESSARILY TAKE THE PLACE OF LIKE AN EMERGENCY TYPE SITUATION. IT WOULD STILL HAVE SORT OF THAT AVENUE IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SIMILAR TO RILEY ROAD BRIDGE. I REALLY WASN'T TALKING ABOUT AN EMERGENCY THING. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT LET'S I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT WHERE MAYBE A PARKING LOT IS ROUTINELY GOT AN ISSUE, AND HE WANTS TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION AND, AND THE SERVICE IS GOING TO COST HIM 5000 OR $8000 INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, $100,000. I KNOW A LOT OF ENTITIES THAT I'VE DEALT WITH IN THE PAST. IF IT'S BELOW A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, THEY CAN JUST GO OUT AND PROCURE THAT SERVICE FROM A QUALIFIED PERSON QUALIFICATION, MEANING THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE A REGISTERED SURVEYOR. BUT BUT APPARENTLY IF I'M IF I'M RIGHT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THIS REGISTRY FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. THAT IS CORRECT. YES, SIR. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S CERTAIN PROCEDURE REQUIREMENTS, STATE REQUIREMENTS, AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THESE. THAT'S WHY I HAVE MY PROFESSIONAL TO THE RIGHT HERE. BUT CHAPTER 2254 AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. AND SO WHILE I HAVE HAVE SOME OPINIONS THAT MAY DIFFER A LITTLE BIT IN THE POLICY AND PROCEDURES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH LEGAL AND THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, AND IT'S SOMETHING I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL STEP. I THINK EVERYTHING'S CONSISTENT. IT'S, IT'S DOABLE. AND IT KEEPS US ABOVE BOARD. IT'S TRANSPARENT. IT AFFORDS THE AUDITOR AND LEGAL DEPARTMENT OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW. SO YEAH, IT IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN PRIVATE SECTOR, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD FOLLOW THIS PROCEDURE. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A REASON THAT I ASK. THERE ARE A LOT OF SMALL FIRMS, VERY SMALL FIRMS THAT DON'T HAVE THE STAFF AND SO FORTH TO KEEP THE STATISTICS NECESSARY NOR PREPARE THE SF3, THREE 30S OR 254 OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT IS. AND SO THEY'RE KIND OF AT A DISADVANTAGE WHEREBY THEY MIGHT COULD QUALIFY FOR SOME SMALL PROJECTS. IT'S COST PROHIBITIVE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DO THAT. THAT'S THAT'S THE NATURE OF MY QUESTION. I'M NOT I'M NOT ARGUING AGAINST WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY UNDER UNDERSTAND AND NOTED. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, WE CHOOSE BASED ON HIGHLY QUALIFIED, MOST HIGHLY QUALIFIED. BUT AS PART OF THAT IS AVAILABILITY. SO, YOU KNOW, IF ONE FIRM GETS ALL THE WORK, THEN THEY MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE FROM A TIME SCHEDULING STANDPOINT. SO WE'LL TAKE ALL THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND CHOOSE ON. YEAH. SO OUR, OUR FIRST AND FOREMOST WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE THAT HAS SOMETHING TO, TO DO WITH THIS PROCESS, SUCH AS ROBERT OR JAMIE. URIEL, LAUREN, EVEN SEAN, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS ALLOWS US TO STREAMLINE PROCESSES. AND ROSS, YOU KNOW, I MESS WITH YOU ALL THE TIME ABOUT YOU BEING A SCHOOL TEACHER AND HOW IF WE HAD A BOARD RIGHT NOW, YOU PROBABLY WOULD DRAW ON IT AND BREAK THIS DOWN TO US. BUT REMEMBER ME WITH YOU AND YOU GAVE ME THREE THINGS ABOUT HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY HELP YOU AND HELP OUR COUNTY WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS IN WHICH WE'RE GROWING SO FAST. AND I THINK I'M HAPPY TO SAY THIS YEAR WE TOOK CARE OF TWO OF THOSE THINGS THAT THAT WAS ON THAT LIST, AND WE'RE WORKING ON A THIRD. BUT I THINK THIS ALLOWS US TO STREAMLINE PROCESSES AND WORK ON PROJECTS. IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO USE OUR PRIVATE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE OUT IN THE INDUSTRY, THAT COULD HELP US OUT, THAT WE CAN'T TAKE CARE OF SOME THINGS IN-HOUSE, RATHER THAN YOU TALKED ABOUT RALEIGH ROAD. I REMEMBER RALEIGH ROAD COMING UP AND WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT HOW COULD WE MAKE AN EMERGENCY AND MAKE THAT TIMELINE MOVE FASTER, RATHER THAN SOMETIMES LOOKING TO SEE [01:05:02] THINGS HAPPEN FOR ABOUT 3 TO 6 MONTHS. SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL WORKING ON THIS AND BRINGING US. AND THEN JAMIE PROCUREMENT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE BROUGHT YOU ON BOARD WITH FOR. AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE. AND I'D LIKE TO SAY YOU COULD PROBABLY HANG YOUR HAT ON THIS ONE. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. UNOPPOSED ITEMS ARE APPROVED. THANK YOU BOTH. AND THANKS FOR EVERYBODY THAT HAD A HAND IN THAT. ALL RIGHT. THAT WILL [TREASURER (Part 2 of 2)] BRING US TO WE'VE ALREADY DONE 49. BUT I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR 48 AND 50. MOTION. SECOND. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION SECOND TO APPROVE 48 AND 50. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND UNOPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. THAT'LL BRING US TO ITEM NUMBER [DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES] 51. MOTION SECOND TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT OF THE WALLER COUNTY JUSTICE CENTER AND AUTHORIZE ITS RECORDATION AND THE DEED OF RECORDS IN WALLER COUNTY, TEXAS. DANNY, THIS IS JUST A PLAT TO CLEAN UP THE SITUATION OF BUYING SOME OF THE LAND OVER THERE, AROUND THE JAIL AREA AND GET IT ALL STRAIGHT WITH THE CITY. IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. GOTCHA. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 51? ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. NONE OPPOSED. 51 IS APPROVED. JUDGE, I DO WANT TO THROW OUT DISCLAIMER ONE OF YOU GUYS KNOW MY WORD VERBIAGE. I HAVE A LITTLE FUN PRIVATE FAMILY MEMBERS. I'M JUST SAYING WE ALL ARE FAMILY AS HUMAN BEINGS, AS PEOPLE. I DON'T WANT ANYBODY THINKING THAT I'M GIVING MY FAMILY MEMBER WHO WORKS ON A PRIVATE SIDE A CONTRACT OR ANYTHING, SO JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. I MEANT ABOUT FAMILY. IT'S JUST US AS PEOPLE BEING HERE, NOT ACTUAL FAMILY BLOOD. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT. ALL RIGHT, I'LL GET SOME. SOME OF THESE. WE NEED TO [MISCELLANEOUS] TAKE THEM UP INDIVIDUALLY. ITEM 52 IS DISCUSS TAKE ACTION TO RETAIN BLACKWELL TO REPRESENT THE COUNTY AND LEGAL MATTERS INVOLVING ML DEV. HAVE A MOTION OR SECOND, HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED 52. CARRIES 53. MOTION. SECOND. MOTION. SECOND. DISCUSS. TAKE ACTION TO SET MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RESERVE DEPUTIES FOR THE CONSTABLE'S THAT THEY MAY CARRY IN THEIR DEPARTMENT. CONSTABLE. NO. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING SIR. SO WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS. I'VE CRUNCHED SOME NUMBERS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS WENT INTO THE NUMBERS THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED. SPOKE WITH JOAN ABOUT COSTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND AS YOU KNOW WE TRY TO KEEP COSTS DOWN FOR THE COUNTY TRYING TO KEEP COSTS DOWN FOR US BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE UNIFORMS AND CERTAIN THINGS NOW BY LAW. SO THAT MATH TOLD ME THAT MY OFFICE NEEDS 13 RIGHT NOW. I DON'T HAVE 13, BUT WE'RE MAKING IT. SO I WAS PREPARED TO COME IN HERE AND SAY, GIVE US 15. HOWEVER, THE SAME MATH TELLS ME THAT PRECINCT ONE AND PRECINCT FOUR NEED 20. AND THAT'S BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE IN COURT. PRECINCT ONE. THEIR JUDGE LIKES TO HAVE FOREIGN COURT BECAUSE OF THEIR SECURITY ISSUES. PRECINCT FOUR NEEDS FOUR JUST BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING. AND SO WE'D LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR FOR 20 REMEMBER THAT WITH EVERY PAID PERSON FULL TIME, THAT NUMBER GOES DOWN. SO WE'RE. MY MATH TELLS ME TODAY I NEED 13. TELLS ME NEXT YEAR I NEED EIGHT. SO AS WE CONTINUE TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR THE AGENCIES AND THE AND THE PUBLIC, THOSE NUMBERS CAN CAN BE LOOKED AT AGAIN IN FUTURE YEARS. WELL, THIS IS JUST WE'RE SETTING THE MAX. RIGHT. SO. RIGHT. AND THAT'S THAT'S GOOD THERE. THAT'S WHY I SAY 20. AND THIS CAN CHANGE, I GUESS, KIND OF AT ANY POINT WHERE IF THE COURT DECIDES WE MAKE IT 15 TOMORROW OR 25 NEXT WEEK, YOU CAN ALWAYS READDRESS IT. THIS ISN'T SET IN STONE FOR FROM HERE TO ETERNITY. SO, SO WE DID LOOK AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS TO COME UP WITH THE NUMBERS. IT WASN'T JUST PULLED OUT OF THE AIR THAT BACK THERE. I'M GONNA GO WITH THAT TOO. YES. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GETTING TOGETHER ON THAT. AND JOAN, YOU'RE WE'RE GOOD BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY THAT'S LOWERING THE NUMBER FROM WHAT I THINK I BELIEVE IT IS. I THINK WE HAVE NOT HAD AN OFFICIAL NUMBER ON RECORD, BUT I BELIEVE 20 IS LESS. YES, SIR. IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 30 AT ONE TIME. BUT NOW WE HAVE OFFICIAL RECORD FOR YOU AND. ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO AMEND BY MAKING IT 20 IS THE MAX FOR RESERVE DEPUTIES FOR THE CONSTABLE'S DEPARTMENT. HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. ANY OTHER [01:10:01] DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE UNDERLYING AMENDMENT OR MOTION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. IT IS APPROVED. ALL RIGHT. WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DISCUSS THIS DISCUSSION? OH, MAN, I LOVE YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL SAYS WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DISCUSS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AGAIN, A QUICK REMINDER, WE DO HAVE OUR SPECIAL MEETING TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 8TH AT 9:00. IT'S RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM. IT'S GOING TO BE A BUDGET HEARING AND TO APPROVE THE BUDGET, HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN TO ADJOURN SECOND, MOTION SECOND TO ADJOURN. REMEMBER, THE BURN BAN IS IN EFFECT. ALL IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. NOT OPPOSED. MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.