[CALL TO ORDER]
          [00:00:05]
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. WELCOME TO THIS MEETING, WALLER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT. TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, JUNE 10TH, 2026. AT THIS TIME, BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR AGENDA, WE ASK IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PLEASE STAND AND JOIN COMMISSIONER AMSLER IN AN INVOCATION FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGES LED BY COMMISSIONER BECKENDORF. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE LORD'S PRAYER. OUR FATHER, WHO ART IN HEAVEN, HALLOWED BE THY NAME. THY KINGDOM COME, THY WILL BE DONE, ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD. AND FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES, AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US. AND LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION, BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL. FOR THINE IS THE KINGDOM, THE POWER, AND THE GLORY FOREVER. AMEN. AS OUR NATION, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. I TAKE LIFE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE, SAVING UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WITH THAT, WE WILL START WITH NUMBER ONE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED. AGENDA IS APPROVED. NEXT WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. IT LOOKS LIKE I'VE GOT ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP. JUST A REMINDER, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. I WILL KEEP THE TIME HERE AT THE FRONT, AND I WILL LET THE SPEAKER KNOW WHEN THEY HAVE ONE MINUTE REMAINING. WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP AND THAT IS JAMES NELSON. MR. NELSON, ARE YOU HERE? NELSON? PUT HIS NAME ON THE LIST TO SPEAK. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING? ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. 
          [CONSENT AGENDA]
THEN THAT WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT. AND THAT WILL MOVE US TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED? CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. ALL RIGHT. OH, SORRY. 
          [PROCLAMATION]
NEXT, WE WILL HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE PRAIRIE VIEW A&M UNIVERSITY WOMEN'S SOFTBALL TEAM AND THEIR STAFF FOR WINNING THE 2026 SOUTHWESTERN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE WESTERN DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIP. DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS AT ALL? YES. TODAY WE HAVE THE HEAD COACH OF THE LADY PANTHERS HERE WITH A COUPLE ATHLETES AS WELL. 
          I CAN START GETTING USED TO THIS. IT SEEMS LIKE IN EVERY SPORT PURVIEW HAS DONE PRETTY GOOD. AND THIS YEAR, WE'RE WE'RE WINNING SWAC. THE. SO OUR SOFTBALL TEAM, PURVIEW A&M UNIVERSITY SOFTBALL TEAM HAS WENT ON TO DO SOME GREAT THINGS. THEY ARE. 2026 SWAC WESTERN DIVISION CHAMPS, MARKING THEIR FOURTH CONSECUTIVE DIVISION TITLE AND SOLIDIFYING THEIR LEGACY AS A DOMINANT FORCE WITHIN THE SWAC. COACH VERNON HAS BEEN A GREAT COACH, MENTOR, AND LEADER TO THE YOUNG LADIES OF THAT TEAM, AND SO THANK MISTER ROBERTS FOR ALSO ASSISTING AND PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. LIKE FOR THE COURT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THAT PURVIEW. A&M UNIVERSITY WOMEN'S SOFTBALL TEAM IS FORMALLY RECOGNIZED AND HONORED FOR THEIR HISTORIC FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING REPRESENTATION OF THE PERUVIAN A&M UNIVERSITY AND THEIR CONTINUED CONTRIBUTION TO THE PRIDE AND SPIRIT OF WALLER COUNTY AND THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS. SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU ALL DO ON AND OFF THE FIELD, AS WELL AS ALWAYS BEING A PRODUCTIVE PANTHER THAT THE COURT PASSED THIS PROCLAMATION AND THEN TAKE A BEAUTIFUL PHOTO WITH THE COACH AND THE YOUNG LADIES THAT ARE HERE. OKAY. WELL, AND I JUST WANT TO ADD CONGRATULATIONS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATED IN THAT LEVEL OF COMPETITION HAVE NO IDEA THE 
          [00:05:06]
TIME, THE EFFORT THAT GOES IN TO BEING A CHAMPION AT THAT LEVEL. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS. VERY PROUD OF Y'ALL. Y'ALL HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB NOT JUST FOR MAKING THE UNIVERSITY PROUD, BUT ALSO WALLER COUNTY AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING AMBASSADORS AND BEING CHAMPIONS IN YOUR OWN RIGHT, AND FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU INVESTED IN THE INTO YOUR YOUR SEASON. I'M LOOKING AT JUST SOME OF THE ACCOLADES AND IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. SIX MAJOR POSTSEASON HONORS, SWAC FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR, MORGAN SMITH. FIRST TEAM SELECTIONS, SECOND TEAM HONOREES. I MEAN, VERY IMPRESSIVE. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB, MAN. YEAH. CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN. IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT. 
          I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO GIVE AN ANSWER, BUT FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING ROLE MODELS TO OTHER YOUNG WOMEN IN THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY LOOK UP TO YOU GUYS CAN SEE THE HARD WORK YOU'RE DOING, AND YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO BE JUST LIKE YOU, YOU KNOW, ALL. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR THE YOUNG WOMEN. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          LET'S GO AHEAD. AND WITHOUT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          OPPOSED. SO IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO COME UP, THE FOLKS WOULD PREFER YOU TO TAKE A QUICK PICTURE WITH YOU ALL. CONGRATULATIONS. ALL RIGHT. HOW ABOUT ANOTHER ROUND OF APPLAUSE? I THINK I OVERHEARD COMMISSIONER BECKENDORF. THIS IS SOMETHING I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND. HOW THEY CAN THROW A SOFTBALL THAT FAST UNDER UNDERHANDED. I JUST THE MECHANICS DON'T EVEN MAKE SENSE. GREAT JOB. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT WILL CONCLUDE 35. AND NOW THAT 
          [WALLER COUNTY CHILD WELFARE BOARD]
WILL MOVE US TO NUMBER 36. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE HAVE MR. PORTER HERE WITH US THIS MORNING. YES THERE HE IS. OKAY. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF JAMES PORTER TO THE WALLER COUNTY CHILD WELFARE BOARD FOR A TWO YEAR TERM. MR. PORTER, THANK YOU. BY THE WAY, I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOU ARE ONE OF OUR OWN. YOU WORK AT ROAD AND BRIDGE, CORRECT. AND WHAT DO YOU DO THERE, CONSTRUCTION INSPECTOR? OKAY. SO HE HAS GRACIOUSLY AGREED TO. I THINK WE'RE GETTING PRETTY FULL, AREN'T WE? I THINK THIS WILL MAKE US 11. I THINK MIGHT HAVE MISCOUNTED. YEAH. SO BUT I APPRECIATE ANOTHER GUY. I WAS THE ONLY GUY BOARD MEETING AND KIND OF GOT OVERRUN A LITTLE BIT. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE. WELL THAT'S AWESOME. WELL MR. PORTER, THANK YOU FOR TAKING ON THIS DUTY. AND IT IS OBVIOUSLY OUR CHILD WELFARE BOARD IS VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR COUNTY, AND ESPECIALLY TO THE FOSTER CHILDREN OF THE COUNTY AS WELL, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND AND ESPECIALLY TO HELP THEIR FOSTER PARENTS AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING ON THIS OBLIGATION. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ADMINISTER YOUR OATH. LET'S GO AHEAD. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. MR. MR. PORTER, I WANT WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOU PICKING UP THE CALL TO JOIN THE CHILD WELFARE BOARD AND BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY JUST WORKING FOR THE COMMUNITY. TO ME, THAT SPEAKS A MILLION WORDS ABOUT WHO YOU ARE, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU, BUT FOR YOU TO BE WILLING TO DO THAT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR BEING OF SERVICE TO US OVER AT ROAD AND BRIDGE AND WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. APPRECIATE IT. OF 
          [00:10:03]
COURSE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, MR. PORTER, I'M GONNA HAVE YOU COME ON UP WITH THE ADMINISTRATOR. MAKE SURE YOUR BOSS TAKES YOU OUT TO LUNCH TODAY. ALL. ALL RIGHT. STATE YOUR NAME. JAMES PORTER. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. DO SWEAR THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE, FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE. THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF COUNTY CHILD WELFARE BOARD, THE WALLER COUNTY CHILD WELFARE BOARD, THE STATE OF TEXAS, THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND WILL, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND, PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION, THE CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THE UNITED STATES, AND OF THIS STATE AND OF THE STATE. SO HOW WOULD YOU DO. CONGRATULATIONS. AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. WE WILL NOW HAVE 
          [EXTENSION OFFICE]
NUMBER 37, A PRESENTATION BY THE EXTENSION OFFICE ON OUR AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES REPORT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING. BEFORE ME AND STEADMAN GET STARTED, I DO HAVE SOME HANDOUTS FOR YOU. OKAY, I FORGOT ONE. ALL RIGHT. WHILE Y'ALL ARE PASSING THOSE OUT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND OF WHERE THIS IDEA CAME FROM IS, AS SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE EVEN SAID ON THE ON COMMISSIONERS COURT AGRILIFE. AND THE EXTENSION IS ONE OF THE BEST KEPT SECRETS, NOT ONLY IN WALLER COUNTY, BUT PROBABLY ACROSS THE STATE. SO ONE OF OUR MAIN JOBS IS WE NEED TO PROMOTE NOT ONLY OURSELVES, BUT GET IT, GET THE WORD OUT TO THE COUNTY. AND THEN Y'ALL, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND LOCAL LEADERS, WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO IN THE COUNTY SO THAT WE CAN BETTER SERVE THE CITIZENS. AND WE CALL THAT INTERPRETATION BASICALLY AN EXTENSION. SO WHAT A LOT OF COUNTIES DO IS THEY DO ONE BIG ANNUAL INTERPRETATION EVENT WITH COMMISSIONERS COURT. WE WERE THINKING WITH SEVEN AGENTS IN THE COUNTY, IN OUR OFFICE HERE IN WALLER COUNTY, IF EVERY AGENT CAME UP HERE AND SPOKE FOR THREE MINUTES, I'D BE 20 MINUTES EASILY AND OUT OF COURTESY FOR Y'ALL'S TIME. WE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE UP THAT MUCH TIME. SO INSTEAD, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO COME HERE BASICALLY ONCE EVERY QUARTER, BECAUSE THERE'S FOUR SUBJECT AREAS IN THE WALLER COUNTY EXTENSION OFFICE, AND THEN THAT SUBJECT AREA WILL GIVE A SHORT REPORT EVERY QUARTER SO THAT WE'RE NOT UP HERE TALKING FOR 20 MINUTES. 
          AND SO THOSE FOUR SUBJECT AREAS ARE AG AND NATURAL RESOURCES, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR H. AND THEN FAMILY AND COMMUNITY HEALTH. SO WHAT WE DID FOR TODAY IS I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER THIS, BUT WE JUST GAVE YOU ALL A TOP FIVE HIGHLIGHT OF WHAT EACH OF THOSE SUBJECT AREAS DID IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND THEN ALONG WITH OUR VOLUNTEERS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE IMPORTANT TOO. SO Y'ALL CAN LOOK AT THAT ON YOUR OWN TIME. BUT FOR TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE AG AND NATURAL RESOURCES UPDATE BASICALLY FOR THE LAST YEAR. AND THEN I SAID, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT EVERY QUARTER. BUT FOR ALL OF US, SINCE WE'RE STARTING LATE IN 2026, WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE EVERY TWO MONTHS BASICALLY. 
          AND THEN GOING INTO 27, WE'LL GET ON A QUARTERLY SCHEDULE. BUT FOR TODAY, FOR AG AND NATURAL RESOURCES, YOU GOT MYSELF HERE, MATTHEW MARKS ON THE AGRILIFE SIDE, AND YOU GOT MR. STEDMAN DOUGLAS DOUGLAS HERE ON THE PRAIRIE VIEW EXTENSION SIDE. SO Y'ALL HAVE MY REPORT UP THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT VERBATIM, BUT BASICALLY ON THE AGRILIFE SIDE, 
          [00:15:03]
WE HAVE THREE BIG AREAS IN THE AG AND NATURAL RESOURCES AREA SUBJECT AREA. WE HAVE PROGRAMS WE HOST HERE IN WALLER COUNTY. THEN WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE MULTI-COUNTY PROGRAMS. THEY'RE KIND OF REGIONAL. A LOT OF THOSE HAPPEN IN BRENHAM OR IN COLLEGE STATION OR UP IN NAVASOTA COUNTY THAT WE'RE PART OF. AND THEN WE DO RESORT DEMONSTRATIONS HERE IN THE COUNTY. SO I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THESE REAL QUICK JUST TO TOUCH ON THEM ON THE FIRST PAGE IS KIND OF SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF PROGRAMING HERE IN THE COUNTY. WE DO PROGRAMING AND BEEF AND FORAGE, OBVIOUSLY ONE OF OUR BIG PROGRAMS, AND THAT IS THE SOUTH CENTRAL TEXAS AG CONFERENCE. WE DO A LOT WITH HORTICULTURE, BOTH COMMERCIAL AND HOMEOWNERS. SO WE HAVE A BIG DEMONSTRATION DOWN AT BROOKWOOD HORTICULTURE DOWN IN BROOKSHIRE, WHERE WE'RE TESTING NEW PLANTS, BASICALLY, THAT GROWERS ARE WANTING TO TO GIVE TO THE CONSUMER. AND WE'RE SEEING IF THEY CAN GROW HERE IN THE GULF COAST AND THEN AT THE CONSUMERS ACTUALLY LIKE THEM. 
          SO WE HAVE A BIG EVENT. WE HAD ABOUT 100. WE HAD 75 PEOPLE LAST YEAR, HOMEOWNERS. THEY CAME OUT AND THEY GOT TO PICK BASICALLY THEIR FAVORITE PLANTS. AND WE GAVE THAT DATA BACK TO GROWERS LIKE SPRING CREEK AND THE OTHER BIG COMMERCIAL GROWERS AROUND WALLER COUNTY. 
          WE DO ORCHARD PROGRAMS. IF Y'ALL WOULD FLIP TO THE BACK, I JUST KIND OF LISTED SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS WE HOST HERE IN THE COUNTY, LIKE SOIL DRIVE, STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT WE'RE PART OF BIG MULTI-COUNTY PROGRAMS ALSO, WHICH BENEFIT OUR PRODUCERS HERE BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE IN BRENHAM, WE USUALLY HAVE 10 OR 20 PEOPLE GO TO SOMETHING LIKE THE COW CALF CLINIC THAT'S IN BRENHAM AND THE FORT BEND REGIONAL VEGETABLE CONFERENCE. THAT'S A BIG ONE. WE GET QUITE A FEW HOMEOWNERS THAT GO DOWN THERE FOR THAT ONE. ALSO, I'LL WRAP UP WITH THE RESULT DEMONSTRATIONS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE Y'ALL AREN'T QUITE AS FAMILIAR WITH, BUT EXTENSION. WE HAVE ALL THIS GREAT RESEARCH THAT GETS DONE AT COLLEGE STATION OR THROUGHOUT THE RESEARCH STATIONS THROUGHOUT TEXAS. 
          THERE'S ABOUT 12 OF THEM, I BELIEVE. BUT HOW DO WE GET THAT INFORMATION TO OUR FARMERS, RANCHERS, HOMEOWNERS, LANDOWNERS IN THE COUNTY? WE DO WHAT WE CALL RESULT DEMONSTRATIONS. THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE A RESEARCH PROJECT, BUT THEY'RE REALLY WE KNOW WHAT THE RESULTS ARE, BUT WE'RE DOING THAT ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY SO THAT THEY CAN SEE THOSE THOSE IMPACTS IN THE COUNTY. SO SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE GOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS A FERTILIZER COMPARISON FOR GARDEN VEGETABLE BEDS, GREENFIRE CONTROL DOWN IN THE BRAZOS RIVER BOTTOM, AND THEN RICE KERNEL SMUT AND RICE DELPHACID SCOUTING. THOSE ARE TWO EMERGING PEST IN RICE FIELDS. WE DO HAVE THEM BOTH HERE IN OUR WALLER RICE FIELDS. I'M BASICALLY IT'S KIND OF THE EQUIVALENT OF THE SCREWWORM IN RICE FIELDS. IT'S PRETTY DEVASTATING. SO THAT'S A BIG ECONOMIC ISSUE FOR THEM RIGHT NOW. AND SO WITH THAT, I'M DONE UNLESS Y'ALL GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. IF NOT, I'LL LET MR. STEADMAN TAKE OVER FOR THE PRAIRIE VIEW SIDE. THANK YOU MATT. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. GOOD MORNING. SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT I HAVE EXACTLY FIVE MINUTES TO DELIVER. WHAT COULD BE EASILY A FIVE HOUR PRESENTATION. SO I'M ASKING YOU TO PUT ON YOUR SEATBELTS. HOLD TIGHT, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO THE SPEED OF INNOVATION. 
          MY NAME IS STEADMAN DOUGLAS, AND I PROUDLY SERVE AS THE AGRICULTURAL NATURAL RESOURCE EXTENSION AGENT IN THE COOPERATIVE EXTENSION PROGRAM AT PRAIRIE VIEW A&M, RIGHT HERE IN WALLER COUNTY. BEFORE I DIVE INTO THE NUMBERS, I WANT TO TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT FOR SOME VERY IMPORTANT TRANSITIONS. FIRST, A HEARTFELT THANK YOU TO OUR OUTGOING JUDGE. THE HONORABLE JUDGE DUHON, FOR YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE AND TO THE COMMUNITY. WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST. AND TO OUR INCOMING JUDGE, COMMISSIONER BECKENDORF, WE WISH YOU ABSOLUTELY THE BEST AND TO OUR. WE WISH YOU TREMENDOUS SUCCESS. MR. BECKENDORF, I ALSO HAVE TO SAY, WALKING IN HERE TODAY, THE NEW COURTHOUSE. ABSOLUTELY STUNNING. I AND VERY SPACIOUS, VERY SPACIOUS. IT'S VERY GREAT LANDMARK FOR THE WALLER COUNTY. TODAY I'M HERE JUST TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT FOOD SECURITY THROUGH AGRICULTURE INNOVATION. THAT'S WHAT MY PROGRAM AND MY PROJECTS ARE ALL ABOUT. THE DOCUMENTS I ACTUALLY HAND OUT IS JUST A SNAPSHOT, A HIGH IMPACT OF THE 
          [00:20:08]
SUMMARY OF HOW WE ARE TRANSFORMING OUR LOCAL AGRICULTURE ECONOMY. BUT I DO NOT WANT TO TAKE THE CREDIT ALONE. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE MY PROGRAM LEADER, ASHLEY JAMES, AT THE PRAIRIE VIEW A&M UNIVERSITY. MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO ACTUALLY PUT THIS PROGRAM TOGETHER AND PUT ME TO WORK. ELECTED OFFICIALS, RESIDENTS OF THE WALLER. I WANT TO LEAVE WITH YOU ONE UNDENIABLE TRUTH. YOUR INVESTMENT IN AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCE EXTENSION IS A DIRECT INVESTMENT IN LOCAL BUSINESS HERE IN WALLER. WE DO NOT JUST TALK ABOUT IDEAS. WE PROVIDE CRITICAL ZERO COST SERVICE THAT TRANSLATE INTO IMMEDIATE, MEASURABLE MONETARY GAIN AND SUSTAINED ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR OUR FARMERS. WE SAVE THEM THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN INPUT, SECURE TAX EXEMPTION, AND INJECT OUTSIDE CAPITAL DIRECTLY INTO WALLER COUNTY ECOSYSTEM. LOOK AT THE SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU. I ENCOURAGE YOU, EVERY LEADERS, EVERY FARMER, EVERY RESIDENT IN WALLER COUNTY TO GET INVOLVED, PARTNER WITH US AND ATTEND THESE HIGH LEVEL IMPACT DESIGN, ESPECIALLY TO HELP THE COMMUNITY TO THRIVE. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. LET'S KEEP GROWING. WALLER COUNTY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION? QUESTIONS FROM THE. THANK YOU. THANK Y'ALL. WE'LL BE BACK HOPEFULLY AT THE END OF JULY TO DO COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING REAL QUICK. YOU KNOW, STEADMAN'S, OUR LOCAL BEE WHISPERER. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT BEES, HE'S YOUR MAN. YES. AND I KNOW IT WAS A BIG TOPIC A FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN, WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY CHANGING THE REQUIREMENTS ON AG EXEMPTION. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BEES OR IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ANYTHING RELATED TO YOUR PROPERTY, WHETHER YOU LIVE ON A, A 50 FOOT LOT OR A 500 ACRES, THE EXTENSION IS THE MOST UNDERUTILIZED RESOURCE WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTY, AND MOST EVERYTHING THAT THEY OFFER IS ABSOLUTELY FREE. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR GARDEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO BEES OR LIVESTOCK PRODUCTION, GIVE THESE GUYS A CALL. THEY, THEY, THEY LOVE WHAT THEY DO. AND, AND THANK YOU, MATTHEW FOR, FOR DOING THIS. YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN MORE, MORE THINGS COMING OUT OF THE EXTENSION SERVICE IN THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS SINCE SINCE YOUR ARRIVAL AND THEN THAN I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST. AND THAT'S GREAT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT JUST THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A WANT AND A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOU GUYS ARE THAT TOOL. IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHERE TO FIND YOU GUYS. AND SO LITERALLY HAVE AN EXPERT IN EVERY SUBJECT AREA YOU CAN THINK OF INVOLVED IN YOUR LIVES. THEY DO FOOD SCIENCES AND HEALTH SCIENCES TO TEACH YOUNG PEOPLE WHAT'S WHAT'S HEALTHY, WHAT'S WHAT'S NOT. I MEAN, IF YOU CAN THINK OF ROBOTICS. IF YOU CAN THINK OF EXTENSION SERVICE OFFERS IT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RIGHT HERE IN HEMPSTEAD. BUT THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND HELPING THE COMMUNITY. ONE MORE THING. WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL SOIL CAMPAIGN COMING UP IN JANUARY. IT'S ALL FOR FREE. A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF GETTING THEIR SOIL TESTED. IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. SO PLEASE JUST REACH OUT TO OUR OFFICE AND GET YOUR SOIL AND GET HAVE AN IDEA HOW TO SAVE SOME MONEY. AS IT RELATES TO FERTILIZATION, I JUST WANT TO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, ONE FOR BEING HERE FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. BUT TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF, FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO IN WALLER COUNTY. 
          WE'RE STILL A COUNTY THAT PLACES A VERY HIGH VALUE ON OUR AGRICULTURAL AND OUR RURAL HERITAGE. AND WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR FARMERS AND RANCHERS. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SHOW UP AT THE GROCERY STORE AND THEY THEY PICK UP A PIECE OF PRODUCE OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND THEY HAVE NO IDEA. AGAIN, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, NO PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A SOFTBALL CHAMPION. AND THE SWAC CONFERENCE. THEY HAVE NO IDEA ALL OF THE, THE TIME AND EFFORT EDUCATION INFORMATION THAT GOES INTO PRODUCING THOSE GOODS. AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S DEALING, YOU KNOW, SOIL TESTING OR DEALING WITH THE LATEST AND GREATEST IN TERMS OF INVASIVE SPECIES, THINGS THAT CAN IMPACT A CROP OR, OR CATTLE SCREWWORM. I MEAN, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT Y'ALL ARE THERE AS A RESOURCE AND THAT Y'ALL PROVIDE TO OUR FARMERS AND RANCHERS ON 
          [00:25:04]
A DAILY BASIS. AND IT'S EVIDENCED BY ALL THESE PROGRAMS AND STUFF THAT Y'ALL DO AND THE EDUCATION THAT Y'ALL PROVIDE. AND ULTIMATELY REALLY AT LITTLE OR NO COST MOST OF THE TIME. SO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR WHAT YOU DO AND FOR OUR FARMERS AND RANCHERS, BECAUSE THEY STILL ARE A BIG PART OF WHAT MAKES WALLER COUNTY A SPECIAL PLACE. AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY, GUYS, THAT IS NOW GOING TO MOVE US TO 
          [ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT]
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE THREE ITEMS UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE UP 38 AND 39 MOTION. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ON 38 AND 39. GOOD MORNING VINCE. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. GOOD MORNING. WE ARE COMING THIS MORNING ON A COUPLE DIFFERENT ITEMS. ONE IS TO APPROVE TWO SPEC ABATEMENTS FOR BUILDINGS BEING DEVELOPED BY CLAY DEVELOPMENT IN TWIN. WOULD YOU HAVE THOSE NOTED THERE BEFORE YOU? IS 200 APPROXIMATELY 260,000 SQUARE FOOT AND APPROXIMATELY 290,000 SQUARE FOOT ARE. IF YOU APPROVE THESE TWO BUILDINGS, THIS WILL RAISE OUR TOTAL SQUARE FOOT UNDER THIS ABATEMENT PROGRAM TO CLOSE TO 13,000,000FT■S. CLAY ALONE HAS INVESTED APPROXIMATELY TWO POINT 5,000,000FT■S IN OUR COUNTY. IT'S BEEN A GREAT DEVELOPMENT PARTNER FOR US. AND AGAIN, FOR THOSE THAT MAYBE THEY'VE NEVER HEARD ABOUT THIS. SO BASICALLY WITH A SPEC ABATEMENT, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GIVING AN ABATEMENT ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING. AND THEN ONCE A TENANT COMES IN AND LEASES THAT BUILDING, THE SPEC ABATEMENT GOES AWAY BECAUSE USUALLY WE'RE WE'RE WORKING A DEAL OR NOT WITH THE TENANT. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. IT COULD WE AMEND IT OR TERMINATE IT? WE CAN AMEND IT TO INCLUDE THE NEW OWNER OF THE BUILDING OR THE NEW TENANT OF THE BUILDING. IF THERE ARE A COMPANY THAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WANT TO ATTRACT TO THE COMMUNITY, AND BOTH OF THESE LOCATIONS ARE IN TWIN WOOD, ARE BOTH IN TWIN WOOD, CORRECT? OKAY. ARE YOU ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          HEARING NO DISCUSSION THEN. ALL IN FAVOR OF 3839. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED? 3839 ARE APPROVED. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE NUMBER 40. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS REGARDING THE DESIGNATION OF WALLER COUNTY, IDB REINVESTMENT ZONE 17, PURSUANT TO TEXAS TAX CODE, CHAPTER 312. WHY DON'T YOU JUST GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE? SURE. SO UNDER THE TEXAS TAX CODE, AND ANYTIME YOU WANT TO TRY TO DO ANY TYPE OF INCENTIVES IN AN AREA, YOU HAVE TO FIRST ESTABLISH WHAT'S REFERRED TO AS REINVESTMENT ZONE. THE REINVESTMENT ZONE IS SIMPLY THE AREA BEING DESIGNATED TO RECEIVE THOSE INCENTIVES. IN THIS CASE, USUALLY WE DO AN ABATEMENT. THIS PARTICULAR REINVESTMENT ZONE IS FOR AN INDUSTRIAL PROJECT GOING IN JUST SOUTH OF BROOKSHIRE. IT WILL BE ALL INDUSTRIAL. AT ONE POINT THERE WAS SOME SPECULATION THAT IT MIGHT GO RESIDENTIAL, BUT IS NOW ALL INDUSTRIAL COMMISSIONER BECKENDORFF HAD A MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPERS. IT IS NOW GOING TO BE ALL INDUSTRIAL. IT'S EFFECTIVELY GOING TO BE THE NEXT TWIN WOOD. SO THIS IS JUST LIKE WE DID WITH TWIN WOOD, WITH A CREATED A REINVESTMENT ZONE. WE'RE DOING THE SAME. 
          CORRECT? YEAH. I THINK IN AREAS THAT ENCOMPASS ULTIMATELY IT'LL BE CLOSE TO 700 ACRES. THEY'RE BUYING IT IN PIECES RIGHT NOW. THIS PART HERE I THINK IS ONLY 300 ACRES. I BELIEVE 453. I KIND OF GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF. IT IS 9:33 A.M. AND THAT PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. IS ANYBODY, ANYBODY HERE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT PUBLIC HEARING? ONE ONCE, TWICE. ALL RIGHT. IT IS 9:34 A.M. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED, AND WE WILL MOVE TO NUMBER 41 MOTION. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          ALL 5HIS IS WHAT TRANSPARENCY LOOKS LIKE IS TALKING. SO WE'RE HERE TO 
          [DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES]
          [00:30:18]
TALK. WE'RE MAKING A SAUSAGE. YES. YES SIR. AND SO I KNOW THESE ARE DIFFICULT TOPICS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY INVOLVED. BUT WE ARE ALSO FACING SOME VERY BIG CHALLENGES. AS YOU ARE AWARE, A FEW WEEKS AGO, ABOUT EIGHT WEEKS AGO, THE THE CENSUS BUREAU ANNOUNCED THAT WE'RE THE NUMBER ONE COUNTY IN TEXAS FOR GROWTH. AND NUMBER TWO, IN THE NATION THAT CERTAINLY WE COULD ALL FEEL THAT AND SEE THAT. AND WE CAN SEE IT HAPPENING. BUT NOW IT'S KIND OF MORE OFFICIAL. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT DEFINITELY CAUGHT ME BY SURPRISE. AND WHILE THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN EXCITING THING, IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE CHALLENGING AND DAUNTING. SO WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW WITH GROWTH ABOUT, WELL, AS OF RIGHT NOW, AS YOUR FACILITIES DIRECTOR, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'RE FULL AGAIN. WHEN WE MOVED OVER HERE IN NOVEMBER, WE HAD THE SWING SPACE AVAILABLE. WE'VE ALREADY MOVED FOUR DEPARTMENTS OVER THERE, AND EVERYWHERE WE GO, WE'RE FULL. AN EXAMPLE IS JUDGE ELECT DODSON THAT YOU'RE GOING TO. APPOINT HIM TODAY. AND I BELIEVE HE GETS SWORN IN ON FRIDAY. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT UNTIL YESTERDAY. AND SO I HAD NO PLACE FOR HIM TO GO. AND SO HIS HE WILL HAVE AN OFFICE ON THE THIRD FLOOR, BUT IT'S FIVE WEEKS FROM BEING FINISHED. GRACIOUSLY, COMMISSIONER AMSLER HAS OFFERED HIS OFFICE DOWN THE HALL HERE FOR JUDGE ELECT DODSON TO USE FOR THE NEXT FIVE WEEKS. FIVE WEEKS? ONLY. FOR FIVE WEEKS ONLY. SO IT'S A SHORT TERM THING, BUT I HAVE FOUND A SECURE PLACE FOR FOR JUDGE DODSON TO GO BECAUSE, YES, HE HAS. COUNTY COURT AT LAW ONE. THEY WERE OVER AT. CAROL CHENEY WAS OVER AT THE ANNEX BUILDING. THE ASSOCIATE JUDGE HAS TAKEN THAT SPACE. AND SO BOTH COUNTY COURT LAW ONE AND TWO WILL GO ON THE THIRD FLOOR IN ABOUT FIVE WEEKS. THAT'S THE KIND OF GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING. I I'M I'M OUT OF OFFICE SPACE FOR EVERYBODY. AND IF WE I WANT TO REMIND FOLKS OF GOING BACK AND I'M GOING TO GO PRE COVID, COVID AND POST COVID. THAT'S HOW IT'S IN MY HEAD. I YEARS AND DATES I, IT ALL RUNS TOGETHER IN MY HEAD PRE COVID THOSE WHO REMEMBER WE STARTED A PROCESS OF DOING PROGRAMING FOR 22 DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTY AND WE LOOKED AT THE NEEDS, HOW TO TAKE THOSE 22 DEPARTMENTS TO. 2050. AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME IT WAS DETERMINED SEVEN BUILDINGS WERE NEEDED. NEW FOR THE COUNTY. AT SOME CRITICAL POINT, THIS BUILDING WAS ONE OF THEM. THE JUSTICE TOWER, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS, WAS THE OTHER MAJOR ONE. PLUS YOU HAD ADULT PROBATION, JUVENILE PROBATION, A PERMITTING BUILDING AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ALL HAVE NOT HAPPENED BECAUSE COVID SLAMMED THE DOOR ON ALL OF THIS. IT JUST SLAMMED THE DOOR SHUT. SO WHAT ALSO HAPPENED IS. COVID, THE EFFECTS OF COVID ON THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY BACK IF YOU GO PRE-COVID CONSTRUCTION, I THINK, AND I HAVE SEVERAL COLLEAGUES HERE FROM CO. CONSTRUCTION WAS PRETTY NORMAL. INTEREST RATES WERE NORMAL, THINGS WERE NORMAL. WE COULD GET SUPPLIES, WE LONG LEAD, WE WERE USED TO IT AND COSTS WERE MORE OR LESS NORMAL. THE CONSENSUS NOW AFTER COVID IS THAT THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY TOOK A 40% HIT. SO WE'RE PRICES WERE PRE-COVID TO NOW IS 40% HIGHER. AND SOME PEOPLE SAY IT'S 45 TO 50. SO THAT HAS NOW STOPPED. WE'VE STABILIZED AGAIN. CONSTRUCTION HAS GONE BACK TO PRETTY MUCH NORMAL. WE DON'T HAVE SUPPLY CHAIN PROBLEMS REALLY ANYMORE. 
          AND THOSE THINGS ARE NORMAL. BUT CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES TO ESCALATE AT 45% PER YEAR. THAT IS STILL HAPPENING. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS, AT THE REQUEST OF SOME OF THE COURT, WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE JUSTICE TOWER PROJECT PRE COVID. IT WAS A $90 MILLION BUILDING. THAT WAS THE EIGHT FLOOR VERSION OF IT, WHICH CAN WHICH CONTAINED SOME INTERSTITIAL SPACE AND SOME OTHER THINGS. AND IT WAS ABOUT A $90 MILLION PROJECT BACK PRE COVID. THE 40% ESCALATION HAS PUSHED THAT PROJECT TO 120 MILLION. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS IS GONE BACK AND BMW AND SO FORTH. RYAN AND HIS TEAM HAVE LOOKED AT THE JUSTICE TOWER AND TAKEN IT BACK DOWN TO A FIVE FLOOR CONCEPT, GOTTEN RID OF SOME EXTRA SPACE FOR ALL OF YOU THAT WERE PART OF DESIGNING THESE BUILDINGS 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO. YOUR FLOOR PLANS REALLY HAVEN'T CHANGED. 
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EVERYTHING YOU NEED IS STILL THERE, BUT WE'VE TRIED TO TAKE OUT SOME THINGS, AND WE'VE MORE OR LESS GOTTEN THE PRICE BACK TO AROUND $100 MILLION BECAUSE OF A 4 OR 5% ESCALATION. 
          THERE'S FOLKS THAT SAY WE SHOULD WAIT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE COUNTY, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COUNTY IS YOU GO BACK TO THAT PLAN THAT WE DID FOR PROGRAMING. WE DID SOME LOOKING AT POPULATION AND GROWTH AND WHATNOT. BACK THEN, WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE AT 65000 PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY. AT 2030, WE'RE BUCKING 70,000 AT 2026. WE ARE ALSO WE LOOK AT THE POPULATION OF THE, OF, OF THE EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY. WE WERE THINKING WE WOULD BE ABOUT 400 EMPLOYEES AT 2030. I SPOKE TO GREG AND WE HAVE OVER 525 EMAIL ADDRESSES RIGHT NOW. JONES NOT HERE. I WAS GOING TO ASK HER, I THINK WE'RE AT AROUND 500 EMPLOYEES SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE. I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY, BUT THE NUMBER IS SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN WHAT WE PLANNED ON FIVE YEARS AGO. IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT, JUDGE? PROBABLY WITH WITH PART TIME YOU'RE INCLUDING THAT. 454 50 OKAY, SO I, I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT WITH JOAN, BUT SHE'S NOT HERE THIS MORNING. SO I, I THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING ME ON THE NUMBER, BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S MORE THAN WE PLANNED FOR. WE PLAN FOR 400 AT 2030. IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE COUNTY, WE ALL KNOW THE GROWTH. 
          THE CURRENT PLAN IS CURRENTLY WITH ROAD AND BRIDGE. THERE'S ABOUT 75 TO 80,000 LOTS UNDER DEVELOPMENT IN SUBDIVISIONS AROUND THE COUNTY THAT THEY KNOW OF THAT ARE THAT HAVE BEEN BOOKED. IF YOU TAKE AN AVERAGE OF THREE PEOPLE PER HOUSE, THAT'S 220 000 PEOPLE. SO IF WE'RE NEW PEOPLE. SO IF YOU TAKE. WE'RE AT 70, 75,000. NOW, THE 225, INCONCEIVABLY, IT TAKES 3 TO 5 YEARS TO BUILD OUT A SUBDIVISION. THIS ISN'T TOMORROW, BUT IT'S COMING IN THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS, WE WOULD HAVE A POPULATION EXPLOSION CLOSER TO 300,000 PEOPLE. 
          THAT'S THE LOTS WE'RE AWARE OF. THAT'S THE LOTS. WE'RE AWARE OF. ANYTHING, ANYTHING NEW THAT'S COMING THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE MONSTER CHIP PLANT THAT'S BEING BUILT IN GRIMES COUNTY NOW, AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO TO THE POPULATION AROUND HERE. SO THESE ARE THE IMPACTS THAT WE'RE FEELING. AND THESE ARE HAVING TREMENDOUS IMPACTS ON THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM. I KNOW THERE ARE GREAT IMPACTS TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THAT'S NOT FOR OUR DISCUSSION TODAY THAT WILL BE COMING. WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM TODAY WITH THE JUDGES IN THE DA. BUT WE KNOW THAT THE SHERIFF HAS TREMENDOUS CHALLENGES AHEAD OF HIM, AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT IN THE FUTURE. I'D JUST LIKE YOU TO INCLUDE US ON THE WHENEVER YOU'RE INTRODUCING COURTS FOR THE COURT SUPPORT STAFF AND THE BAILIFFS. OH, SURE. YES, SIR. 
          ABSOLUTELY. YES. YOU'RE ALL PART OF THAT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. I WILL LET JUDGE CHANEY SPEAK TO HIS SITUATION. I DO WANT TO COMPLIMENT JUDGE CHANEY. HE'S ONE OF THE TOP JUDGES IN THE STATE FOR TAKING CARE OF HIS COVID BACKLOG. HE'S DONE REALLY GOOD AT KNOCKING IT DOWN. 
          BUT NOW HE'S BEING HIT AND THE OTHER JUDGES ARE BEING HIT BY THE GROWTH. AND NOW THE EXTRA COURT CASES THAT ARE HITTING THEM. I'LL LET THE JUDGE SPEAK TO THAT AND THE DA SPEAK TO THAT. I THINK I'VE COVERED IT ALL. I HAVE NICK AND SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE FROM SADAKO THAT AFTER JUDGE CHANEY AND DA WHITMORE GO, THEY WILL COME UP AND DO A PRESENTATION ON THE REVISED DESIGN SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE, THE CHANGES WE'VE MADE TO THE JUDICIAL TOWER, AND THEY'LL THROW OUT THE CURRENT PRICING AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE THE ISSUE IS WE HAVE ONLY DESIGNED THIS BUILDING UP TO WHAT'S CALLED A DESIGN DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS. 
          YOU NEED TO GO BEYOND THAT TO WHAT'S CALLED CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS IF YOU WANT TO GET ACCURATE PRICING. SO IF THIS BUILDING IS IN OUR IMMINENT FUTURE, WE NEED TO RELEASE THEM TO DO ADDITIONAL DRAWINGS BETWEEN IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR EIGHT MONTHS SO WE CAN GET MORE ACCURATE PRICING BY THE END OF THE YEAR. WE TRY TO STAY AHEAD OF SOME OF THIS GROWTH THAT IS HAPPENING. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS TODAY TO LOOK AT THE NEW BUILDING. THE CHANGES TO THE BUILDING. THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR SINCE BEFORE COVID STARTED, SO IT ISN'T SOMETHING NEW WE DREAMED UP YESTERDAY. I CAN ALSO TELL YOU THAT MANY YEARS AGO, BEFORE COVID, WE DID HAVE U.S. MARSHALS COME AND REVIEW THIS BUILDING FOR SAFETY CONCERNS AND HOW TO MOVE INMATES AND ALL THAT. AND WE PASSED WITH FLYING COLORS. SO I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS DESIGN. I THINK BMW AND WE DID A NICE JOB ON, ON FIGURING OUT PATHWAYS OF EMPLOYEES VERSUS INMATES VERSUS THE PUBLIC. IT'S A VERY NICELY DONE AND WELL THOUGHT OUT BUILDING, AND IT HAS EXPANSION. WE CAN ADD A WING ON TO IT AND ADD 
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THREE MORE COURTROOMS. SO ULTIMATELY, IF YOU INCLUDE THE 400 SEAT JURY ASSEMBLY ROOM, YOU COULD HAVE TEN COURTROOMS IN THAT BUILDING. IT ALSO HOUSES THE ENTIRE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND IT HIRES BOTH HOUSES, BOTH OF THE CLERKS, FOR ALL OF THEIR NEEDS, ALL IN ONE BUILDING. IT BASICALLY TAKES CARE OF SIX DEPARTMENTS IN ONE BUILDING. I BELIEVE THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. JURY ASSEMBLY AS WELL. JURY ASSEMBLY. THERE IS A 400 SEAT AND WE WILL SET THAT ROOM UP, OR WOULD SET THAT ROOM UP TO ACT AS ANOTHER COURTROOM. IT COULD BE A VERY THAT COULD BE A VERY. IF YOU HAVE A REALLY BIG TRIAL, IT WOULD GO IN THERE BECAUSE IT CAN SEAT AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE. MOST OF THE OTHER COURTROOMS WOULD STICK IN THE 100 HUNDRED PERSON RANGE TO, TO SEAT PEOPLE. YOU'D HAVE A BIG 400 SEAT ONE IF YOU NEED IT. IT'S ALSO JURY ASSEMBLY. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET MULTIPLE USE OUT OF EVERYTHING. OF COURSE, EVERYTHING THAT I TRY TO DO, WE LOOK FOR EXPANSION. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE THOUGHT AHEAD IN THIS COUNTY. AND WE BOUGHT LAND AND WE HAVE LAND AND WE'RE NOT LANDLOCKED ANYWHERE. WE CAN EXPAND ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS. I THINK WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THAT. COMPARED TO MOST PLACES THAT THEY DID NOT THINK AHEAD AND THEY FINISH A BUILDING. IT'S FULL IN A YEAR AND THEY GOT NO WAY TO EXPAND. THAT'S THAT HAPPENS A LOT EVERYWHERE. SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY ON THIS. I THINK I'M GOING TO PASS THIS OVER TO JUDGE CHANEY AND. WE CAN GO FROM THERE. GOOD. WELL, TECHNOLOGY. OH, OKAY. OKAY, JUDGE. PAGE DOWN. OKAY. ARE Y'ALL'S MONITORS NOT WORKING? OKAY. JUST TELL ME WHEN Y'ALL ARE READY. I CAN GO AHEAD AND START. GOOD MORNING JUDGE. GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONERS. JUDGE DUHON AND JUDGE MATHIS AND I WERE AT A JUVENILE BOARD MEETING HERE RECENTLY, AND I WAS GOING OVER AND ME AND JUDGE MATHIS WERE KIND OF DISCUSSING HOW WE SEE THE TSUNAMI COMING IN THE JUDICIARY. AND JUDGE DUHON MENTIONED THAT HE WAS GOING TO THEY WERE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS AT COMMISSIONERS COURT TODAY. SO I ASKED IF I COULD KIND OF KIND OF MUSCLE MY WAY IN, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS SOME NUMBERS WITH YOU GUYS TO KIND OF MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE UNDERSTANDABLE WHERE OUR POSITION IS. JUDGE MATHIS, UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S WE'RE PRETTY MUCH UNITED IN OUR THOUGHTS ON THIS. AND SO JUST THOUGHT I WOULD I WOULD GET THAT OUT THERE AS WELL. OKAY. I LOOK AT COMMISSIONER. HE'S ASLEEP. ANYWAY. THAT'S FUNNY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, OKAY, SO THIS IS THE THING Y'ALL SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF YOUR SENATOR HUFFMAN. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TWO SENATORS HERE, SENATOR HUFFMAN AND SENATOR CORKER, AND THEY'RE BOTH REALLY INCREDIBLE PEOPLE. 
          I'M ONE OF THE FEW DISTRICT JUDGES THAT PROBABLY APPRECIATES SENATOR HUFFMAN. 
          THE REASON I APPRECIATE HER IS THAT WHEN WE NEEDED ANOTHER JUDGE, I HAD NEVER MET HER BEFORE. I WAS ACTUALLY AT BECKENDORF FARM. SHE WAS HAVING AN EVENT THERE. AND I WENT AND I GRABBED HER EAR. JUDGE DUHON WAS THERE AS WELL, AND WE SAID, LOOK, WE NEED HELP. WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY STRUGGLING. THIS WAS AFTER COVID. AND AT FIRST SHE SAID, WELL, LET ME LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. AND SHE WAS REALLY EFFICIENT. SHE MUST HAVE CALLED. AND THAT DAY UP IN FRONT, YOU GOT UP IN FRONT OF ALL THE ATTENDEES AT THIS AT THIS LITTLE GET TOGETHER AND SAID, YOU GOT IT, YOU GOT YOUR BENCH. AND SO, I MEAN, IT WAS THAT IT WAS THAT SIMPLE. AND I, I THINK SHE JUST REALIZED THE NUMBERS WERE THERE WHEN SHE MADE THE PHONE CALL. SO I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THAT. BUT THEN SENATOR HUFFMAN GOES ON TO PRETTY MUCH EVERY OTHER DISTRICT JUDGE IN THE IN THE STATE BECAUSE SHE REALIZED THAT. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO THROW ANY DISTRICT UNDER THE BUS, BUT HARRIS COUNTY, IN HER MIND, WAS NOT STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE AND NOT DOING THEIR JOB. AND SO SHE CAME UP WITH ALL THESE RULES THAT SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THIS NEW REPORTING AND DISTRICT JUDGES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB. AND BEFORE THIS REPORTING, I HAD NO IDEA WHERE I STOOD AS FAR AS THE THE, YOU KNOW, THE WORK BEING DONE IN WALLER COUNTY OR IN ANY OTHER JUDGE WHERE THEY STOOD. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF HARRIS COUNTY DID THIS ON THEIR OWN TO APPEASE HER, OR IF I THINK THIS IS WHERE IT'S GOING. AND I'VE WARNED LIZ OF THIS, BUT EVERY. THIS IS A HARRIS COUNTY DISTRICT COURT'S. THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE WEB PAGES OF A DISTRICT CRIMINAL COURT JUDGE IN HARRIS COUNTY. AND YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THERE. AND I WOULD LOVE. EVEN IF THIS IS NOT REQUIRED, I'M GOING TO. I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET THIS UP ON MY WEB PAGE AT SOME POINT. 
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BUT YOU CAN SEE IT HAS. EVERYBODY THAT'S IN JAIL, OUT OF JAIL HAS THE ACTIVE CASES PENDING AGE OF CASELOAD. SO YOU'RE MOVING YOUR CASES CLEARANCE RATE. THAT'S THE BIG ONE RIGHT NOW THAT THAT THEY HAVE ALL THE JUDGES ACROSS THE STATE LOOKING AT. VERY PROUD OF MY REGIONAL JUDGE. I JUST HEARD NEWS. HE GOT HE GOT REAPPOINTED BY GOVERNOR ABBOTT. HE NOTIFIED EVERYBODY IN IN HIS REGION OUT OF 61 JUDGES THAT, HEY, YOU NEED TO GET YOUR CLEARANCE RATES GOING. AND SO WHEN WE GOT THAT INFORMATION, I THINK WE'RE ACCORDING TO OCA, THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER REGIONAL JUDGE THAT DID THAT. SO WE WERE ABLE. THIS IS THIS REALLY DOESN'T COUNT FOR JUDGE MATHIS AT THE TIME, BECAUSE THIS ALL CAME IN RIGHT BEFORE HE CAME IN. BUT ME AND MY SISTER CAME IN AT ONE AND TWO, TIED FOR ONE AND TWO IN THE REGION. MOVING CASES. AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, WE GOT ALL OUR OUR BACKLOG PRETTY MUCH OUT OF THE WAY. NOW WE'RE JUST KIND OF WORKING ON NEW STUFF. AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THIS IS KIND OF SCARY. SO I JUST LITERALLY TALKED TO LIZ, OUR DISTRICT CLERK, ABOUT CASELOADS. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND, I'M A I'M A CIRCUIT JUDGE. I'M ONLY HERE 60% OF THE TIME. 40% OF THE TIME I'M IN GRIMES COUNTY. OKAY. THESE HARRIS COUNTY JUDGES, THEY'RE IN HARRIS COUNTY ALL THE TIME. 
          NOT ONLY THAT, THIS IS JUST A DISTRICT CRIMINAL JUDGE. THAT'S ALL. HE HAS A CRIMINAL CASES. I HAVE CIVIL CASES. JUDGE MATHIS HAS GIVEN ME SOME RELIEF ON A LOT OF THAT. BUT EVEN JUST MY CIVIL CASES, ACCORDING TO LIZ, I HAVE HOW MANY? LIZ? 900 CRIMINAL, 970. SOME CRIMINAL CASES, 960 CRIMINAL, 787. AND I'M STILL I'M TIED FOR 15TH WHEN I'M AT 15TH ON, ON ON CLEARANCE RATE. AND I SHUT MY COURTROOM DOWN FOR THREE MONTHS BECAUSE WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE. SO I MOVE CASES. OKAY. I'M REAL PROUD OF THAT. BUT IN JUDGE MATHIS DOES TOO. AND, AND I'M, AND I'M SURE JUDGE DODSON'S GOING TO DO IT. MY SISTER DID AS WELL. BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT LOOK AT THE CASES OVER HERE TO THE LEFT 900 AND I THINK THE MOST THAT'S THERE IS 1028 CASES. I'M LOOKING AT 1700 CASES. I'M TRYING TO MOVE. OKAY. EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO GO. I WENT FROM FIRST TO 15TH. YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN AND I'M FINE WITH THAT. I'LL HOLD THE LINE THE BEST I CAN. BUT THAT'S JUST BECAUSE OF GROWTH, SHEER GROWTH. AND THAT BRINGS US TO SOME SOME OTHER PROBLEMS THAT THAT THAT HAS COME UP IS WALLER COUNTY IS LIMITED ON, ON COURT SPACE. WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW WELL, WE'RE WE'RE ONE OF THE COUNTIES THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE COURT IN THE CITY LIMITS. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE MANY BIG BUILDINGS IN THE CITY LIMITS OF HEMPSTEAD. THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FROM THE GET GO. AND SO AND THE REASON IT'S IMPORTANT IS YOU HAVE TO PICK JURIES, RIGHT. AND JURIES NEED ROOM TO PICK, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY ON CERTAIN TYPE CASES. I DO A LOT OF SEXUAL ASSAULT OF CHILDREN CASES OR MURDER CASES. SOME PEOPLE JUST CAN'T HANDLE BEING ON THAT JURY. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU ADD THE STRIKES. EVERY JUDGE, EVERY ATTORNEY GETS TEN STRIKES. SO THAT'S 20 PEOPLE MINIMUM, RIGHT? THEN YOU GOT TO ADD ALTERNATES. THEY GET TWO, FOUR MORE STRIKES FOR ALTERNATES. OKAY, SO NOW YOU'RE AT 24. NOW YOU GOT TO DEAL WITH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE EXEMPT THAT HAVE ISSUES NOW, YOU KNOW? SO IN OTHER WORDS, AND THE SAD PART ABOUT IT IS I'LL SEND OUT 300 NOTICES AND I'LL GET MAYBE 70 OR 80 PEOPLE SHOW UP. OKAY. SO BUT WITH THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LOT OF ROOM. THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS JURY ASSEMBLY ROOM. SO THAT'S RIGHT. NOW WE'RE WORKING. YOU KNOW, I HAVE FOUR JUDGES THAT ARE RUNNING OUT OF MY COURTROOM RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHARE A COURT SPACE BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY BIG ENOUGH COURTROOM TO DEAL WITH IT. AND AND THIS IS JUST MY CASELOAD, 1700. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT JUDGE MATHIS IS OR, OR THE JUDGE DUHON, I MEAN, NOT JUDGE. JUDGE. HEY, WE NEED ALL THE JUDGES THAT WANT TO COME ON. 
          RIGHT. BUT ANYWAY. DODSON BUT ANYWAY, WE WE REALLY DO NEED TO FOCUS ON THIS BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE. AND I GET IT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD NOT WANT YOUR JOB BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S SCREAMING FOR MONEY AND THERE'S ONLY FINITE MONEY. OKAY, I GET THAT. I DRIVE DOWN MORTON ROAD COMING TO WORK EVERY DAY WITH THIS GUY. AND I, I HIT A POTHOLE THE OTHER DAY THAT WAS SO BAD BECAUSE THE WATER HAD WASHED IT OUT THAT MY, MY, MY EIGHT YEAR OLD THOUGHT WE WERE IN A CAR WRECK. OKAY, SO I GET IT. AND Y'ALL ARE WORKING ON THAT. YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO, BUT SOMETIMES THE JUDICIARY GETS LOST BECAUSE GOOD PEOPLE USUALLY DON'T GO TO COURT, RIGHT? IT'S USUALLY KIND OF THE BAD PEOPLE, BUT WE GOT TO KEEP THE BAD PEOPLE FROM FROM REALLY KIND OF HURTING THE GOOD PEOPLE, RIGHT? AND YOU CAN SEE AT THESE, THESE CASE LEVELS, JUST MY CRIMINAL LOAN IS, IS SIMILAR TO THESE HARRIS COUNTY JUDGES. AND THOSE ARE FELONIES. THOSE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE MURDER CASES, SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES, SEXUAL ASSAULT OF CHILDREN CASES, PEOPLE DELIVERING DRUGS. I GOT CALLED THREE IN THE MORNING THE OTHER DAY, AND HE WOKE UP FIRST, AND THEN THEY CALLED ME ABOUT HAVING TO HAVE A, A WARRANT FOR HOW MANY KILOS WERE COMING THROUGH? THREE, THREE KILOS ON A TRUCK. AND SO, 
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YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS JUST KIND OF WHERE THE SITUATION IS. AND THE PROBLEM WITH ALL THIS IS THE, THE JUDGE IS KIND OF GETTING FULL. I MEAN, I MEAN, THE JAILS GETTING FULL, RIGHT? I HAVE THIS PROBLEM IN, IN, IN GRIMES COUNTY, THEY HAVE A SMALL JAIL. SO THE SHERIFF, THE D A AND THE DEFENSE ATTORNEYS AND WE'RE ALL GETTING TOGETHER. OKAY. WHICH DRUG DEALER DO WE TRUST TO BE OUT ON BOND? OKAY. YOU KNOW, CAN WE TRUST THIS PERSON THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UP FOR MURDER TO BE OUT ON BOND? OKAY. AND PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT WE'RE NOT CHINA. AND THAT'S A GOOD THING, RIGHT? BECAUSE IN CHINA, IF I DIDN'T LIKE ALLEN AND HE DIDN'T, HE DID SOMETHING WRONG, THEN I CAN JUST GO GET ALLEN AND THE, YOU KNOW, SHERIFF, GO GET OUT AND THROW HIM IN JAIL. AND WE MIGHT HAVE A TRIAL ONE DAY. MAYBE NEVER. OKAY. BUT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO A SPEEDY TRIAL HERE IN OUR COUNTRY, WHICH IS A GOOD THING, RIGHT? BECAUSE ALLEGED VICTIMS DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT HANGING OVER THEIR HEAD FOR MANY, MANY YEARS ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S GOING TO BE JUSTICE GIVEN OR WE DON'T HAVE A PERSON THAT'S WRONGLY ACCUSED SITTING IN JAIL, MAYBE FOREVER. RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE REASON OUR SYSTEM IS SO GREAT. BUT BECAUSE IT IS WE HAVE RULES TO PROTECT THAT. AND PART OF THE RULES ARE IF WE CAN'T GET GRAND JURIES TO GET A TRUE BILL ON SOMEONE WITHIN A 90 DAY PERIOD, OKAY, THEN I, AS A MATTER OF LAW, HAVE TO PUT THEM OUT ON A PERSONAL BOND, WHETHER THEY'RE A MURDERER, WHETHER IT'S SEXUAL ASSAULT OF CHILDREN. AND SO THAT'S A PROBLEM. OKAY. AND SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THE SYSTEM ROLLING THE RIGHT WAY, THEN WE BECOME THE BOTTLENECK. I KNOW THE SHERIFF'S LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE BECAUSE WE'RE FILLING UP. YOU KNOW, IF IT'S CHICKEN OR THE EGG, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF WE BUILD A COURT SYSTEM AND WE GET THE JUDGES IN THERE NOW, WE CAN MOVE THEM OUT OF THE THE JAIL. MAYBE WE DON'T NEED AS MUCH AS MANY BEDS. RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BIG ISSUE. I, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THAT THERE'S A. AND THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY KIND OF TOUGH IS THE LEGISLATURE ONLY MEETS EVERY TWO YEARS. 
          OKAY. SO IF WE DON'T GET THE THE JUDGE APPOINTED, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVEN THIS YEAR THEN THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT FOUR YEARS FOR THAT JUDGE APPOINTMENT. BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO GIVE US ANOTHER JUDGE IF WE HAVE NO PLACE TO PUT THAT JUDGE. OKAY. 
          AND SO I'M GETTING SOME RELIEF. I'M FINALLY GOING TO GET MORE COURT SPACE TO MOVE MORE CASES, BECAUSE WE'RE OPENING UP HERE ON THE THIRD FLOOR IN JULY. THAT'S GOING TO BRING OVER HERE OUR NEW JUDGE DODSON IN IN MATHIS. YOU KNOW CAN CAN WORK ON THE BIGGER COURTROOM. Y'ALL HAVE BEEN GRACIOUS TO ALLOW US TO USE THIS COURTROOM. WE HAD A TRIAL HERE. WE HAVE THE SMALLER COURTROOM COMING ONLINE. WE STILL HAVE. BUT EVEN WITH ALL THAT, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, IF WE DON'T GET JUDGES, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE. AND IF WE IF WE AND WE CAN'T GET JUDGES UNLESS WE GET THE BUILDING IS THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. SO I'LL SHUT UP NOW BECAUSE SHAWNEE. I EVEN TOLD SHAWNEE HE'S GOING TO STAND UP HERE AND SAY, SHUT UP. BUT I KEPT GOING. 
          SO. SO DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME BEFORE? BEFORE I SIT DOWN OR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          YOU BET. AFTERNOON, JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS COURT. ALAN. DON'T WORRY, I GOT YOU. YEAH. 
          SINCE 2020, WE'VE HAD A ROUGHLY 25 TO 30% INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF CRIMINAL CASES WE FILE EVERY YEAR. THAT'S PRETTY STAGGERING. AND THAT'S ONLY WITH AN ADDITIONAL 15,000 PEOPLE OVER WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IN 2020. I'D SAY SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE, JUDGE, IS THAT RIGHT? IMAGINE HOW MANY MORE CASES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 300 000 PEOPLE AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WE'RE GOING TO NEED AT LEAST A DISTRICT COURT JUDGE FOR EVERY 75,000 PEOPLE. THAT'S WHERE THE LEGISLATURE LIKES TO DRAW THAT LINE, WHERE IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN YOU HIT 75,000, THEY'LL GIVE YOU A DEDICATED THEY'LL GIVE YOU A DEDICATED DISTRICT COURT JUDGE. THEY WANT IT. THAT'S THEIR GOAL WHEN THEY'RE DOING THEIR CALCULATIONS IS THEY WANT TO HAVE ONE FOR EVERY 75,000. WE'RE GOING TO NEED 2 TO 3 DISTRICT COURT JUDGES BEFORE TOO LONG. AND RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT JUDGE CHANEY, WHO'S FANTASTIC, ONE OF THE BEST JUDGES I'VE EVER WORKED WITH, LOVE WORKING WITH HIM. BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE AND WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THE SPACE TO DO IT. WE'VE ONLY GOT ONE COURTROOM RIGHT NOW WHERE IT IS PARTICULARLY SAFE TO DO CRIMINAL CASES. WE CAN'T HAVE A CRIMINAL DOCKET WHERE WE HAVE INMATES ANYWHERE BUT THE 5 OR 6 DISTRICT COURT COURTROOM. WELL, THAT MEANS THAT WHEN OTHER COURTS ARE USING THAT SPACE, JUDGE CHANEY CAN'T. AND SURE, THERE'S A COUPLE WEEKS OUT OF THE MONTH WHERE HE'S GOING TO BE IN GRIMES COUNTY, BUT STILL, THAT'S LEAVING A LOT OF TIME THAT OTHER COURTS COULD BE MOVING CRIMINAL CASES WHERE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO SO. AND. 
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SURE, THE THIRD FLOOR WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE FOR SOME LOWER, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME MISDEMEANOR CASES. BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO TRY TO HAVE A FELONY TRIAL UP THERE WHERE WE'VE GOT TO BE EXTRA MINDFUL OF SECURITY OF NOT ONLY THE PARTICIPANTS, THE VICTIMS, BUT COURT STAFF. IT'S NOT A GOOD SITUATION. I THINK THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WOULD AGREE WITH ME THAT I'M SHAKING MY HEAD. YES. YEAH. SO THAT'S NOT A SITUATION WHERE WE WANT TO BE IN WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE TO MOVE AN INMATE OVER HERE, MONITOR AN INMATE. WE HAVE NOWHERE TO HOLD AN INMATE IN ORDER TO HAVE A FELONY TRIAL IN THIS BUILDING. IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE. THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN DO IT IS THE 506, AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE SPACE. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A CAN WE KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD? IT'S AN IMMEDIATE PROBLEM BECAUSE BY THE TIME THIS BUILDING GETS BUILT, WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO NEED THOSE DISTRICT COURT JUDGES. MY STAFF, THANKS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE FOR US. WE'VE GIVEN A LITTLE BIT OF BREATHING ROOM. WE'RE NO LONGER STACKED THREE PEOPLE TO AN OFFICE, THANKS TO THE ADDITION OF THE THE MODULAR BUILDINGS OVER THE 506, WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE THE CIVIL DIVISION OUT. AND THEN NEXT MONTH, WE'LL MOVE THEM UNDER THE THIRD FLOOR HERE, AND I'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE SOME STAFF OUT OF MY CURRENT BUILDING INTO THE INTO THE THREE WIDE. AND THEN WE WILL NOT HAVE TWO PEOPLE TO EVERY OFFICE, BUT THE SITUATION OUR STAFF WISE IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GROW RAPIDLY, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IS. AND YOU KNOW, WITH SPACE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US, WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO BE HITTING THAT CEILING AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE SPACE THAT'S IN THIS BUILDING DESIGNED TO BE ABLE TO FUNCTION WHEN WE'RE HAVING TO SERVICE A POPULATION OF 250 TO 300,000 PEOPLE. 
          THERE'S JUST NO WAY TO GET THE JOB DONE AND PROTECT THE COMMUNITY. WITH OUR STAFFING AND THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE. WHEN WE HAVE THAT KIND OF VOLUME THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR WHAT I ANTICIPATE WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING LIKE 2 TO 3, FOUR YEARS FROM NOW. YEAH. WELL, OF COURSE I'M ON BOARD. BUT FOR THE PUBLIC, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE FLIP SIDE OF LIKE, I HEAR YOUR ACTS, I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN A CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE KEPT GOING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT GIVE THE FLIP SIDE OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE CHOOSE TO SAY, HEY, WE CAN'T DO THIS, OR WE CAN'T BITE THE BULLET RIGHT NOW, WHAT THE COUNTY LOOKS LIKE. AND AS FAR AS CRIME AND DIFFERENT THINGS OF THAT SUCH. SO WITHOUT ADDITIONAL COURT SPACE, LET ME GIVE YOU THE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO RIGHT NOW, IT IS FEASIBLY POSSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE 24 JURY TRIALS PER YEAR. AND IN THAT COURTROOM IN THE 506 COURTROOM, WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, JUDGE JUST SAID 900 SOME ODD FELONY CASES ACTIVE RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE THERE'S ANOTHER 1300 MISDEMEANORS. ELKIN HAS 300 FELONY CASES AS WELL. YEAH. AND ANOTHER 300 FELONY CASES IN ELTON'S COURT. SO I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S 232 WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT YESTERDAY. BUT. BETWEEN THE TWO COURTROOMS, THAT'S VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF TRIALS THAT WE CAN HAVE FOR A LOT OF CASES. NOW WE'RE ABLE TO PLEA OUT A VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE CASES. I'D SAY 98% OF CASES PLEA. BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 98% OF, YOU KNOW, 1300 1500, AND THEN YOU ADD IN MISDEMEANORS, IT'S IT GETS REALLY BAD REALLY FAST. WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE CASES. AND THE THREAT OF A TRIAL AND THE ADDITIONAL PUNISHMENT THAT THEY'LL GET IF THEY FORCE US TO TRIAL IS WHAT MOVES CASES. THEY'VE GOT TO BE, YOU KNOW, DEFENDANTS HAVE TO BE SCARED OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET ON THE BACK END, OR ELSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PLEA, THEY'LL TAKE THEIR CHANCES. SO THAT'S WHY THE SYSTEM WORKS, IS THE THREAT OF GOING TO TRIAL AND GOING TO TRIAL AND GETTING, YOU KNOW, SENTENCES THAT SCARE PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM WANT TO PLAY OUT WITHOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S CASES DON'T MOVE. SO WE NEED THE THREAT OF GOING TO TRIAL. WE NEED TO TRY CASES. WE NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LET THE COMMUNITY SHOW PEOPLE WHO VIOLATE THE LAW WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT AND GIVE THEM THE PUNISHMENTS THAT THEY DESERVE, BECAUSE THAT DISCOURAGES PEOPLE FROM COMING. 
          AND IF WE WANT THIS TO CONTINUE TO BE THE SAFE COMMUNITY THAT IT IS, THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS A VITAL PART OF THAT. AND AS DIFFICULT AS IT IS, WE'VE JUST GOT TO BITE THE BULLET AND DO SOME THINGS ANY MORE. ANY OTHER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS? DID I ANSWER WHAT YOU WERE GOING FOR, COMMISSIONER? OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. I'LL JUST I'LL ADD THIS BEFORE. AND I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE BUILDINGS, 
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RIGHT? YES, YES. YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF BRING IT ALL BACK AROUND. LIKE ANDY WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, I SEE PEOPLE IT'S FUNNY. I RUN INTO PEOPLE WHO I SEE A COMMENT ONLINE AND PEOPLE THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE JUST PULLING OUT OF OUR BUTT AT THE LAST MINUTE. AND IT'S LIKE, THAT COULD NOT BE FARTHER FROM THE TRUTH. THIS IS A PROCESS. WE STARTED PRE COVID AND WE ARE TRYING TO LOOK DOWN THE ROAD. WE'RE LOOKING AT GROWTH FORECASTS. WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO GROW AND WE WERE TRYING TO ANTICIPATE THAT. WE KNEW WE NEEDED A NEW COURTHOUSE. 
          WE KNEW WE NEEDED A NEW JAIL. YOU WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL OF THOSE THINGS. WE'VE GOT PRECINCT TWO AND PRECINCT THREE, WHICH ARE NOW UNDERWAY. THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE KNEW HAD TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH IN THIS TOWN. BUT NOW WE HAVE A LEVEL OF GROWTH THAT HAS FAR EXCEEDED ANY FORECAST. IT IS EXPONENTIAL. WHAT SCARES ME IS WE HAVE 8000 LOTS UNDER DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW. WHAT ABOUT THE LOTS THAT WE AREN'T EVEN AWARE OF? WHAT ABOUT THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE CLOSING TODAY ON THREE, 4 OR 500 ACRES? THAT WILL THEN BECOME THE NEXT 2000, 3000, 5000 LOT SUBDIVISIONS, AND WE CANNOT TELL THEM? NO, I JUST POSTED ON THIS JUST A DAY AGO. IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO REGULATE GROWTH, WE DO NOT HAVE ZONING AUTHORITY. WE CANNOT TELL YOU WE CANNOT BUILD A SUBDIVISION, YOU KNOW, SO THE DEVELOPERS IS COMING, PEOPLE ARE COMING, AND IT'S AT A LEVEL SO HIGH THAT IF WE DON'T THINK AHEAD AND PLAN, I MEAN, THIS BUILDING IT, WE DIDN'T JUST DECIDE, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S BUILD AN EIGHT STORY BUILDING. AND ACTUALLY IT'S REALLY FIVE LEVELS. THE, YOU KNOW, THE COURTROOMS, DON'T FORGET, WHEN YOU BUILD A COURTHOUSE, THE COURTROOMS HAVE HIGHER CEILINGS LIKE YOU SEE IN THIS ROOM. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE JUST SAID, LET'S JUST BUILD A HUGE BUILDING. WE ACTUALLY DID PROGRAMING. WE SAT DOWN WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS. WE SAT DOWN WITH EXPERTS AND LOOKED AT HOW LARGE DOES THIS BUILDING CAN BE SO THAT WE DON'T BUILD A BUILDING AND THEN FIVE YEARS LATER GO, WELL, WE NEED TO ADD ON, DOESN'T EVERYBODY GET FRUSTRATED ABOUT THAT? DON'T WE ALL DEAL WITH THAT? DON'T WE DRIVE ON FREEWAYS EVERY DAY THAT WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR 20 YEARS, AND THEN THEY FINALLY FINISH WITHIN THREE YEARS? IT'S BUMPER TO BUMPER. WE'RE LIKE, WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST MAKE THIS THREE LANES OR FOUR LANES TO BEGIN WITH? YOU KNOW, WE ALL SEE THAT. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE ARE SMART AS POSSIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO SPENDING MONEY IN THE LONG TERM FORECAST, BECAUSE THE TAX BASE IS GOING TO GROW, HOUSES ARE COMING IN THAT EXPANDS THE TAX BASE. THERE'LL BE MORE COMMERCIAL THAT EXPANDS THE TAX BASE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE TO HAVE TO USE A LITTLE BIT OF VISION TO LOOK DOWN THE ROAD. BECAUSE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS IF WE DON'T, WE WILL BE IN A SITUATION THAT I PROMISE YOU, NOBODY WILL BE HAPPY WITH IT BECAUSE WE BUILT A BRAND NEW JAIL JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, AND WE DOUBLED THE CAPACITY OF OUR OLD JAIL. WE. 
          THAT WAS AT THAT TIME WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD GET US TO 2030, 2040. WE'RE ALREADY NEARING CAPACITY ON OUR JAIL. SO THINK ABOUT THE LEVEL OF GROWTH. HOW DO WE BUILD A BUILDING THAT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT, THAT WILL GET US DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'LL GO OVER THIS IN A SECOND WITH THE AMOUNT OF COURTROOMS IN THIS BUILDING, JURY ASSEMBLY OFFICE SPACE, IT IS IT IS A SIZABLE BUILDING, BUT IT IS A BUILDING. YOU KNOW, THIS BUILDING IS UNIQUE BECAUSE IT SEPARATES THE PUBLIC AND THE EMPLOYEES AND THE INMATES. WHO REMEMBERS JUST A FEW YEARS AGO SEEING INMATES IN CHAINS BEING BROUGHT BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THROUGH THE OLD WALLER COUNTY COURTHOUSE, WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITHIN ARM'S REACH AND BRINGING THEM IN FOR FOR A DOCKET THAT IS NOT SAFE. THIS IS GOING TO BE A BUILDING THAT IS GOING TO BE SAFE FOR EVERYBODY. AND IT'S CONNECTED TO THE JAIL. SO THERE ARE ALL OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS THAT COME IN. IT'S JUST NOT AN ADMINISTRATOR ABILITY. AND WHAT JUDGE YOU AND THE DA BOTH MENTIONED THAT, AND I HADN'T HEARD ANY COMMENTS TILL YOU JUST SAID THAT. IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, THE RAMIFICATIONS FOR THE COUNTY, 
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IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH INMATES. THE FACT THAT Y'ALL ARE PLANNING THIS WITH INMATES IN MIND WITH THEIR INGRESS AND EGRESS ROUTES. THERE ARE RAMIFICATIONS FOR NOT HAVING DONE THAT. IT'S NOT JUST THE CASE LOAD. THERE CAN BE SANCTIONS PUT ON THE COUNTY FOR NOT PROPERLY HANDLING INMATES TO AND FROM A COURTHOUSE AND PLANNING FOR THAT. THE FACT THAT THIS PLAN IS LOCATED NEAR THE JAIL, THAT THAT'S PART OF THE CONSIDERATION THAT TAKES AWAY POTENTIAL MISTRIAL ASPECTS. ANYTHING THAT COULD DO WITH THAT. AND THERE ARE STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR DEALING WITH INMATES IN IN A COURTHOUSE. SO THERE ARE ACTUAL RAMIFICATIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO HERE. BUT IT'S MORE THAN JUST CASELOAD. THERE'S A GENUINE NEED FOR THIS COUNTY TO FACILITATE SOMETHING THAT TAKES THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. I JUST WANTED TO EXPAND UPON THAT. YES, SIR. JUDGE, CAN I SAY ONE THING? BECAUSE I'M GOING TO HAVE TO RULE BEFORE DANNY, HAS ANY OF THIS CHANGED SINCE THE LAST WEEK OR TWO? SIR, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT Y'ALL SAW. I'LL TRY AND GET ONLINE TONIGHT. I'VE GOT TO GO TO A CONFERENCE IN SAN ANTONIO FOR THE TEXARKANA BOARD. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK, JUDGE, YOU SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT A SENSE OF SECURITY, THERE IS NO QUALITY OF LIFE IN WALLER COUNTY. YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WE'VE WORKED EXTREMELY WELL AND THANK THE SHERIFF AND EVERYBODY IN THAT DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE WE'VE CONTINUED TO ADD DEPUTIES AND INVESTIGATORS. THAT'S ONLY THE FIRST STEP IN THE WHOLE PROCESS. WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO LACK, YOU KNOW, LOCK UP BAD ACTORS, BUT YOU HAVE TO ALLOW THEM THEIR DAY IN COURT TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND SO WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WE CAN'T KEEP LOADING THE MULE, I MEAN, THE WAGON AND NOT ADDRESS THE SITUATION WITH THE MULE. THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP GROWING. YOU KNOW, WE YOU MIGHT SLOW DOWN OR SOMETHING, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP. AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THOSE 85,000 LOTS ARE COMING. 
          AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT ALL OF THEM. WE HAVE TO DO THIS. THIS IS NOT NOT A FUN THING. I DO THINK I AM IN FAVOR OF GOING FORWARD TO, TO, TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE DESIGN PLANS. I KNOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THOSE BEFORE WE PRESENT THEM TO US. AND I, I DO WANT TO SAY, I THINK YOU'LL AND I'M SURE YOU'LL GET INTO THIS. I DO THINK WE OUGHT TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT SERIOUSLY LOOK AT CONSIDERING BUILDING OUT THE DA'S ENTIRE FLOOR BECAUSE IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE CHEAPER THAN IT IS TO DO IT WHEN YOU'RE IN CONSTRUCTION. AND IT'S ONE THING TO BUILD OUT, LIKE WE DID HERE, THE THIRD FLOOR, BECAUSE IT WAS COMPLETELY VACANT. IT'S ANOTHER THING TO TRY AND GO AND REMODEL OR BUILD OUT WHEN YOU'RE SHARING THE SAME FLOOR. 
          AND SO IT WOULD BE A HUGE INCONVENIENCE FOR THEM TO TRY AND SIT THERE AND WORK WHEN YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, POWER TOOLS AND CONSTRUCTION WORKERS IN AND OUT. AND SO I, I KNOW IT'S NOT A MUCH MORE IN THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS. WE STILL HAVE OTHER FLOORS THAT WE CAN BUILD OUT. BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. AND I'M GOING TO HEAD TO SAN ANTONIO. THANK YOU. MANY NOISE COMPLAINTS CAME FROM THE RENOVATION OF THE THIRD FLOOR. 
          TRUST ME. YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, I JUST WANT I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THIS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME AND THOUGHT HAS GONE. YES, SIR. TO THESE BUILDINGS, ESPECIALLY THIS ONE. SO IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE'RE JUST HAPHAZARDLY PUTTING TOGETHER AND HOPING, YOU KNOW, CROSSING OUR FINGERS. WE ARE REALLY DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BE VERY DELIBERATE BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN. IF, YOU KNOW, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, IF WE WAIT, IT WILL. THE PRICE AND THE COST JUST INCREASES OVER TIME. SO WE SAW THAT ON THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE. WE SAW THAT HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, THE COST WENT FROM 33 TO $44 MILLION. 
          AND BECAUSE WE HAD THAT ESCALATION AND WE GOT HIT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT ESCALATION AND INFLATION. AND I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT INFLATION'S COMING DOWN, LOTS OF GAS AND ALL OF THAT. WE LIVE IN AN ENVIRONMENT. WE LIVE IN A WORLD RIGHT NOW WHERE ALL YOU CAN DO IS WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW, TAKE ANYTHING TO BE HONEST. SO ALL WE CAN DO IS PLAN AND TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN. BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T, A FAILURE TO PLAN IS A PLAN TO FAIL, PERIOD. END OF STORY. AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE BACKLOGGED ON CASES. WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE TO TRY THE CASES, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE MOVING THEM. SO WE HAVE TOO MANY INMATES IN OUR JAILS, AND THEN WE END UP HAVING TO TURN INMATES OUT THAT SHOULD BE IN JAIL AND STAY THERE UNTIL THEY'RE TRIED. I DON'T WANT TO EVER PUT WALLER COUNTY OR BE IN THAT SITUATION FOR THE COUNTY IN THAT SITUATION, OR THEN YOU'LL BE PAYING OTHER COUNTIES TO HOLD YOUR INMATES AT HUGE COST. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HEARING FROM OUR JUDGES. SO ANYWAY, I JUST I HOPE PEOPLE WILL REALLY AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE 
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NOT WHO DON'T KNOW OR HAVEN'T HEARD. YES, THE PRICE TAG IS, IS, IS SUBSTANTIAL. THIS COURTHOUSE WAS A $44 MILLION PROJECT THAT WE HAVE. AND AS OF THIS MONTH, WE WILL HAVE TWO FULL SIZE COURTROOMS AND AN ANCILLARY COURTROOM, AND THE REST IS ADMINISTRATIVE WAS STILL A $44 MILLION. BUT IT ALSO HAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SECURITY CONCERNS, ALL THESE THINGS, BUILDINGS, NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, ARE NOT CHEAP. AND A BUILDING THAT HAS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT A SEPARATE CORRIDOR FOR INMATES BECOMES EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT. SO IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE. SO WE JUST I HOPE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT. I HOPE IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, THEY'LL COME BACK AND WATCH THIS PRESENTATION AND UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS, BECAUSE IF WE DO NOTHING, IT WILL HAVE RAMIFICATIONS. AND I'M NOT ONE I HAVEN'T BEEN IN 12 YEARS. THE LAST THING I DO IS SIT DOWN. BUT I THINK THAT WE'VE ATTACKED PROBLEMS HEAD ON. 
          WE ALWAYS HAVE. AND AT THE TIME WE WERE LIKE, OH WOW, THAT'S A LOT. YES IT IS. BUT I MEAN, THE JAIL, THE JAIL WAS A BIG PROJECT. IT BLOWS ME AWAY THAT WE ACTUALLY BUILT THAT JAIL FOR $40 MILLION. YEAH. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT JAIL WOULD COST TODAY IF WE HAD DECIDED? LET'S JUST HOLD OFF. THAT JAIL. TODAY WOULD BE DOUBLE, IF NOT OVER $100 MILLION FOR 200 BEDS. SO. 
          THERE'S A PRICE COST THERE TO PUT THINGS OFF. SO, YOU KNOW, WE ALL FIGURED OUT THE FINANCING. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THOSE THINGS AND LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO PREFACE ALL THAT. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A VERY LONG TIME. YES, SIR. JUDGE. THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S VERY ACCURATE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. I WANT TO MAKE ONE QUICK COMMENT BEFORE I PASS THIS ON TO RYAN TO DISCUSS THE JUSTICE TOWER. PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY ASKING, WHAT ABOUT THE CURRENT 506 COURTROOM THAT WOULD STAY? WE'RE NOT TEARING IT DOWN. THIS IS GOING TO THE EAST OF THAT BUILDING, THE 506 DAYS AND BECOMES WHAT WE BELIEVE WOULD BE A A JUVENILE COURTROOM, BECAUSE YOU CANNOT ALLOW JUVENILES TO ADULTS TO MIX IN ANY MANNER WHATSOEVER. THEY CAN'T EVEN WALK DOWN THE SAME HALLWAY. SO RUNNING JUVENILES UP INTO THIS NEW BUILDING BECOMES ANOTHER PROBLEM WITH THE SECURITY AND THE RULES OF HOW YOU HANDLE A JUVENILE. SO WE WOULD LOOK TO TAKE THE 506, MAKE SOME REASONABLE CHANGES TO IT TO MAKE IT A JUVENILE COURTROOM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA PASS THIS ON TO RYAN MCLEMORE. HE IS A PROJECT ARCHITECT FOR BFW, AND HE'S GOING TO DISCUSS THE DESIGN CHANGES, AND THEN HE'LL PASS IT ON TO NICK TO DISCUSS THE PRICING. THANK YOU DANNY. ALL RIGHT. DESIGN UPDATE. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A REFRESHER TO TO MOST OF YOU. BUT WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH WHERE WE WERE AT WHEN WE WERE AT THE ORIGINAL BUDGET AND THE STRATEGIES THAT WE WENT THROUGH TO GET IT DOWN TO THE $100 MILLION MARK AND, AND A FIVE STORY STRUCTURE IN LIEU OF AN EIGHT STORY STRUCTURE. SO THIS IS A RENDERING FRONT FRONT ELEVATION. YOU'LL SEE THAT AGAIN IN THE PRESENTATION. OLDER SLIDE THERE. ALL RIGHT. 
          SITE PLAN. SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS BUILDING THAT WE'RE IN AND THE COURTHOUSE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE ALL PART OF A STRATEGIC PLAN TO THE COUNTY THAT ALSO IS A MASTER PLAN. 
          RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE. THIS IS THE JAIL SITE. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT THE JAIL AND THE POINTER DON'T WORK. THERE'S THAT BLUE PARKING LOT. THE JAIL IS TO THE LEFT OF THE BLUE PARKING LOT, AND THEN THE 506 IS OVER THERE AS WELL. SO THIS IS WHERE THE JUSTICE TOWER IS PLANNED TO HAPPEN DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE JAIL. THERE'S OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE PLANNED FOR THIS SITE. WE HAVE AN ADULT PROBATION BUILDING. 
          DANNY MENTIONED JUVENILE PROBATION, BUT THERE'S OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN. HOWEVER, THIS IS A PRIORITY. THE THE COURTHOUSE ITSELF. SO ZOOMING INTO THAT, AGAIN, A FIVE LEVEL STRUCTURE. OH, SORRY. LET ME BACK UP ONE. THE THE THE IN ORANGE WOULD BE SURFACE PARKING. WE HAVE A SURFACE PARKING STRATEGY. WE HAVE A LOT, A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE OUT THERE DURING JURY PANELING. YOU MAY HAVE 400 PEOPLE. AND SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PARKING SPOTS. AND THEN THE BLUE WOULD BE THE SECURE STAFF PARKING AREAS. SO THEN ZOOMING IN, WE'VE GOT OUR FIVE LEVEL JUSTICE CENTER THERE. YOU CAN SEE TO THE LEFT OF IT THE IT'S NOW LABELED AS JUVENILE COURT, BUT THAT IS YOUR EXISTING 506 COURT. RIGHT NOW THERE'S THE MODULARS THAT ARE KIND OF IN BETWEEN THE 506 AND THE JUSTICE CENTER. AGAIN, THOSE ARE TEMPORARY FACILITIES. IT WAS NEVER INTENTIONAL FOR THOSE MODULARS TO BE A LONG TERM FIX. AND SO THAT IS A TEMPORARY HOME FOR EVERYBODY. YOU CAN ALSO SEE TWO AND MAYBE A LITTLE HARDER TO SEE HERE, BUT THERE IS A DIRECT, SECURE CONNECTOR FOR INMATES FROM THE JAIL TO THIS FACILITY. SO THERE IS NO PUBLIC INTERACTION WITH ANYBODY WHO IS 
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CURRENTLY AN INMATE. WE'RE TALKING AGAIN, WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL OPTION HERE. SO THE ORIGINAL OPTION IS, YOU KNOW, WAS EIGHT STORIES. BUT HOW WE GOT THERE WAS WE HAVE 12 FOOT FLOOR TO FLOOR HEIGHTS. IT WAS MENTIONED YOU GOT TALLER VOLUMES IN YOUR COURTS. AND SO THAT WOULD GIVE YOU A 24 FOOT VOLUME IN YOUR COURT. BUT WHAT DO YOU DO WITH ALL THE LEFTOVER SPACE UP IN YOUR CEILING WHEN YOU GOT 12FT LEFT OVER? AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE CREATED THESE MEZZANINE SPACES THAT WERE GOING TO BE FOR ALL OF YOUR HVAC EQUIPMENT, STORAGE, PRISONER CIRCULATION. THERE WAS A LOT OF BENEFIT TO HAVING THESE, BUT IT DID INCREASE THE LEVEL COUNT AND HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE IN ORANGE. IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THOSE LITTLE INTERSTITIAL FLOORS IN ORANGE. JUDGE LEVEL ONE JUDGE MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS ABOUT THIS BUILDING IS CIRCULATION. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE IN THE PLAN, WE HAVE DIVIDED UP STAFF, SECURE AND PUBLIC CIRCULATION. PUBLIC CIRCULATION IS IN GREEN. ALL OF THE STAFF AREAS ARE IN THE BLUE. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN SEE AGAIN THAT SECURE CONNECTOR COMING FROM THE JAIL IN YELLOW. AND SO NOT ONLY ARE YOU HORIZONTALLY WANTING TO KEEP EVERYBODY SEPARATE VERTICALLY TOO. SO AS PEOPLE MOVE UP THROUGH THE BUILDING, YOU'RE WE HAVE EXTRA ELEVATOR BANKS FOR BOTH PUBLIC STAFF AND SECURE. BUT ON THE FIRST FLOOR, WE HAVE THE JURY PANELING ROOM. THAT IS THE LARGE SPACE THERE ON THE LEFT, THERE'S A LARGE PUBLIC LOBBY WHERE ALL YOUR SECURITY FUNCTIONS WILL HAPPEN. AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE DISTRICT AND COUNTY CLERK SPACE. SO LEVEL TWO WOULD BE YOUR COUNTY COURT AT LAW. SO WE HAVE TWO COURTROOMS. THESE ARE ROUGHLY 100 PEOPLE COURTROOMS. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT AGAIN THE DIVISION OF CIRCULATION. I MEAN, IT IS A HARD LINE. WE DO NOT WANT PEOPLE MIXING. SO YOU CAN SEE THE DETENTION AREAS AS A CONFINED SPACE. IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT BUILDING THERE. THERE'S EVEN HOLDING CELLS SO VERY SECURE. THIS WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE INTERSTITIAL SPACES, RIGHT? SO IT'S A LARGE OPEN SPACE. THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFIT TO THIS. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE ALL YOUR HVAC EQUIPMENT WAS HAPPENING, ALL YOUR STORAGE NEEDS. AND THERE WAS POTENTIAL FOR, AGAIN, INMATE CIRCULATION, KEEPING EVERYBODY SEPARATE. AND THE EX IS THERE, THE VOID SPACES WHERE THE COURTROOMS WOULD OCCUR, WHERE YOU'D HAVE THAT DOUBLE HEIGHT VOLUME. SO PLANNING FOR FUTURE GROWTH. AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD TODAY. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU OCCUPY TOMORROW AND IT'S ALREADY TOO SMALL. SO INCORPORATING SHELF SPACE, I MISSED IT ON THE ON THE SITE, BUT EVEN ON THE SITE, WE'VE INCORPORATED ROOM IN THE SITE FOR THE BUILDING TO GROW IF IT EVER NEEDED TO. BUT LEVEL FOUR IS A DEDICATED SHELF SPACE. IT COULD BE A LAW LIBRARY, IT COULD BE ADMIN SPACES, MORE COURTS. BUT AGAIN, GIVEN THE COUNTY THE ABILITY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS IN THE FUTURE, DISTRICT ATTORNEY SPACE. SO OCCUPYING THE ENTIRE LEVEL SIX OF THIS BUILDING, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A LOT OF OFFICE FUNCTION. AND AS A PART OF THE DA FLOOR. SO A LOT OF PROGRAM GOES INTO THEIR SPACE. LEVEL SEVEN WOULD BE DISTRICT COURT'S SAME LAYOUT, SAME COURT SPACE, BUT DEDICATED TO DISTRICT COURTS. AND AGAIN, CIRCULATION IS KEY, KEEPING EVERYBODY SEPARATE. BACKING UP TO THE DA FLOOR, YOU CAN SEE PRISONERS DON'T STOP ON THE FLOOR, KEEP ON GOING. AND HERE ON THE DISTRICT COURT'S YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY'RE CONTAINED. WAITING FOR TRIAL. SO THIS WAS AN EARLY EXAMPLE WHEN WE HAD AN EIGHT STORY BUILDING. YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANTED TO GIVE THE BUILDING ITS OWN KIND OF UNIQUE IDENTITY. YOU CAN SEE IT'S DEFINITELY A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN THAN THE BUILDING WE'RE IN HERE NOW. THERE IS SOME DESIGN CUES THAT WE PICKED UP ON FROM THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT ARE OVER THERE ON THAT SITE. A LOT OF THEM HAVE THESE SHED STYLE ROOFS, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE YOU PICK UP THAT SHED STYLE ROOF. YOU CAN SEE IT THERE AT THE FRONT ENTRY. SO THAT'S NOT COMPLETELY ARBITRARY. IT HELPS TIE THE BUILDING INTO THE REST OF THE CAMPUS. I GUESS ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE GOT IN SOME OF THE EARLY PLANNING MEETINGS WAS THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF REPETITION IN THE WINDOWS ON THE FRONT FACE. AND SO AS WE LOOKED AT REVISED VERSIONS, WE REALLY STUDIED HOW TO SIMPLIFY THAT. AND JUST SORT OF A NIGHT SHOT THERE. SO A COUPLE OF STATS HERE, YOU KNOW, ON THE LEFT WAS THE PREVIOUS DESIGN. EIGHT STORIES. ON THE RIGHT WAS THE NEW DESIGN, FIVE STORIES. SO TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE PREVIOUSLY WAS AROUND 200,000FT■S WITH CUTTING OUT THE ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE DID WAS REMOVING THE INTERSTITIAL SPACES. AND SO WHEN YOU DO THAT, WE GOT THE BUILDING DOWN TO ABOUT 148,000FT■S. SO THAT'S A GOOD CHUNK OF SQUARE FOOTAGE. WE 
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ALSO REDID THE FLOOR TO FLOOR HEIGHTS INSTEAD OF A 24 FOOT OR A 12 FOOT. WE WENT TO A CONSTANT 18 FOOT FLOOR TO FLOOR, WHICH BROUGHT THE ENTIRE BUILDING HEIGHT DOWN FROM 220FT TO 206. ANOTHER SORT OF, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT TO THE STRATEGY, I GUESS, THAT WE HAD DONE IN REDUCING THE COST OF THIS WAS THAT THE PROGRAM ACTUALLY NEVER EVEN CHANGED. WE WERE ABLE TO STILL FIT THE SAME PROGRAM INTO THIS BUILDING, BUT WITH A FEW KIND OF DESIGN TWEAKS, WE'RE ABLE TO, TO REDUCE COSTS, BUT, BUT KEEP FUNCTIONALITY. SO THOSE WERE SOME OF THE BIG ONES. 
          ANOTHER BIG ONE WAS THE MECHANICAL STRATEGY. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING ALL THESE HVAC UNITS INSIDE OF THE INTERSTITIAL SPACES. THE NEW STRATEGY WOULD PLACE THESE ON TOP OF THE ROOF, JUST LIKE THIS BUILDING DOES. SO. OKAY, SO FIRST FLOOR AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE IT'S THE SAME LAYOUT. NOTHING HAS CHANGED HERE. WE STILL HAVE JURY PANELING. JURY PANELING. 
          YEAH. COURT CLERK, DISTRICT CLERK. THE THE SEPARATION OF CIRCULATION. IT'S THE SAME LAYOUT. LEVEL TWO, SAME THING. YOU GOT TWO COURTS, YOU GOT YOUR LARGE PUBLIC LOBBY AND SEPARATION OF SPACE. THE ONLY REAL DIFFERENCE IS, IS WHEN YOU GO FROM A FROM A PLACING YOUR HVAC UNITS ON AN INTERSTITIAL FLOOR TO LIKE A ROOFTOP SITUATION, YOU DO HAVE TO CREATE CHASE SPACE THROUGH THE BUILDING TO BRING ALL THE HVAC DOWN FROM THE ROOF AND DISTRIBUTE IT TO ALL THE FLOORS. AND SO THERE IS A VOID SPACE THAT WE HAD TO CREATE FOR THAT CHASE. AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S THAT KIND OF THAT WHITE X THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE. AND THERE'LL BE OTHER CHASES THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING, BUT THAT ALLOWS THAT DUCTWORK TO AGAIN, COME DOWN AND BE DISTRIBUTED THROUGH THE FLOORS. AND SO THEN AGAIN, LEVEL LEVEL THREE HERE. AND THEN THIS WAS DISTRICT COURTS AND COUNTY COUNTY CLERK OR COUNTY COURT. 
          AND THEN WE GET TO LEVEL FOUR. SO LEVEL FOUR IN THIS SCENARIO WOULD BE THE DA FLOOR. AND WHAT WE DID, AND THIS IS AGAIN A STRATEGY TO GET THE BUDGET TO, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN TARGET. WE SAID, DOES DA NEED TO HAVE ALL THAT SPACE ON DAY ONE? AND WE MADE A DECISION IN A VACUUM. 
          THIS ISN'T WITH, YOU KNOW, DA'S INPUT, HOWEVER, WE'VE GOTTEN IT SINCE. BUT FOR THIS STRATEGY, WE SAID, LET'S SHELL OUT HALF A DA FLOOR. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND HOW DOES THAT HELP US WITH THE BUDGET? AND IT DOES. IT RESULTS IN IN SOME SAVINGS. THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID HERE ON THIS FLOOR IS WE INTRODUCED A PUBLIC LOBBY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO SHELL IT OUT, BUT IT COULD BE COURTS IN THE FUTURE, OR IT COULD BE DA SPACE IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND SO IF YOU ADD THE PUBLIC LOBBY, THAT ALSO KIND OF GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO. USE IT FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS AS, AS THE PROJECT MOVED FORWARD, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT MAY BE A PRIORITY OF THE COUNTY TO DEVELOP THIS ENTIRE FLOOR AS DA. SO THE DESIGN IS ONGOING. 
          AND THEN STILL GIVING YOU MORE ABILITY TO EXPAND. SO ON LEVEL FIVE OF THIS BUILDING, THE TOP LEVEL TWO COURTS SHELLED OUT. AGAIN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE COURTS, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR. I THINK TOTAL IN THE BUILDING IN BOTH STRATEGIES, THERE'S FOUR COURTS BUILT OUT. 
          THIS PLAN GIVES YOU THE ABILITY IN THE FUTURE TO HAVE A TOTAL OF SIX, WITH A POSSIBLE WILD CARD OF SEVEN WITHIN THE BUILDING. BUT SIX SIX TOTAL COURTS IS THE PLANNED BUILD OUT FOR THIS BUILDING ELEVATION. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT GOING EIGHT STORIES TO FIVE STORIES. 
          YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THIS HERE. WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING IN REVIT. SO IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S A SOPHISTICATED 3D MODEL. THIS IS JUST A JUST A FRONT ELEVATION OF IT. BUT YOU CAN AGAIN SEE HOW TO WE SIMPLIFIED THE RHYTHM OF THOSE WINDOWS. IT'S NOT SO LIKE REPETITIVE. SO WE BROKE UP THAT RHYTHM A LITTLE BIT AND SIMPLIFIED THE STRUCTURE. AND IN MY OPINION, I THINK THAT THE SCALE, IT ACTUALLY IS A BETTER SCALE FOR THE FACILITY AND SITE. AND THEN THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. IT'S KIND OF AN EVENING SHOT. AGAIN, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THOSE STYLE CUES OF THE SHED ROOF. AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT TIE INTO THE OTHER FACILITIES ON THE SITE? BUT THE MATERIAL COMPOSITION OF THIS WOULD BE A STONE, A PORCELAIN PANEL, AND OBVIOUSLY GLASS AND METAL. AGAIN, IT'S A MODERN JUSTICE BUILDING. WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE IT THAT KIND OF THAT INSTITUTIONAL, MODERN LOOK. FRONT ENTRY, SOME NICE WOOD ELEMENTS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME YOU INTRODUCE WOOD ON A BUILDING, IT KIND OF HELPS SOFTEN IT, WARM IT UP BECAUSE THIS IS AN INSTITUTIONAL BUILDING. SO YOU WANT TO WARM IT UP WHERE YOU CAN. AND AGAIN, 
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FRONT ELEVATION. AND THEN I'LL TURN IT TO NICK. I HAVE A QUESTION. OH YES SIR. THE ONE THE ONE FLOOR PLAN WHERE YOU JUST HAD ABOUT HALF THE FLOOR BUILT OUT AND THE OTHER WAS SHELF SPACE. YOU MENTIONED IT WOULD BE A COURTROOM. POSSIBLY. BUT YOU ALSO POINTED OUT EARLIER THAT THERE WAS NO PRISONER ACCESS TO THAT FLOOR. SO THAT WOULD MEAN NECESSARILY THAT THAT WOULD BE A COURTROOM THAT DID NOT HAVE CRIMINAL CASES. IT COULD BE. I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF AT AN INTERESTING SPOT WHERE WE'RE STILL DESIGNING AND GATHERING INPUT, BUT ALSO WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD IN DETAIL. SO, YOU KNOW, THE LOGISTICS OF THAT FLOOR. I THINK THE COUNTY'S GOT TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS IF IT IS TO, YOU KNOW, SERVE AS A CRIMINAL COURT. 
          I DO THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER BUILDING OUT A DETENTION SPACE ON LEVEL FOUR. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT IS ALSO SHARED BY D A. AND SO WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH WHAT THE STATE IS GOING TO ALLOW US IN THOSE CONDITIONS. AND SO THERE'S FURTHER CONVERSATIONS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE WITH THE DA'S OFFICE AND THE COUNTY TO DETERMINE WHAT THE USABILITY IS OF THAT SHELF SPACE. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT IS DESIRED TO BE. THE WHOLE FLOOR IS DESIRED TO BE FOR D A YEAH. SITUATION. I JUST THIS IS, I THINK, WHAT COMMISSIONER BECKENDORF WAS REFERRING TO. IT WOULD BE HIS PREFERENCE TO BUILD IT OUT FOR THE DA'S OFFICE. AND WE NOW, INSTEAD OF HAVING A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT ONGOING WHILE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WORKING ON THE SAME FLOOR, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. AND WE DO AS WELL. SO REVISIONS TO BE MADE. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU MADE SOME PRETTY CONVINCING ARGUMENTS, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD TURN THIS OVER TO THE PEOPLE TO DECIDE THIS IN A BOND ISSUE. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. WE'RE JUST PRESENTING THE FACTS AND THEN WE'LL LET Y'ALL KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO. YES, YOU'RE TRYING TO GIVE US A SALES PITCH. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. A SALES PITCH. 
          JUST UPDATING YOU GUYS ON THE ON THE PROGRESS OF THE BUILDING. I MEAN, I KNOW THE COUNTY IS PROUD OF WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN AND WE CERTAINLY ARE TOO. AND, YOU KNOW, WE JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AND Y'ALL CAN DECIDE WHAT'S BEST, BEST STRATEGY FOR HOW WE FINANCE IT IS A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION FROM WHAT WE'RE HAVING TODAY. I'M JUST MAKING MY POINT OF VIEW KNOWING UPFRONT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT I HAVEN'T HAD THE PLEASURE TO MEET, I'M NICK HEMMING, DIRECTOR OF PRECONSTRUCTION AND ESTIMATING AT ELCO CONSTRUCTION. I'M HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NUMBERS, THE TIMELINE OF THE PROJECT AND THE ULTIMATE PROPOSAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FROM CURRENT DESIGN DOCUMENTS TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. AS DANNY AND RYAN MENTIONED, WE WERE TASKED TO GET WITHIN $100 MILLION. IN DOING SO, WE. WE DID. WITH THE REDESIGN OF COMING TO A BUDGET OF $99,779,083, FOR A TOTAL OF $671.38 PER SQUARE FOOT. OF THE 148,618 SQUARE FOOT JUDICIAL CENTER. IN THAT TOTAL, WE. I'VE GOT AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY TO SEPARATE THE COSTS. THE SITE CONSTRUCTION WITH ALL THE. THE PARKING. THE GRADING AND LANDSCAPING COMES TO A TOTAL OF 8,658,146. THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION ITSELF COMES TO A TOTAL OF 59,000, OR $59,728,969, OR 400, AND ROUGHLY $402 A SQUARE FOOT. IN THE $99 MILLION WE HAD INCLUDED CONTINGENCIES FOR DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND OWNER CONTINGENCY, AS WELL AS ESCALATION COSTS. THAT TOTAL, ROUGHLY, IS $6,680,000, FOR A TOTAL OF $45 A SQUARE FOOT. WE HAVE INCLUDED ALL GENERAL CONDITIONS, SUPERVISIONS, INSURANCES AND FEES, FOR A TOTAL OF 13,845,409, AND AS WELL AS OUR DESIGN FEES WITH BSW FOR $10,865,974. THAT TOTAL, AGAIN, IS $99,000,779 THOUSAND DOLLARS AND $83, $99,779,083. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST CONSTRUCTION COSTS. THE. WE YOU 
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ALL HAVE PREVIOUSLY PAID FOR TO WHERE WE ARE IN DESIGN AT DESIGN. DEVELOPMENT OF $4,111,417. THEREFORE, THE BALANCE OF THE DESIGN BUILD BUDGET TO BE FUNDED WOULD BE $95,667,604. TO ADD SOFT COSTS TO THE PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDES ALL FIXTURES, FURNITURE, EQUIPMENT, ALL CONSTRUCTION, TESTING BY THE OWNER AND WHATNOT. AS ROUGHLY AROUND A 12% COST ALLOWANCE FOR THAT, TOTALING $11,480,112, BRINGING YOUR PROJECT BUDGET ESTIMATE TO BE FUNDED, PLUS FINANCE COSTS OF $107,147,716. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE NUMBERS? ARE FINANCE COSTS? WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT THE INTEREST ON THE YET TO BE DECIDED THE FUTURE? AND WHAT IF THERE'S ANY FINANCING OPTIONS AVAILABLE. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE FINANCING COSTS. 
          INTEREST COSTS. SO. THERE'S NO QUESTIONS. I'LL MOVE FORWARD TO A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAKDOWN. 
          I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE I WON'T GET INTO THE TO THE ULTIMATE BREAKDOWN OF CONCRETE AND FINISHES AND WHATNOT, BUT I'LL JUMP DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF CONTINGENCIES AND ESCALATION. 
          THE OWNER CONTINGENCY AND BETTERMENT. WE LIKE TO INCLUDE 1.5% ON TOP OF THE COST OF THE PROJECT, WHICH TOTALS $1.1 MILLION. WE WILL HAVE A DESIGN BUILD CONTINGENCY OF 4%. WHAT THIS DOES IS HELP US TO MAKE ANY REVISIONS OR NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE DESIGN, AND COVER ANY COSTS THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE. WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED PROJECT ESCALATION FOR TO GET TO GMP, WHICH WOULD BE ANTICIPATED IN JANUARY OF 27. IF WE WERE TO GET APPROVAL TODAY TO MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THIS ESTIMATE, WE HAD 14 MONTHS INCLUDED AT 0.29% PER MONTH. THAT COVERS ROUGHLY 2.4 $2.5 MILLION OF ESCALATION UNTIL JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR. HOLD ON. TALKING ABOUT YOU SAID THAT IF WE DID WHAT TODAY, IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL JANUARY. IF WE WERE TO GET TO APPROVAL TODAY TO MOVE THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT DESIGN, WE COULD HAVE THE GMP IN JANUARY. GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE PROPOSAL. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO YOU GOT TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS IN ORDER TO GET ACCURATE PRICING. THAT'S CORRECT. I'M GOING TO TOUCH BASE WITH THAT ON THE NEXT ESTIMATES. THESE ARE ESTIMATES. THESE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS TO MOVE FORWARD WILL HELP US NARROW DOWN THE COSTS AND HAVE A SOLID NUMBER. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY. I WOULD LIKE THE TIMELINE IF THE COURT APPROVED IT TO BE BEFORE JANUARY. BUT HEY. YEAH, I'LL I'LL DISCUSS THE TIMELINE HERE IN A SECOND. WHO IS DOES THE CITY OF HEMPSTEAD PROVIDE ELECTRICAL SERVICE TO THE BUILDING KNOW THAT SITE IS PART OF SAN BERNARD ELECTRIC? AND SO THEY HAVE CAPACITY AT THIS TIME TO SERVE THIS BUILDING, THIS SIZE AT THE SITE. I CAN CHECK INTO THAT. I SAY DEFINITIVELY, I WOULD THINK SO, BUT I WOULD NEED TO ASK ABOUT THAT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT MIGHT AFFECT OUR PRICE. IF WE HAD TO, WE COULD CONTRIBUTE TO THAT. SURE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BUDGET OR I CAN GO INTO THE TIMELINE NEXT. OKAY. ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATION OF A PROJECT START IN, SAY, JANUARY OF 27. WE WOULD NEED APPROVAL TODAY TO MOVE FROM OUR CURRENT DESIGN DOCUMENTS, DESIGN DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. WHAT THAT WOULD TAKE WOULD BE 5 TO 6 MONTHS TO COMPLETE. THAT WOULD PUT OUR COMPLETION DATE FOR BIDDING NOVEMBER 1ST OF 2026. 
          WE WOULD HAVE A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE PRESENTATION IN DECEMBER OF 26 FOR COMMISSIONER COURT APPROVAL, AND THEN OUR CONSTRUCTION NOTICE TO PROCEED WOULD BE JANUARY OF 27. SO IF WE HAD APPROVAL TODAY, WE WOULD NEED ROUGHLY SIX MONTHS TO TO GET TO THE CONSTRUCTION NOTICE TO PROCEED. ONE THING I DO WANT TO NOTE, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T GOING TO GO UP RIGHT AWAY. IT'S GOING TO TAKE. US 26 MONTHS TO COMPLETE. AND SO THAT PUTS US, YOU KNOW, INTO 2029 
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INDEFINITELY BEFORE YOU CAN USE THE BUILDING WAS BEING AT THAT POINT WILL BE OVER 100,000 PEOPLE. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. I STATED EARLIER, WALLER COUNTY IS EXPLORING FINANCING OPTIONS. 
          THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS. THIS MEETING TO TOUCH BASE TO GET TO THE POINT OF EXPENSES, TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR BIDDING WOULD BE A COST OF $3,563,366. TODAY, WE HAVE BROUGHT SAVINGS FROM THIS CURRENT BUILDING COURTHOUSE PROJECT COMPLETION AS SOME AS WELL AS SOME ANTICIPATED SAVINGS FROM THE THIRD FLOOR FINISH OUT. WE BROUGHT A DEDUCTIVE CHANGE ORDER BACK TO Y'ALL FOR $1.5 MILLION. IF YOU WERE TO USE THAT MONEY THAT HASN'T BEEN SPENT WITH THAT 1.5 MILLION ADDITIONAL COUNTY FINANCING, FINANCIAL COMMITMENT WOULD BE $2,063,366 TO COMPLETE TWO 100% CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS STARTING TODAY. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? WELL, THAT'S NOT MONEY THAT WE'VE SPENT THAT 1.5 MILLION. THAT'S CORRECT. I JUST CAME UNDER THE BUDGET. SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A CHECK COMING BACK TO NET AGAINST YOU. BUT BUT FUNDING FUNDING WAS THERE FOR THE 1.0. I HAVEN'T SEEN THEIR CALCULATIONS. NO NO NO. WHAT I'M SAYING IS MISS MISS GABBY CAN TALK TO THAT. WHAT. THAT SAVINGS INVOLVES FUNDING THAT WE ALLOWED FOR 1.5 HAS NOT BEEN SPENT. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL. THAT'S IT. YEAH. THAT'S ALL WE WERE WANTING TO TO REITERATE THAT WE HAVEN'T SPENT THAT 1.5 MILLION, THAT THAT'S JUST PURE SAVINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE TO WALLER COUNTY. IF YOU ALL APPROVE IT TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OUTLAY OF 3.5 MILLION THAT WE GOT TO FIND. OKAY, 1.5 OF IT MONEY THAT WE'VE. HE SAID HE SAID, YOU CAN'T RELY ON THAT. WELL, WE HAVE TO APPROVE TODAY IS THE 3.5. AND THEN THEY WOULD BASICALLY SEND US A. HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND. THAT'S HOW MUCH WE NEED TO FIND BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CAPITAL OUTLAY TO GET THE CONSTRUCTION. AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTIONS IS THAT IT'S NOT SIMPLE. YES. IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE. JUST FLIP. BUT I'M, I THINK I WILL WORK IF THAT'S THE DAX, WE WILL APPROVE THE 3 MILLION DAX OVER THERE. SADAKO ARE WE THEN COME BACK TO US AND GIVE US AN INVOICE FOR A CHEAPER AMOUNT THAN THE 3 MILLION THAT WE APPROVED, OR NO. HOW WOULD THAT WORK? NO, THAT'S NOT HOW THAT WORKS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET A CHECK BACK. YOU WON'T GET A CHECK BACK. YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN A CHECK BACK FOR ANY MONEY. WE HAVEN'T SPENT THE MONEY. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY GAVE YOU A GMP AND THEY HAVEN'T REACHED THAT. IT'S LESS THAN IT'S A ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S IMAGINARY LINE. YEAH. I'M GOING TO NEED THREE AND A HALF, 3.6 MILLION. OKAY. IT'S NOT A IT JUST MAKES US FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND 1.5 MILLION SOMEWHERE ELSE. YEAH. 
          BUT THE POINT IS WE GOT TO PAY FOR THIS. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? I MAY JUDGE HOW OLD YOU WILL BE IN 2029. I'M CRACKING JOKES. BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS. I MEAN, ELTON HAS STOOD UP AND. KIND OF GAVE US HIS REMARKS AND WARNINGS AS SOON AS HE BECAME JUDGE. PEOPLE FEEL LIKE, WELL, I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT, MY FRIENDS THAT TRAVEL THROUGH PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO COMMIT CRIMES IN WALLER COUNTY. AND WITH THE GROWTH AND IT'S NO LONGER POPULATION PROJECTIONS, YOU COULD DRIVE MY PRECINCT, DRIVE UP AND DOWN. 
          362, 359, FIVE, 529 YOU YOU SEE DIRT TURNING, YOU SEE HOMES BEING BUILT. IT'S NOT A WHAT IF STORY. AND I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS COURT. WHEN WE LISTEN TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENTS TO TAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND DO WHAT WE CAN, TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE THAT GAP, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM RESOURCES AND WHICH THEY NEED. AND SO I KNOW THE COURT, BEFORE I BECAME A COMMISSIONER, TOOK UP THE JAIL. AS WELL AS THE, THE, THE, THE 506 AND THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE OVER THERE. NOW, THAT WAS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I WANT TO SAY THAT WAS 2019, 2018. WELL, THE THE ELECTION WAS ALL RIGHT. AND NOW HERE YOU ARE CLOSE TO 
          [01:40:06]
TEN YEARS LATER, HAVING TO BUILD ON THAT. I KNOW THE JUDGE WAS ALSO PROACTIVE AND WANTING TO HAVE A, A DESIGN AND LAYOUT OF COUNTY FACILITIES FOR EACH ONE OF THE FACILITIES THAT WE KNOW THAT WAS GOING TO HAVE TO TACKLE. DUE TO CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THAT PROCESS STOPPED. BUT WE'VE LITERALLY HEARD EVERY PERSON THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT SAY THAT THIS IS NOT A A WARRANT, THAT THIS IS A NEED. WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE DO WITH OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AS FAR AS THEM BEING IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND TRYING TO PUT THEM ALL UNDERNEATH THE SAME ROOF. AND AS THE COUNTY GROWS, THE DA OFFICE HAS TO GROW. AS THE COUNTY GROWS, SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS TO GROW. AND WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH COURTROOMS, THEN PEOPLE STAY LONGER IN JAILS OR THEN YOU RELEASE THEM OFF OF BONDS. AND I THINK THE BIGGEST TALK THAT WE HEAR AROUND IN OUR REGION IS SOMEONE COMMITTING A CRIME THAT HAD JUST MURDERED SOMEONE SEVERAL WEEKS AGO AND WONDER WHY THEY WEREN'T IN JAIL. OR YOU LOOK AT OUR NEIGHBORING PARTNERS THAT KNOW FOR A FACT ARE THE BIGGEST ONE IS SPENDING MILLIONS TO SEND THEIR INMATES ACROSS STATE LINES TO HOUSE THEM. WHEN OTHER COUNTIES IN THE REGION ARE LOOKING AT HOW TO MOVE THEIR INMATES TO SOMEWHERE ELSE, AT WHAT POINT DO WE TAKE A RESPONSIBILITY TO SAY THAT THIS IS NO LONGER A WARRANT, BUT IT IS A NEED, AND THIS IS HOW WE PROTECT OUR CONSTITUENTS? I THINK ALL OF US ARE. I LOVE BEING A PART OF THIS COURT BECAUSE WE GO OUT AND TALK. IT'S LIKE, OH, WE DON'T BELIEVE IN RAISING TAXES OR WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ANY WASTE IN OUR BUDGET. LIKE, YOU CAN'T GO TO OUR BUDGET AND WE SAY, WHERE ARE WE WASTING? OH, WE'RE JUST GOING TO THROW FLUFF HERE, ALLEN AND MIKE, AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE OKAY. WE DON'T DO THAT AS A COUNTY. I THINK WE'RE A VERY RESPONSIBLE COURT. 
          BUT IF WE DON'T GIVE THE COURTS WHAT THEY NEED, WHAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO KEEP THE JUSTICE SYSTEM GOING AND THE RIGHT TO A SPEEDY TRIAL, THEN ARE WE REALLY GIVING OUR CONSTITUENTS THE SAFETY, THE ENVIRONMENT, THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH THEY. AND WHICH PART OF THE REASON WHY THEY LIVE HERE? OH YES, OF COURSE I AM A CHAMPION. I DO SUPPORT IT. I THINK THE COURT HOPEFULLY WILL SAY, HEY, WELL, FIRST, ALAN, AS WE ALWAYS COME TO YOU, ALAN AND MIKE, Y'ALL HAVE A PLAN FOR US TO HAVE THIS 3 MILLION. WE USED TO MOVE ON IT TODAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I AND, OH, IF WE YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH MAKING DECISIONS LIKE THIS IS THAT WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS ON SOMETHING THAT WON'T EVEN START BEING UTILIZED FOR 4 OR 5 YEARS AFTER YOU GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS. AND IN THAT TIME PERIOD, ALL THESE STATISTICS THAT THE DA AND THE JUDGE TALKED ABOUT WOULD BE EVEN WORSE THAN THEY ARE TODAY. THE OTHER THING, I MEAN, IF I'M TRYING TO SIT HERE AND LOOK AT WHAT THE FUTURE COST IS GOING TO BE, AND I USE IT IN CONSTRUCTION, INFLATION NUMBER OF, SAY, 8%, WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY CONSERVATIVE. IN THAT SAME TIME PERIOD, THE SAME BUILDING WOULD BE ALMOST $140 MILLION. SO. WHEN SOMEBODY ASKS, WHAT'S THE URGENCY? WELL, THERE'S TWO TYPES OF URGENCY HERE. ONE IS THE INCREASING POPULATION. AND THEREFORE, AND KEEP IN MIND THE CRIMES THAT ARE COMMITTED IN WALLER COUNTY. OKAY. MY HEARING AIDS PICKED UP SOMEBODY ANYWAY. OKAY. THERE'S TWO THERE'S TWO TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT COMMIT CRIME, PEOPLE THAT ARE WALLER COUNTY RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE OTHER COUNTY RESIDENTS. SO WE NOT ONLY HAVE AN INCREASE IN THE POPULATION HERE, BUT WE AS WE BECOME A MORE. DEVELOPED COUNTY, WILL BECOME MORE ATTRACTIVE TO PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COMMIT CRIMES IN THIS COUNTY. THEN THERE'S THE OTHER ASPECT OF WAITING TO BUILD IT TILL LATER. AND SO. TO ME, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR IT AND THE NEED FOR US 
          [01:45:10]
TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW. SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT TO, I MEAN, DELAYING A DECISION ON THIS HURTS US IN THE FUTURE FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND EVEN WORSE CASE SCENARIO. AND THAT'S JUST USING 8% INFLATION OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE THERE YET. 
          I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. WE AREN'T QUITE THERE YET. THE THE CORRIDOR BETWEEN DALLAS AND HOUSTON IS ROUGHLY IT'S INCREASING TO FIVE AND A HALF TO SIX. OKAY, SO MAYBE THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE SMALLER THAN WHAT I A LITTLE BIT, BUT NEVER KNOW. BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN A PROJECTION YET THAT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET. SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ADAGE THAT TIME IS MONEY IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. AND. LIKE TO COMMISSIONER SMITH'S POINT, EVERY, YOU KNOW, THESE THESE PROJECTS DON'T GET DONE OVERNIGHT. IT'S. EVEN IF WE GREENLIGHTED EVERYTHING TODAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 29. AND BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, THERE IS NO TELLING WHAT COULD HAPPEN THAT COULD CAUSE SUBSTANTIAL ESCALATION AND INFLATION AGAIN. SO GETTING TO A GMP, A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE, A PRICE THAT THE COUNTY IS GUARANTEED, WE WILL NOT SEE A COST ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT. THE RISK IS NOW BEING BORNE BY SOMEBODY ELSE. BUT TO GET TO THAT, GMP REQUIRES US TO GO FROM THE DESIGN THAT WE'RE AT NOW TO AN ACTUAL TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT SO THAT WE CAN GET REAL NUMBERS. AND WE'VE HAD THAT PROBLEM IN THE PAST ON THIS BUILDING. YOU KNOW, WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT IT WOULD IT WAS A $33 MILLION BUILDING, AND WE WERE NOT LOCKED IN YET BECAUSE WE WERE STILL MOVING TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. 
          AND THEN WE FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, ESCALATION HITS IN THAT WINDOW THAT WE WERE WAITING. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THEN IT BECOMES IT'S A $44 MILLION PROJECT WHEN WE WHEN WE LOCKED IT IN. SO TO ME, GETTING TO GMP AS FAST AS WE HUMANLY CAN TO GET THAT GUARANTEED PRICE. SO WE KNOW A REAL NUMBER BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE JAIL THAT WE, WE DID A REFERENDUM ON THE JAIL, 39.5 $1 MILLION. THAT WAS A GUESS. THAT WAS NOT A REAL NUMBER. WE GOT VERY LUCKY THAT WE BUILT THAT JAIL DURING A TIME WHERE THERE WASN'T A LOT OF INFLATION AND ESCALATION GOING ON. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A SITUATION, YOU KNOW, THE WORLD ECONOMY, EVERYTHING GOING ON, IRAN, YOU ALL THESE THINGS THAT ALL IMPACT COST. I MEAN, THE DEAL WITH IRAN, FUEL COSTS, OIL COSTS, WHAT DOES THAT DO? THAT TRICKLES DOWN TO EVERY CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, EVERY VENDOR, THE TRUCKS THAT ARE TRANSPORTING THE THE MATERIALS FOR THE COURT, IT CAUSES EVERYTHING TO GO UP. SO THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO, TO GET TO THAT PRICE. SO WE CAN LOCK THAT IN. AND THEN HOWEVER WE'RE GOING TO FINANCE IT, WHETHER IT'S A REFERENDUM OR COS OR A P THREE, ANY OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS. BUT TO THE DECISION TODAY IS DO WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE FROM DESIGN TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS? I THINK IN ORDER TO GET A REAL NUMBER, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AND THAT REAL NUMBER IS WHAT WE NEED TO BASE OUR DECISIONS ON. 
          AND THE SOONER WE GET THERE, THE SOONER THAT WE REDUCE OUR EXPOSURE LONG TERM. AND WAITING IS VERY DANGEROUS, ESPECIALLY IN THIS IN THIS WORLD ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN. SO ARE YOU SAYING HE WHO HE WHO HESITATES IS LOST COULD BE. ABSOLUTELY. IT IS. WE'VE SEEN IT BEFORE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE VERY HARD CLOSE AND I'VE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE DOING THIS. 
          WELL, ALL WE'RE DECIDING TODAY IS TO GO TO TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION DOCS, BECAUSE THERE IS NO UPSIDE TO WAITING. I THINK THAT'S MY POINT IS, WHAT'S THE UPSIDE TO WAITING? WE JUST PUT OFF IF YOU WANT TO GO TO COMMISSIONER, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE VOTERS, WHAT NUMBER DO YOU GO WITH? WHAT NUMBER DO YOU GO TO THEM WITH $100 MILLION. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES. WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT $100 MILLION ALL THE TIME, RIGHT. NO ESTIMATE AT THIS STAGE OF THE OF THE DESIGN PROCESS. THAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE. BUT IN ORDER TO GET TO A NUMBER THAT'S FIXED, WE GOT TO SPEND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT NUMBER IS. RIGHT? RIGHT. YOU'LL ALSO HAVE A FINAL SET OF DOCUMENTS IN YOUR HAND, $3.5 MILLION INVESTMENT TODAY 
          [01:50:02]
IS WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE, RIGHT? YES. YES. CORRECT. I CAN'T GO THERE. OKAY. WELL, I MOVE I MOVE TO APPROVE THE COST PROPOSAL AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WITH SEALS. SECOND. 
          OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, I THINK WE'VE I THINK THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN COVERED. 
          I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHERE WE ALL STAND. ANY DISCUSSION? THIS IS TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND WE'LL WORK WITH ALAN AND MIKE IN TERMS OF WHERE WE HAVE THE THAT MONEY IN THE BUDGET, OR IF WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE TO DO IT. SO I NEED TO KNOW THAT BEFORE WE VOTE. WELL, THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY WE'RE JUST MOVING. I THINK THE WELL, COMMISSIONER JONES MADE THE MOTION FOR YOU TO TO USE COS. SO I GUESS THAT COULD KEEP IT OPEN TO IF THERE'S MONEY IN THE IN THE FUND BALANCE FOR ALAN TO UTILIZE, THERE'S THAT. OR IF THERE'S NOT, THEN YOU GUYS COULD MOVE TOWARDS THE OS OR GIVE SOME FLEXIBILITY ON THE WHATEVER. 
          YOU REALLY HAVE TO PUSH THIS OUT. YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD TIME OF YEAR TO START LOOKING AT SAVINGS. I, I FEEL COMFORTABLE TO GET THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE, I THINK TWO WEEKS AGO, WE SPENT 800,000 OF OUR SAVINGS ON GOING TO TYLER FROM SOUTHERN SOFTWARE. AND THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER REQUESTS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH. 
          WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NAIL IT DOWN. AND WE'RE NOT TAKING THIS INTO A DEFICIT ISSUE. JUST KEEP THIS KEEPS IT FLEXIBLE FOR THE COURT, THOUGH, RIGHT. COMMISSIONER JONES'S MOTION KEEPS IT FLEXIBLE FOR YOU GUYS. SO IF THERE'S NOT MONEY IN SAY FOR 3.5 MILLION. 
          THAT'S TAX NOTES. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. WHY DON'T WE MODIFY THE MOTION TO WHERE I. I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO JUST MOVE TO APPROVE COSTS PROPOSAL AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON AN AMENDMENT. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT UP FIRST. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          ALL OPPOSED? OKAY. 321. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE INFORMATION. WE'LL WORK ON THE FINANCING SIDE TO FIGURE OUT IF WHAT WE'VE GOT IN COST SAVINGS. YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HAVE SOME COST SAVINGS, BUT THERE'S ALSO NEEDS. BUT WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT. AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO GET SOME TAX NOTES TO COVER THE DIFFERENCE. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET TO THAT REAL NUMBER IS THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO. YOU KNOW, WE SAW IT WITH THIS BUILDING. WE THOUGHT IT WAS A $33 MILLION BUILDING AND THEN IT BECAME A 44. WELL, IT'S LESS THAN 44 BECAUSE WE SAVED A MILLION AND A HALF. SO LET'S SAY $42.5 MILLION. BUT PEOPLE WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, COULDN'T BELIEVE IT'S LIKE. BUT UNTIL YOU GET THAT GMP, YOU HAVE REAL NUMBERS. IT'S JUST IT'S AN ESTIMATE. I MEAN, AND, AND WHO'S TO SAY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW? BECAUSE THAT PROCESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIX MONTH PROCESS, CORRECT? RIGHT. WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS THAT COULD IMPACT OUR ECONOMY, OUR INFLATION ESCALATION, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY THE STUFF WITH IRAN GETS RESOLVED AND OIL PRICES PLUMMET AND COSTS GO DOWN. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO PLAN. I AIN'T GOING TO BANK ON THAT. ANYWAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE TO 55. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON 55. THIS IS APPLICATION NUMBER 43. THIS IS ON THE COURTHOUSE, CORRECT? YES, SIR. THIS IS OUR STANDARD MONTHLY PAY APPLICATION. THE COURTHOUSE IS WINDING DOWN. THERE WILL BE A FEW MORE OF THESE. AND THEN THE $1.5 MILLION COST SAVINGS WILL BE IN ONE OF THESE CHANGE ORDERS. I KNOW, I KNOW, WE MUST BE GETTING CLOSE ON THE THIRD FLOOR BECAUSE THE PANELS CAME DOWN ON THE EMPLOYEE ELEVATOR, AND IT LOOKS ALMOST LIKE A NORMAL ELEVATOR. FLOORING, I THINK IS LATER THIS WEEK. THIS WEEKEND THE FLOOR WILL GO IN THE ELEVATOR, BUT WE'RE WINDING DOWN. THE THIRD FLOOR IS PRETTY MUCH FINISHED. PUNCHES HAVE BEEN DONE OR THIS PROJECT IS WINDING DOWN. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 55? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED. 55 CARRIES. 
          THANK YOU DANNY. ALL RIGHT. LET'S WE GOTTA JUMP BACK NOW. JUDGE, DO YOU MIND IF WE JUST GET THROUGH SOME OF THE AGENDA BEFORE SOME OF THESE PRESENTATIONS? SO I THINK LIKE TAKING UP 46 THROUGH 49, I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF LENGTHY CONVERSATION UPON THOSE. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO AND THEN BECAUSE WE HAVE WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION FROM LJA YEAH, 
          [COUNTY COURT AT LAW]
          [01:55:04]
THAT'S FINE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE UP. 443 YEAH. MOTION. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND ON 43 THIS IS A POINT JUDGE. OH THERE IS I'M SORRY. BEFORE WE HAD THE MOTION. IT'S JUNE 12TH, NOT JUNE 10TH. I'M SORRY, I HAVE THAT CORRECTION. SO IS THAT YOUR MOTION TO JUNE 12TH? THAT'S MY MOTION. OKAY. SO THIS IS TO APPOINT JUDGE ELECT BENNETT DODSON AS COUNTY COURT AT LAW JUDGE EFFECTIVE JUNE 12TH. BENNETT WAS SUCCESSFUL IN THE RUNOFF AND HE HAS NO OPPONENT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PUT BENNETT INTO PLACE SO THAT HE CAN START WORKING. I KNOW HE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO IT AND WE GET A FULL TIME JUDGE. YES, AND HE WOULD BE HERE JUDGE IF HE WEREN'T WAITING ON A VERDICT RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. SEAN IS SQUEEZING EVERYTHING HE CAN OUT OF BENNETT BEFORE HE BECOMES JUDGE. YOU KNOW ACTUALLY THIS IS A VERDICT HERE TO. WELL, I GUESS I'M HIS. WELL AGAIN CONGRATULATIONS TO BENNETT. 
          LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM. I KNOW HE IS READY TO GET STARTED AND I'M ANXIOUS BECAUSE THIS WILL BE ONCE WE GET HIM INTO PLACE AND WE FINISH THIS THIRD FLOOR, IT'LL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAVE ALL OF OUR COURTS WITH DEDICATED COURT SPACE, ALL RUNNING FULL SPEED AHEAD. SO THAT'S EXCITING. HOPEFULLY WE'LL WE'LL MAKE SOME HEADWAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 43. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED 43 CARRIES. LET'S TAKE UP. WELL WE NEED TO SEPARATE THEM BECAUSE YOU YOU HAVE TO 
          [COUNTY ENGINEER]
ABSTAIN ON THE. OKAY, SO LET'S TAKE UP 44. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION ON 44. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. GOOD MORNING ROSS. ANYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW ON 44 OTHER THAN IT'S JUST A FORMAL NOTICE FOR INSTALLATION OF WATER AND SEWER IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. NO, SIR. 
          IS VERY SELF-EXPLANATORY. NOTHING UNIQUE ABOUT THIS. OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, SIR. WE ARE BOTH CATCHING CONSIDERABLE GRIEF ON ANOTHER ROAD WHERE A DEVELOPER IS INSTALLING SOME WATER LINE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING IN THIS CASE? SO WE DO REQUIRE. SURETY BEFORE WE ISSUE A PERMIT. SO THERE IS A RIGHT OF WAY RESTORATION SURETY THAT WE REQUIRE AND WE KEEP ON FILE. BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MENTION THAT THE UTILITY COMPANIES, THEY DO HAVE THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMPANIES DO HAVE RIGHTS WITHIN OUR RIGHT OF WAY. SO WE CAN'T DENY IT. BUT WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE HAVE INSPECTORS THAT ARE GOING OUT AND CHECKING WITH THESE THINGS. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME FRUSTRATION THERE. WE WILL DO WHAT WE CAN WITHIN OUR. RESPONSIBILITIES AND LIMITS, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME KIND OF SURETY TO ENSURE THAT THEY RESTORE THAT. YEAH, I GUESS, WELL, SURETY HAS TO BE CALLED IN TO BE USED. AND WE BOTH KNOW THAT'S A PRETTY LENGTHY PROCESS. 
          YES. DOESN'T SOLVE THE IMMEDIATE PROBLEM, BUT THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 44? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. AND ONE ABSTENTION. OH ABSTAIN. SORRY. ONE ABSTAIN. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE TO 45 MOTION. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, ROSS AGAIN, IT'S SELF-EXPLANATORY. I DID WANT TO ESTABLISH SOME KIND OF REIMBURSEMENT POLICY SO THAT THIS ENSURES THAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE USING SAFE FOOTWEAR, SO WE AVOID ANY ISSUES WITH INJURIES IN THE WORKPLACE. IT'S A SMALL INCENTIVE, BUT WE'VE CODIFIED IT IN THIS POLICY THAT I THINK IS REASONABLE, AND WE CAN TRACK IT AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS EFFICIENTLY AND RESPONSIBLY. OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          [PROCUREMENT DIRECTOR]
ALL OPPOSED. 45 CARRIES. THANK YOU ROSS. PURPOSES WITH THOMPSON. REUTERS. THIS IS I 
          [DIRECTOR OF POLICY & ADMINISTRATION]
          [02:08:38]
DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I YIELD I GOT SOME STATEMENTS. NO I'M JUST GLAD TO SEE THAT. YOU 
          [02:08:43]
KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH GINGER BEING, YOU KNOW, A PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR SOME TIME NOW AND, YOU KNOW, GET SOME EXTRA HELP AND SUPPORT IS A GOOD THING. WE HAVE THE WORDING IN A WAY THAT I THINK IS A LITTLE BROAD. WE USED TO ATTACH A DOLLAR AMOUNT, AND THIS TIME WE SAID THE PROPORTIONAL COST, WHICH ALLOWS FOR US TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY. 
          AND WHAT IF THERE ARE IF THE COSTS DO GO UP OR DOWN, WHATNOT, WE'RE NOT STUCK ON ONE PRICE. 
          WE'RE GETTING THE ACTUAL PROPORTIONAL COST OF WHAT THE ROAD WILL COST THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE, INSTEAD OF BEING SET AT SOME MAXIMUM NUMBER. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 52 I THINK. WE PUT A LOT OF STRAIN ON OUR DEPARTMENTS. WHERE ARE WE GOING. THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WHICH WE WANT TO SEE. I THINK FOR WHAT WE WHAT WE'RE GOING. IT TAKES EVERYONE TO BE ON BOARD. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE DEVELOPER HERE FOR HELPING THE COUNTY OUT WITH A FEW ISSUES THAT WE HAVE. I ALSO DON'T THINK THAT WE THINK ROBERT ENOUGH. I KNOW 
          [02:10:01]
SOMETIMES I DON'T, BUT I APPRECIATE BOBBY FOR BEING A PART OF A LOT OF THE CALLS AND KNOWING WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO EACH COMMISSIONER, BECAUSE THIS IS A DEAL THAT'S IN COMMISSIONER SMITH'S AREA, BUT IT BUTTS UP TO AN AREA WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME CONGESTION AND TRAFFIC WITH THE HOMES THAT COME IN THAT AREA. AND SO APPRECIATE ROSS FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT, FOR JUMPING ON CALLS AND THE ENGINEERING STAFF AND JUST EVERYONE FOR BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYONE GETS STRESSED IN, BUT ALSO BEING ABLE TO GROW TOGETHER AND LEAD DEVELOPMENT IN A WAY THAT, THAT WE SEE POSSIBLY BE BEST AND FIT. AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES THAT THE COUNTY COULD COULD SAY THAT IT WAS A WIN WIN SITUATION FOR US AS WELL. SO VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I DO WANT TO POINT OUT MARCUS SPENCER AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER A LONG TIME. THAT IS HIS HAPPY FACE RIGHT THERE. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK MARCUS FOR FOR EVERYTHING. HE'S BEEN VERY FLEXIBLE. HE'S HE'S BEEN A GREAT PERSON TO, TO WORK WITH. WE USED TO BE ON THE SAME SIDE. SO NOW NOW THAT HE'S ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF IT, FUN WORKING WITH HIM. SO MARCUS, I APPRECIATE YOU AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNTY STAFF WORKING SO HARD TO GET THIS DONE. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. HEARING NONE THEN. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED? 52 CARRIES. THANK YOU. ROBERT. OKAY, LET'S DO THESE 
          [MISCELLANEOUS]
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS AND THEN WE'LL GET TO LJA LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE UP 56 MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND ON 56 THIS IS JUST A RESOLUTION. BASICALLY I THINK THESE THE PFEIFFER FAMILY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THEY SOLD US THE LAND THAT THE ANNEX IS GOING TO BE LOCATED ON. 
          SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A DEFINITIVE NAME OF A FAMILY MEMBER AS OF YET, BUT WE'LL WE'LL WORK ON THAT. AND THIS IS JUST A RESOLUTION THAT WE WILL NAME THE ANNEX BUILDING AFTER THE PFEIFFER FAMILY. I GUESS YOU YOU CAN OR THERE'S SOME OPTIONS OUT THERE. IF THE COURT CHOOSE FIT TO GO IN THE DIRECTION OF THOSE OPTIONS. ME AND MR. KIRK WILL PROBABLY. I THINK IT WAS THREE LINEAGE OF HEIFERS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE IF THE COURT WOULD WANT TO MOVE TOWARDS EITHER THE HEIFER FAMILY ANNEX OR THE A A HEIFER ANNEX FACILITY. BUT ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS. WHAT IF IT'S JUST THE PFEIFFER ANNEX? I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE COOL TOO. SO I ACCEPT THAT. I WILL, I GUESS, AMEND THE MOTION TO. WHAT WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE ANNEX? MOTION? AND SECOND, URIEL, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THIS OR. NO, WE HAVE A RESOLUTION ON HAND. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, BECAUSE I THINK FOR THE RESOLUTION WE'RE LEAVING IT OPEN. WE JUST REFERENCED. YEAH. IT JUST SAYS THAT THE NAME WILL BEAR THE NAME PFEIFFER. YEAH. WHICH PFEIFFER ANNEX ACCOMPLISHES THAT. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? I GUESS THAT'S AN AMENDMENT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAD A PRIOR MOTION, CORRECT? ACTUALLY, NAME IT PFEIFFER ANNEX. I WOULD IS THE FOR THE SAKE OF YOU DON'T NEED AN AMENDMENT. SHOULD WE GIVE A REASON FOR NAMING IT? THAT. 
          OTHER BUILDINGS COME UP IN THE FUTURE? SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU NAME IT AFTER US OR WHATEVER IS THERE? I DON'T KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT ME. I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHAT YOU HAVE. BUT IN THIS CASE, IT'S FAMILY DONATED THE LAND. 
          IT'S YEAH, YEAH YEAH, YEAH. I THINK THE RESOLUTION SPEAKS TO THAT. I MEAN, AND THE LAND. SO I THINK THE RESOLUTION COVERS EVERYTHING. SO YOU COULD MAYBE YOU WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION. WE ALREADY HAD A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION OR THE PROCLAMATION. ALL RIGHT. SO I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. OKAY. SO MOTION BE WITHDRAWN. SECOND. OKAY. ALL. SO AS FAR AS THE ORIGINAL MOTION, I THINK EVERYTHING'S COVERED IN THE RESOLUTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON IT? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED THAT RESOLUTION IS APPROVED. ALL RIGHT. I'LL PASS IT AROUND FOR SIGNATURE. ALL RIGHT. LET'S TAKE UP NUMBER 57. THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE FIREWORKS FOR 4TH OF JULY MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION. 
          AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL 
          [02:15:01]
OPPOSED CARRIES. AND THEN LET'S TAKE UP 58. THIS IS THE SCHEDULE FOR 2027 FOR COMMISSIONERS COURT, MOTION, MOTION. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED 58 CARRIES. AND THEN THE LAST IS 59 MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND ON 59. JUST LET ME SEE. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE IN THE PACKET. 
          THIS IS JUST WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT I KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, BUT WHAT ARE WE. SO WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO. I KNOW THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT LIKE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH COLLECTION, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO HIRE OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO DO SO. I THINK WE JUST NEED YOU ALL TO DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DISCUSS. I KNOW WELL, WITHOUT GETTING INTO WHAT WAS IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WAS RELATED TO HIRING OUTSIDE COUNSEL. IF YOU NEED TO PURSUE LITIGATION TO COLLECT THIS. 
          YEAH, I'M NOT GOING TO COLLECT THIS. THIS IS OKAY. SO WHAT WHAT HAD HAPPENED WAS THERE WAS GRANT FUNDS THAT CAME DOWN AND THERE APPARENTLY WAS A WAS A SLIGHT OVERPAYMENT TO CERTAIN EMPLOYEES OF THE DA'S OFFICE. CORRECT? CORRECT. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT'S LARGE AMOUNTS, ROUGHLY. IT'S LESS THAN 6000, ROUGHLY ABOUT 5.5. YEAH. SPREAD OUT OVER 5 OR 6. I THINK, SOME OF WHOM, SOME OF WHOM HAD THEIR DEPARTMENT TO WRITE THAT. WHAT. YEAH. SOME OF WHOM DO NOT WORK ANY LONGER FOR THE COUNTY. CORRECT. CORRECT. SO YOU HAVE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE GROUPS HERE. SO YOU HAVE THOSE WHO ARE YOUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES WHO ARE STILL WORKING HERE. AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO AND HAVE MADE PAYMENTS TOWARDS PAYING THAT BACK THEN YOU HAVE THE FORMER EMPLOYEES, ONLY ONE OF WHICH WHO WHO DID MAKE A PAYMENT. SO WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO DO IS, IS UP TO YOU ALL. QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO PURSUE COLLECTION, WHICH WOULD COST US MORE, WHICH WILL COST US AS MUCH, IF NOT MORE THAN THE AMOUNT WE'RE TRYING TO GET COVERED? SO I, I THINK YOU'RE THROWING GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD, GIVEN THE AMOUNT IN CONTROVERSY. 
          I'M JUST KIDDING. YOU GO AND HIRE AN ATTORNEY. YOU SPEND, YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND AS MUCH AS THE AMOUNT YOU'RE TRYING TO COLLECT. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD. MAKE THAT MOTION. WELL, THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT TOO, IS YOU'RE THEN GOING TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE TREATING ONE GROUP DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER, HOW YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT, BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, IF THEY QUIT, THAT'S OKAY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THEM PAY IT BACK. 
          WE'RE EXPECTING THEM TO PAY IT BACK. NOW WE REFUND THE FUNDS BACK. IT'S UP TO YOU ALL. AND I'LL FULL DISCLOSURE, I WAS ON THAT LIST. I THINK MINE WAS LESS THAN $800. I THINK IT WAS LESS THAN FIVE. I WANT TO SAY IT WAS ABOUT THREE, BUT I'M NOT 100% CERTAIN AT THIS POINT. I JUST I THINK YOU GOT TO TREAT EVERYBODY FAIRLY. I THINK IF YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE STILL WORKING FOR OUR DA'S OFFICE. AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS DO ANYTHING THAT DEMORALIZES THESE INDIVIDUALS AND BEEN ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB IN THE BEST TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY. I DON'T WANT TO ADD TO IT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY REALIZE THAT THESE EMPLOYEES WERE NOT AWARE AT THE TIME THAT THIS HAPPENED, THAT THAT WAS HAPPENING. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY WERE GETTING OVERPAID AND THEY KNEW IT. AND, AND CORRECT. WE WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT A YEAR AFTER IT HAPPENED. THAT'S WHEN WE WERE INFORMED, HEY, THERE WAS THIS OVERPAYMENT. LIKE I SAID, IT WASN'T A LARGE SUM IN THE GRAND TOTAL OF THINGS. AND IT WAS SPREAD OUT OVER MORE THAN TEN EMPLOYEES. AND THOSE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY PAID TAXES ON THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY. THAT'S CORRECT. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORD IT, BUT YEAH, I WOULD I WOULD BE FOR IS JUST HELP US WITH, I THINK IF YOU WANT TO AMEND THE MOTION, IF YOUR GOAL IS TO NOT COLLECT IT, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. IF YOUR GOAL IS TO NOT COLLECT IT, YOU CAN MAKE THAT MOTION TO CEASE COLLECTION EFFORTS. ALL RIGHT. 
          WHAT ABOUT NOT COLLECTING? YEAH, THAT'S AN OPTION YOU HAVE AS WELL. SO IF YOU'RE CHOOSING TO ESSENTIALLY NOT COLLECT IT AND REFUND ANYTHING THAT WAS COLLECTED AND JUST CALL THIS A WASH, YOU CAN DO THAT TOO. I SECOND THE MOTION. AND SECOND, ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT YOU 
          [02:20:03]
JUST SAID, OKAY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WHAT DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? SO WHAT WE MAY HAVE TO CONTINUE. I WANT TO TALK TO JOHN. YOU TABLE IT UNTIL SHE'S BACK. YEAH. THERE'S NO NEED TO HANDLE IT TODAY. ABSOLUTELY. IS THERE? NO. THERE'S NO REASON YOU HAVE TO HANDLE IT TODAY. BUT I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO CREATE. YOU'RE EITHER GOING TO CREATE PAPERWORK OR YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE LITIGATION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. WHY DON'T WE LET'S TABLE THIS UNTIL JOAN'S BACK AND THEN MAKE SURE IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES ON HER MOTION. YOU MOVE TO TABLE. YEAH. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND TO TABLE. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION WILL BE TABLED. WE'LL BRING IT 
          [GRANT MANAGER]
BACK UP NEXT MEETING. OKAY. SO THE REST IS GOING TO BE LET'S NOW JUMP BACK TO NUMBER 42, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A PRESENTATION BY LJ, A ENGINEERING RELATIVE TO THE STATUS OF THE COUNTY'S MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN, FUNDED BY CDBG. MIT MONIES. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. SO. THE COUNTY HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH LJ A TO PERFORM A MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN AS PART OF THE CDBG MIT GRANT. AND A LOT OF WORK GOES ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. YOU DON'T SEE. 
          BUT. SO WE DID ASK WILL CONLON AND DANIEL DODSON FROM LJ A, WHO ARE WORKING ON THIS TEAM TO PREPARE A MASTER PLAN TO COME AND JUST KIND OF UPDATE THE COURT REAL BRIEFLY ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON AND AND GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS. SO WITH THAT WE'LL. 
          CONLON LJ COOL. SO HOPEFULLY THIS LINKS UP AND. CAN GET US BACK ON OUR. OKAY. I PROMISE TO GO FAST. I KNOW THIS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DATA. IT'S GOING TO BE A SLIGHT OVERLOAD. 
          IT'S KIND OF ON PURPOSE. WE ALSO SUBMITTED THE TECHNICAL MEMO NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS A WRITTEN DOCUMENT, 6070 PAGES OF OUR EXISTING CONDITION FINDINGS AND THE MODEL RESULTS. SO THIS IS KIND OF A GRAPHICAL IMAGE SUMMARY OF THAT. AGAIN, I AM WILLIAM CONLON, THE SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER AT LJ FOR THE MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN. WITH ME IS DANIEL DODSON, WHO'S MY A P M ON THIS PROJECT, WE HAVE COMPLETED THE EXISTING CONDITION MODELING FOR ALL OF THE SIX WATERSHEDS WITHIN WALLER COUNTY. WE HAVE SOME IMAGES WE CAN SHOW OF THE RESULTS AND THE FINDINGS OF THOSE ANALYSIS. ALONG WITH OUR KIND OF METRICS WE USE TO IDENTIFY SOME OF THE PROBLEM AREAS TO HELP IDENTIFY SOME OF THE AREAS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT FOR POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS. THE NET GOAL OF THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN TO UPDATE THE MODELING USING SOME OF THE NEW DATA, LEVERAGING AS MUCH INFORMATION WE CAN TO UNDERSTAND THE TRUE FLOOD RISK OUTSIDE OF THE RIVERINE FLOODPLAINS, AND DEVELOP POTENTIAL PROJECTS TO BE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE STATE FLOOD PLAN TO THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, SO THEY CAN BE APPLICABLE FOR FLOOD INFRASTRUCTURE FUND GRANT APPLICATIONS. SO THAT'S THE ULTIMATE INTENT OF THIS, IS TO DEVELOP A LIST OF PROJECTS, IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM AREAS, AND START TO HAVE THE INFORMATION TO THE STATE SO IT CAN BE SCORED, RANKED AND PRIORITIZED WITHIN THE STATE FLOOD PLAN. SO OUR THE LAYOUT OF WALLER COUNTY IS WE HAVE EFFECTIVELY THREE WATERSHEDS THAT DRAIN TOWARDS THE HARRIS COUNTY SIDE AND THREE THAT DRAIN TOWARDS THE BRAZOS RIVERSIDE. THE TOP TWO WE MODELED AS ONE SYSTEM, NEW YORK CREEK AND BEASON CREEK. CLEAR CREEK WAS ITS OWN MODEL. AND THEN BESSIE'S AND MILL KIND OF ROLLED INTO ONE MODEL, AND THEN THE BLUE AREA DOWN IN THE SOUTH ADDICKS AND BARKER RESERVOIR THAT IS OVERLAPPED WITH THE BROOKSHIRE KATY DRAINAGE DISTRICT, AND THEY ARE IN THE WORKS OF DOING THEIR OWN MASTER DRAINAGE PLAN. SO WE DIDN'T FOCUS A WHOLE LOT OF EFFORT IN THAT REGION BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THE EXACT SAME PARALLEL EFFORT. AND THEN WE ANALYZED LITTLE CYPRESS, CYPRESS CREEK IN THE LIGHT GREEN AND THEN WALNUT SPRING CREEK UP IN THE TOP. SO KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF THE FRONT END INFORMATION, THE SUMMARY. WE ANALYZED MULTIPLE STORM EVENTS, BUT ULTIMATELY THE GOAL WAS TO IDENTIFY THE FLOOD METRICS AND SOME OF THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS TO HELP SCORE, RANK, PRIORITIZE PROBLEM AREAS, AND START TO DEVELOP A LIST OF INFORMATION. SO AGAIN, HERE'S A QUICK SUMMARY OF STRUCTURES THAT WERE IMPACTED BY THE RESULTING FLOODPLAIN ELEVATIONS WITHIN THE DIFFERENT WATERSHEDS. ONE OF THE TECHNIQUES WE'VE USED FOR THE STRUCTURES IS ASSUMED ELEVATION 
          [02:25:03]
OF THE FIRST FLOOR, THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION TO WHERE IT RELATES TO NATURAL GROUND. SO WE SEE IF THE WATER GETS INTO THE HOUSE OR NOT, AND HOW DEEP THAT WATER CAN GET. 
          AGAIN, MOBILE HOMES ARE ABOUT THREE FEET AND MOST EVERY OTHER STRUCTURE THROUGH SITE VISITS, THROUGH HISTORICAL SURVEY DATA ON OTHER SIMILAR AREAS IN THIS REGION PUT US ABOUT ONE FOOT ABOVE NATURAL GROUND IS A GOOD STARTING POINT. THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME HOUSES THAT ARE BUILT AT GRADE. THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME THAT ARE BUILT A LITTLE BIT UP, BUT ON AVERAGE IT KIND OF WORKS ITS WAY INTO THE NUMBERS AND IT MAKES THE MATH PRETTY EASY. 
          WITH REGARDS TO THE ROADS, WE LOOKED AT ANYTHING OVER SIX INCHES OF PONDING ON THE ROAD. 
          CONSIDER THAT ROAD TO BE INUNDATED OR IMPASSABLE. SO THESE ARE KIND OF THE METRICS AND SUMMARIES REAL QUICK. AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO DANIEL. HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT EACH OF THE WATERSHEDS AND THE RESULTING INFORMATION. AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT OUR PROBLEM AREAS AND KIND OF WHERE WE'RE GOING NEXT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE EACH WATERSHED ONE BY ONE AND JUST KIND OF LOOK AT SOME OF THE RESULTS OF IT REAL QUICK. 
          THE WALNUT CREEK SPRING CREEK WATERSHED IS IN THE NORTHEAST SECTION. WE DID MODEL UP NORTH OF WALLER COUNTY SO THAT WE COULD GET CONTRIBUTING WATERSHEDS AS WELL. FOR THE TEN YEAR. YOU CAN SEE THE RED DOTS REPRESENT AREAS WHERE STRUCTURES WERE BEING IMPACTED, THE YELLOW LINES, AND I APOLOGIZE ON SOME OF THESE IMAGES IMAGES. THE YELLOW LINES ARE A LITTLE HARDER TO SEE, BUT THOSE ARE ROADWAYS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THE WATER. THE LIGHT BLUE IS THE WELL YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE LEGEND, THE DEPTH OF WATER BASED ON THE COLOR OF BLUE. AND SO WE FOUND LIKE THREE MAJOR SOURCES OF FLOODING IN THIS AREA WERE THE THREE MILE CREEK, THE BRUSHY CREEK, THE DOWNSTREAM PART OF WALNUT CREEK. AND AS YOU SEE IN THE LARGER EVENTS, THAT WAS THE TEN YEAR. THIS IS THE 100 YEAR, AND THEN THIS IS THE 500 YEAR EVENT. ONE AREA THAT DOES BECOME QUITE WIDESPREAD IS THE UPSTREAM PART OF BRUSHY CREEK AND WALNUT CREEK. IT BEGINS TO HAVE A LOT OF OVERLAND FLOW IN THAT AREA WHERE IT'S RATHER FLAT, AND NOT A LOT OF DESIGNATED CHANNELS. AND SO WE GET A LOT MORE STRUCTURE IMPACT IN LARGER EVENTS UP IN THAT AREA AS WELL. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE DOWNSTREAM ENDS HAVING LARGER AND LARGER. THESE RED DOTS ARE BASED ON THE ASSUMPTIONS YOU MADE ABOUT FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION. THESE ARE NOT BASED ON CLAIMS THROUGH FEMA. CORRECT. THIS IS IN OUR MODELS WE TAKE THE LIDAR, THE ELEVATION OF THE GROUND, AND WE ADD ONE FEET FOR RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL. BECAUSE THROUGH STUDIES WE HAVE DONE PREVIOUSLY AND SURVEY WE HAVE DONE IN DEPTH, WE FIND THAT THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD ESTIMATE FOR OUR FOUNDATION FOR THOSE TYPE OF STRUCTURES. AND WE USE THREE FEET FOR MOBILE HOMES. AND WE ADJUST THE LIDAR TO THAT TO SEE WHAT STRUCTURES ARE IMPACTED. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LOCALIZATION IS FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT IN WALNUT CREEK. AND OUR NEXT SECTION WAS THE BEESON CREEK IN NEW YORK CREEK. 
          THIS WAS OUR LEAST IMPACTED AREA. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE TEN YEAR, THERE WAS ONLY ONE STRUCTURE AND VERY LITTLE ROADWAY. IT'S MUCH STEEPER HERE AND DROPS OFF INTO THE BRAZOS RIVER MUCH QUICKER. AND IT IT'S RATHER WIDESPREAD WHERE THOSE STRUCTURES ARE. AND NEAR THE LARGER CREEK ARE TRIBUTARIES TO THE BRAZOS RIVER IN THIS AREA. THE THIRD ONE IS THE CREEK. 
          CLEAR CREEK, BRAZOS RIVER MODEL. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS ALSO INCLUDES HEMPSTEAD IN IT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAJOR AREAS OF IMPACTS AS WE HAVE MUCH MORE CROSSINGS IN THAT AREA AND WATERWAYS GOING NEARBY. YOU ALSO HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION OF IMPACTS NEAR THE ROLLING HILLS LAKE AREA, PART OF GLADISH CREEK, WHICH IS KIND OF TO THAT NORTH NORTHEAST AREA OF THIS MAP. AND THEN IN THE SOUTHWEST IS KIND OF SOUTH OF PRAIRIE VIEW. THERE'S SEVERAL NEW DEVELOPMENTS OR OLDER DEVELOPMENTS IN THAT AREA THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THE THREE MILE CREEK THERE, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT THREE MILE CREEK IS A IS THAT DAM THAT IS ON THE GLADISH CREEK A PROBLEM CAUSING SOME OF THIS STUFF IN ROLLING HILLS? THAT IS OUR NEXT STEP. 
          WE'RE TAKING THESE PROBLEM AREAS AND WE'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE. THE PROBLEM AREAS WERE SIGNIFICANTLY FOCUSING ON. AND WE'RE ALREADY AS A GROUP WORKING ON THOSE. WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS OF BREAKING THOSE PROBLEM AREAS, THOSE CLUSTERS THAT WILLIAM WILL SHOW YOU HERE IN A MINUTE. AND WE'RE BREAKING DOWN THE CAUSATION FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE PROBLEM AREAS. WHAT'S CAUSING THAT FLOODING? AND THEN THE NEXT STEP, AFTER WE FIND THAT CAUSE WILL BE FINDING POSSIBLE FUTURE SOLUTIONS THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE TEXAS FLOOD PLAN AND GET FUNDING THROUGH THEM, HOPEFULLY. AND SO THOSE ARE OUR NEXT STEPS. AND SO AS FAR AS CAUSATION TODAY, I DON'T HAVE THAT AS THAT IS THE PROCESS WE ARE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. THE LITTLE CYPRESS CYPRESS CREEK AREA. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS INCLUDES WALLER 
          [02:30:03]
ITSELF, THE CITY OF WALLER, AND THEN ALSO EAST AND SOUTHEAST OF PRAIRIE VIEW. AND THOSE ARE TWO AREAS THAT HAD PROBABLY MOST OF THE IMPACT IN THIS AREA 100 YEAR AND THE 500 YEAR. YOU ALSO START TO GET SOME IMPACT ALONG SNAKE CREEK AND MOUND CREEK. THE UPSTREAM AREAS OF THOSE START TO OVERFLOW THEIR BANKS IN LARGER EVENTS AND START TO IMPACT SOME STRUCTURES AND ROADWAYS. BUT AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF IMPACT BEING IN WALLER AND THAT SOUTHEAST OF PRAIRIE VIEW AREA. THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS ONE, OF COURSE, GETS INTO THE ADDICKS RESERVOIR TYPE AREA, WHERE IT JUST BACKS UP AND BECOMES A LARGE POND. THE BESSEY CREEK, MILL CREEK. 
          THIS WAS OUR LARGEST IMPACTED AREA. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT INCLUDES BROOKSHIRE. IT ALSO HAS THE MOST WIDE DIVERSITY OF IMPACTS ACROSS THE AREA. IT'S NOT AS CENTRALIZED AS SOME OF THE OTHER MODELS. YOU'LL SEE THERE'S JUST A NETWORK OF TRIBUTARIES THERE, MANY OF THEM IMPACTING STRUCTURES AND ROADWAYS HERE AND THERE. THE BKD STUDY ALSO DOES EXTEND PRETTY FAR INTO THE OUR BESSEY MILL CREEK MODEL. THEY OVERLAP SIGNIFICANTLY AS BROOKSHIRE WAS PART OF THE BKD STUDY AS WELL. SO AS WE GO ON THE 100 YEAR, YOU START TO SEE IMPACTS SOUTH OF I-10 ALONG THE BRAZOS FLOODPLAIN AND THOSE. THOSE IMPACTS. THESE MODELS HAVE THE BRAZOS RIVER FLOODPLAIN IN THEM. BUT THIS INUNDATION MAPPING IS NOT WITH THE BRAZOS AT ITS PEAK. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YES. WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE BRAZOS FLOW IN THESE. THIS IS JUST DUE TO RAIN ON MESH IN THE DRAINAGE AREA. SO THESE ARE LOCAL PONDING LOCAL FLOODING NOT CAUSED. NOT BECAUSE THE BRAZOS BACKED OUT BECAUSE WATER IS TRYING TO GET TO THE BRAZOS. YEAH. WILLIAM. 
          IN A MINUTE WE'LL SHOW YOU THE STUDY WE DID ALONG THE BRAZOS WHERE WE DID INCLUDE THE BRAZOS FLOWS COMING DOWN. AND THAT ENTIRE BRAZOS FLOODPLAIN GETS PRETTY FILLED UP IN THE 100 YEAR. SO THESE STRUCTURES WOULD MOST LIKELY BE IMPACTED IN THAT AS WELL. ALONG THAT BRAZOS FLOODPLAIN, OUR LAST ONE IS THE BKD STUDY. IT WAS DONE BY QUIDDITY ENGINEERING ON BEHALF OF BKD. WE DID NOT WANT TO REDO WHAT THEY WERE CURRENTLY DOING WITH US AND USE OUR FUNDS BETTER, BUT THEY DID PROVIDE US SOME OF THEIR RESULTS. THEY DID THE TWO, TEN AND 100 YEAR RESULTS THEY HAVE. WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN STRUCTURE AND ROADWAY IMPACTS FROM THEM. BUT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAPS HERE, THIS IS THEIR INUNDATION MAPS, WHERE WE HAD DONE A TOTAL 2D MODEL. THEY DID A 1D 2D TO GET A BETTER LOOK AT THE SNAKE CREEK, WILLOW CREEK AND BERKSHIRE CREEK, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE MAJOR FOCUS AS THAT WENT THROUGH THE TOWNS AND WAS A MAJOR SOURCE OF FLOODING. AND SO YOU SEE THE TEN YEAR AND THE 100 YEAR. AND THESE WERE PROVIDED TO US BY BKD AND QUIDDITY. THIS IS A LIST OF WHAT GAGES YOU HAVE IN YOUR COUNTY. WE DID A SEARCH THROUGH ALL THE AGENCIES WE COULD THINK OF WHO WOULD HAVE SOME. THIS IS WHO THEY ARE OWNED BY AND OPERATED BY THEIR LOCATIONS, AS WELL AS WHAT INFORMATION THEY GIVE. THE FOUR BASIC INFORMATIONS WATER ELEVATION, DISCHARGE FLOWS, PRECIPITATION AS WELL AS YOU HAVE ONE THAT DOES SOIL SATURATION. AND THESE ARE THEIR LOCATIONS. WE USE THESE TO GAGE AND TRY TO CALIBRATE OUR MODELS WITH. BUT THIS IS ALSO INFORMATION FOR YOU TO KNOW WHERE YOU CAN LOOK THESE UP. AND YOU CAN FIND THE INFORMATION FROM THESE GAGES ONLINE IS HCFWS HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD WARNING SYSTEM. THEY HAVE. MOST OF THEIRS ARE ON THE EAST SIDE. AS MANY OF YOUR RIVERS ON THE EAST SIDE OF YOUR COUNTY DO FLOW INTO MONTGOMERY HARRIS OR FORT BEND COUNTY. THE ONES ALONG THE BRAZOS. I BELIEVE MOST OF THOSE WERE USGS. AND I'LL HAND IT BACK TO WILLIAM. OKAY. SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT, WE TOOK ALL THE INFORMATION WE HAD FROM OUR FLOOD INUNDATION MAPPING, THE EXTENTS OF THE THE RESULTS OF THE MODELS OVERLAID THOSE WITH STRUCTURES, WITH ROADS, WITH AGRICULTURAL LAND, WITH A COUPLE OTHER METRICS AND DEVELOPED OR KIND OF MIRRORED THE GLOWS TECHNIQUE THAT THEY'RE USING FOR THE RIVER FLOOD BASIN, RIVER BASIN, FLOOD STUDIES, A SERIES OF HEXAGONS AND SCORING METRICS TO KIND OF AGGREGATE DIFFERENT STORM EVENTS. AND THE PERCENT RECURRENCE INTERVAL OF THOSE EVENTS AND THE STRUCTURES TO KIND OF AMPLIFY THINGS THAT FLOOD IN MULTIPLE EVENTS AND LIKE I SAY, SOFTEN, BUT NOT AS STRICT. IF A STRUCTURE ONLY FLOODS IN THE 500 YEAR EVENT PER SE. SO IT LETS AN AGGREGATION OF THE RESULTS AND YOU DEVELOP THIS KIND OF SERIES OF HOTSPOTS THROUGH THESE HEXAGONS AND ULTIMATELY ALLOWS US TO KIND OF PINPOINT IN SOME 
          [02:35:03]
OF THE PROBLEM AREAS. WE IDENTIFIED 17 PROBLEM AREAS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. 
          ADDITIONALLY, WORKING WITH ROSS OVER THE PAST YEAR, THERE HAVE BEEN ABOUT EIGHT PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED PROBLEM AREAS THAT WE HAD WORKED WITH HIM TO SUBMIT TO THE REGION. EIGHT FLOOD PLANNING GROUP. THAT WAS SOME PFMS, SOME FLOOD. WHAT IS IT, FLOOD MITIGATION EFFORTS SO THAT THE PROJECTS COULD BE INTO THE FLOODPLAIN. SO WE WERE ABLE TO FIND ABOUT EIGHT OF THESE THAT OVERLAPPED. SO WE DID HAVE SOME PRETTY GOOD COMFORT THAT WE WERE CONSISTENT IN THE IDENTIFICATION OF PROBLEM AREAS. AND SO AS WE JUMP IN, I DO HAVE A SERIES OF SLIDES FOR EACH OF THE PROBLEM AREAS. I'M GOING TO GO RELATIVELY QUICK THROUGH THIS. AGAIN, AS COMMISSIONER SMITH JUST ASKED, AND DANIEL ANSWERED, WE HAVE BEEN EVALUATING THE CAUSATION OF THESE CURRENTLY. WE PROBABLY GOT ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO TO GO THROUGH ALL 17, BUT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED WHAT THE WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE, WHAT THE KIND OF LOCATION OF THE PROBLEM AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. IS IT AN UNDERSIZED CULVERT? IS IT JUST A LOW DEPRESSED AREA? DOES IT HAVE AN INSUFFICIENT CHANNEL DEPTH? AND SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS ARE DO WE NEED TO IMPROVE SOME CULVERTS? DO WE NEED TO PROVIDE REGIONAL DETENTION? DO WE NEED TO DEEPEN A CHANNEL AND WAYS TO MITIGATE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AS WE GO FORWARD? SO THE CAUSATION EVALUATION IS BEING DONE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. AND THEN THE ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS WILL BE THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO PRIMARY BE ON WALNUT SPRING AGAIN, 36 STRUCTURES IN THE TEN YEAR AND 74 POP UP IN THE 100 YEAR. THE IMPACTED VALUES THAT YOU KIND OF SEE OFF TO THE SIDE, THOSE ARE IF THE STRUCTURE IS INUNDATED, IT IS THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. SO IT DOES INCLUDE THE LAND. SO IT IS KIND OF A SKEWED NUMBER. IT'S NOT JUST THE STRUCTURE VALUE IT'S THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. SO SOME OF THESE CAN GET A LITTLE HIGH. 
          WE'RE WE'RE FINDING THAT NUMBER. BUT IT'S IT HELPS WITH THE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE OF WHAT THE SYSTEMS ARE THAT ARE BEING IMPACTED. SO BROKEN. THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT'S BROKEN INTO LAND. THEY DO. YEAH. REACH. AND GRAB IMPROVEMENT VALUE INSTEAD. RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS. SO AT THIS POINT, WE DID A QUICK DEEP DIVE AND PULLED THE TOTAL VALUE. BUT YEAH, THE ULTIMATE INTENT IS TO PULL THE STRUCTURE VALUE AND START TO FLOODS THE. 
          CURIOSITY ABOUT OR ABOUT OR ROSS, IF ANYTHING COMES UP IN Y'ALL'S CONVERSATIONS, WE'RE DEFINITELY WILLING TO HAVE EITHER INDIVIDUAL WORKSHOPS ON A SPECIFIC PROBLEM AREA OR HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT DIFFERENT REGIONS OR RIVERS OR WATERSHEDS. SO THIS TODAY WAS MOSTLY MEANT TO BE A SHOW AND TELL, AND GEE, I NOTICED ON THAT TABLE THAT YOU HAD $111 MILLION WORTH OF DAMAGE. IT WAS BY FAR THE LARGEST OF ALL OF THE AREAS. WHAT IS IT IN WALLER THAT'S WORTH 100 MILLION? THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE SAMPLED IT. AGAIN, THIS WAS DONE BY ONE OF OUR SUBS, AND WE KIND OF HAD A TECH MEMBER FROM THEM. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING TO CLEAN THAT UP AND REFINE IT. BUT I BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE SOME OF THE ONES IN THE SOUTH ARE LARGER ACREAGE RANCHES OR A LARGER FOOTPRINT OF LAND WITH MAYBE ONE STRUCTURE. AND SO IT COULD SKEW THE RESULTS PRETTY QUICKLY. AND I THINK THERE MAY ALSO BE SOME JUST OUTSIDE THE THE MAP, LIKE IN TERMS OF THE NORTH, IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THE RED DOTS ARE GREAT. 29 AND , 
          [02:40:10]
THIS IS AGAIN, ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED AS A PRIOR PROBLEM AREA THAT WE HAD AN FM PUT TOGETHER, THE ROLLING HILLS COMMUNITY THAT YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT, COMMISSIONER SMITH. I THINK THAT WAS B OR C OR D, AND IT HAD ACTUALLY GO BACK TO REAL QUICK BECAUSE I KNOW YOU KIND OF ASKED ABOUT IT. SO EVALUATING THE BRAZOS RIVER FLOODPLAIN TO HELP WITH ROSS'S TEAM ON UNDERSTANDING THE FLOOD RISK WITH UPDATED MODELING AND UPDATED MAPPING, THIS IS KIND OF IN PARALLEL TO THE EFFORT THAT I BELIEVE HALF IS WORKING ON FOR THE BRAZOS RIVER UPDATE, I THINK Y'ALL. ARE YOU STILL HERE? YEAH, Y'ALL ARE A COUPLE MONTHS AWAY. YEAH. OKAY, SO THIS STUFF WE HAVE IS CLOSE. IT MATCHES WITHIN A COUPLE SIX INCHES OF THEIR INFORMATION, BUT THEY'RE DOING THEIR WORK TO A MUCH DEEPER DIVE TO FEMA REGULATORY EXAMPLES. AND SO THIS WAS HELPFUL WHEN WE DID IT. AND I THINK NOW WITH WITH HALF DATA, IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE VALUABLE FOR THEIR WORK MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN THE FINAL STEP, THEY ONLY GOT TWO MORE SLIDES LEFT. THE FINAL EFFORT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO IDENTIFY THE COUNTY'S COMPLETE INFRASTRUCTURE. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS WHEN I PRESENTED, I THINK ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THIS WAS SOME OF THE WORK WE WANT TO BE DOING, BUT IDENTIFYING THE EXISTING CHANNEL DEPTHS ACROSS THE COUNTY, SOME WAYS WE AUTOMATED THAT TECHNIQUE AND THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IT? WHERE WHERE ARE THE CHANNELS, HOW DEEP ARE THEY, WHAT IS THEIR CAPACITY? AND THEN WE START TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE DEEPEN THOSE CHANNELS TO IMPROVE THEM, TO HAVE MORE CAPACITY? WE'VE KIND OF USED 12FT AS A DESIRED DEPTH. AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT 12FT IS KIND OF THAT THRESHOLD OF BEING A PERFECT CHANNEL, AT LEAST YOU WANT YOUR OUTFALLS TO BE A FOOT ABOVE THE FLOW LINE OF THE RECEIVING STREAM, AND YOU START WORKING YOUR WAY BACK WITH THE SLOPE OF THE CHANNEL OR THE PIPE AS IT GETS TO THE OUTFALL, THE DETENTION BASIN. IT HAS A PILOT CHANNEL. THE HEIGHT OF THE, THE THICKNESS OF THE PIPE, THE DIAMETER OF THE PIPE. THE COVER ON THE PIPE. AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY BACK TO THE INLET IN THE STREET KIND OF GIVES YOU ABOUT THAT 10 TO 12 FOOT, TEN OF 11 FOOT RANGE OF OUTFALL DEPTH IN 
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THE CHANNEL TO MAKE A REALLY GOOD STORM SEWER WORK IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. SO 12 HAS KIND OF BEEN THAT NUMBER WE'VE BEEN USING. AND IF WE WERE TO GO THROUGH TAKING THE FLOWS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR MODELS THAT WE'VE JUST WRAPPED UP AND LOOKING AT WHAT THE FLOW IS AT ANY GIVEN POINT ON THESE CHANNELS, ASSUMING A VELOCITY OF THREE, FOUR, FIVE FEET PER SECOND, WHICH IS A PRETTY SAFE ASSUMPTION, YOU CAN START TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE BOTTOM WITH THE CHANNEL NEEDS TO BE. IF IT'S 12FT DEEP, TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT FLOW AND FLOW IS NOTHING MORE THAN VELOCITY TIMES CROSS-SECTIONAL AREA. SO IF YOU HAVE ASSUMED VELOCITY, YOU CAN CALCULATE AN AREA BASED ON THE Q. IF THE ONLY VARIABLE IS YOUR BOTTOM WIDTH BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE IS 12FT DEEP. FOR TO ONE SIDE SLOPES, YOU CAN GET A PRETTY GOOD EASY ASSUMPTION OF WHAT YOUR RIGHT OF WAY WOULD BE. AND SO THIS HELPS IDENTIFY KIND OF LIKE A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN FOR, FOR CHANNELS LIKE WHERE, HOW BIG THE CHANNEL NEED TO BE BASED ON THE FLOW THAT'S IN THAT AREA. AND NOW THAT WE KNOW THE FLOW WITH THE MODELS BEING COMPLETED, WE CAN REALLY START TO REFINE THIS AND GIVE SOME FEEDBACK AND GUIDANCE ON HOW BIG A CHANNEL NEEDS TO BE, OR MAKE SURE SOMETHING DOESN'T GET LANDLOCKED WITH AN UPCOMING DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT WAS ALL I HAD. THAT'S MY LAST SLIDE. AGAIN. DID YOU TALK WITH STAFF ABOUT THE RESERVOIR STUDIES THEY'RE DOING? NO, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN INTO THAT. OUR OUR EFFORTS HAVE BEEN TO ANALYZE THE FLOOD RISK WITHIN THE LOCAL DRAINAGE. MY UNDERSTANDING, THE RESERVOIRS ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRAZOS. NO. THERE WERE SOME IN THE SPRING CREEK WATERSHED. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THOSE ARE RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THOSE ARE SERVING KIND OF HELPING THE HARRIS COUNTY SIDE AS WELL. NO, WE HAVEN'T DUG INTO THAT PART YET. SECOND THING I WANT TO POINT OUT TO EVERYBODY WAS THIS LAST SLIDE WHERE YOU SHOW PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY REQUIREMENTS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO MECHANISM FOR OBTAINING RIGHT OF WAY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A PRECURSOR TO THE FORMATION OF A FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT, OR SOME SORT OF A DRAINAGE DISTRICT FOR THE COUNTY, WHEREIN WE WOULD GO THROUGH. AND THEN OFFICIALLY NAME THESE CREEKS WITH DESIGNATIONS LIKE B 112 OR WHATEVER. YES, SIR. AND THEN START ACQUIRING RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT WE COULD DO THE IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY RIGHT NOW, ANY IMPROVEMENTS AT THIS AT THIS SUGGESTS WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TO RECTIFY. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT WOULD SIMPLY BE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPERS, LANDOWNERS OR SOMETHING AS PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS. BUT YOU HAVE NO HAMMER AUTHORITY OR UNLESS YOU HAVE FULL LENGTH CONTROL, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS UPSTREAM OF SOMETHING WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EFFECT ON THAT. SO ALL THIS TO SAY THAT SOMETHING I'VE HOPED FOR A WHOLE TIME AS COMMISSIONER WAS THAT THE COUNTY WOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE A DRAINAGE DISTRICT OF SOME SORT THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO COME IN THERE AND HAVE REVENUE SOURCE AND AUTHORITY TO COME IN AND START TAKING CONTROL OF SOME OF THESE CREEKS AND IMPLEMENTING SOME SORT OF IMPROVEMENT PLANS TO HELP WITH THE FLOODING. YES, SIR. BE WILLING TO HELP. SO AGAIN, AS I SAID, OUR OUR NEXT STEPS ARE TAKE THESE PROBLEM AREAS, REVIEW THE CAUSATION, DEVELOP ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK THAT MIGHT. THE COMMISSIONERS OR RESIDENTS OR COUNTY ENGINEER MIGHT HAVE ON KNOWN PROBLEMS, POTENTIAL PROJECTS, AND START TO BUILD A LIST OF SOLUTIONS TO THESE 17 PROBLEM AREAS. AND AGAIN, START TO EITHER IDENTIFY IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE BY THE COUNTY OR IF IT IS TRULY A LARGER SCALE PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO GET IN THE STATE FLOODPLAIN AND DEVELOP ALL THE SUPPORTING INFORMATION THAT GOES WITH THAT APPLICATION. SO I'M GOING TO ASK STUPID QUESTION. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MOVING THIS WATER AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A 12 FOOT CHANNEL AND WHAT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE WATER, ARE YOU ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, AND BEING COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT BASED ON THE EAST SIDE OF OUR COUNTY, ALL OF OUR WATER FLOWS INTO HARRIS AND FORT BEND? ARE THESE IT SEEMS LIKE THESE WOULD BE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD THEN REDUCE NEGATIVE IMPACTS DOWNSTREAM. IF YES, IF THE CHANNELS WERE IMPROVED WITH NOTHING ELSE, THEN YES, IT IS AN OBVIOUS IMPACT. INCREASE IN PEAK FLOW, INCREASED CONVEYANCE, REDUCTION IN STORAGE AND IT DOES CAUSE AN IMPACT TO THE 
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DOWNSTREAM SYSTEMS, AKA HARRIS COUNTY. IF WE ADD INTO THERE SOME SORT OF A REGIONAL DETENTION FACILITY THAT ABSORBS THAT IMPACT, I MEAN, SOLVING A PROBLEM UPSTREAM ALWAYS, ALWAYS IMPACTS DOWNSTREAM. UNLESS YOU MAKE A PROVISION FOR SOME SORT OF A DETENTION SYSTEM, THAT THAT PRODUCES AN OUTFLOW EQUAL TO WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE. YEP. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. NO, AND THAT'S EXACTLY IT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, SPRING CREEK, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THE MAP NEXT MODELS THAT HARRIS COUNTY DEVELOPED AS PART OF THEIR FLOOD MAPPING THAT THEY'RE UPDATING RIGHT NOW. WE'VE LEVERAGED THE DATA THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE MODELS AND DEVELOPED A 2D RAIN ON MESH MODEL FOR WALLER COUNTY. THAT GIVES US A MUCH BIGGER UNDERSTANDING THAN JUST THE RIVER FLOODPLAINS. IT GIVES US THE OVERBANK, THE OVERLAND, THE SHEET FLOW, AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE NOW KNOW WHAT THE FLOW IS AT THE COUNTY LINE FOR EXISTING CONDITION BASED ON OUR MODELS AND THE MAP NEXT MODELS. ONCE WE KNOW THAT NUMBER, WE KNOW WE'RE LIMITED TO, AND THEN WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO OR WANT TO DO UPSTREAM OF THERE WITH EITHER CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS, CULVERT IMPROVEMENTS, RESTRICTORS IN THE CHANNELS, DETENTION AT THE OUTFALL TO BLEED IT OFF BEFORE IT GOES INTO WALLER. HARRIS COUNTY DETENTION FURTHER IN THE UPSTREAM, WHICH DO DETENTION IN THE UPSTREAM. THEN YOU DON'T NEED AS BIG OF A CHANNEL BECAUSE THE FLOW IS ALREADY REDUCED. SO THESE FLOWS CAN THE CHANNELS CAN ACTUALLY BE SMALLER IF YOU DO DETENTION UPSTREAM VERSUS DETENTION DOWNSTREAM. SO THERE'S AND THAT'S PART OF THE FUN OF THIS MODELING IS WE CAN START PUTTING THINGS PLACES, BUT YOU CAN'T PUT A DETENTION POND AT THE VERY UPSTREAM BECAUSE THERE'S NO FLOW TO FILL IT UP. IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING IF THERE'S NOTHING TO GET INTO IT. SO WE GOT TO FIND THE SPACING, THE LOCATION, LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT, LOOKING AT AVAILABLE LANDS, LOOKING AT UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES, LOOKING AT STUFF IN THE FLOODPLAIN THAT MIGHT NOT BE DEVELOPABLE PER SE, AVOIDING WETLANDS. THESE ARE ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE NOW OF AVAILABLE OPTIONS, AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVES AND POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS IS THE SPACING. LOCATION IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE SIZE. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. MOST INTERESTING IS THE IMPACT THAT GIS AND LIDAR HAVE HAD ON HOW YOU DO THESE MODELS, BECAUSE USED TO IT WAS. NOW YOU REALLY HAVE A TRUE 3D. VISION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. INSTEAD OF TREATING EACH CREEK INDEPENDENTLY AND WITHOUT REGARD TO WHAT THE ADJACENT CREEK'S DOING OR OR SO FORTH, IT'S MUCH MORE, MUCH MORE ACCURATE AND DETAILED WITH THAT. A LOT MORE WORK. YEAH. THE ONLY DOWNSIDE IS THESE ARE NOW FIVE TERABYTES WORTH OF DATA. WHEN BEFORE I USED TO BE ABLE TO DO AN ENTIRE COUNTY MODEL ON THIS AT THE NEW FACILITY THAT MUSK IS BUILDING. SO YEAH, THAT'S THE ONLY DOWNSIDE IS IT TAKES A COMPUTER 20 HOURS. OUR BESSEY CREEK MODEL IS 116, 16, 40 TO 50 HOURS, 40 HOUR RUNTIME FOR THE BESSEY CREEK DETAILED MODEL. SO IF WE WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING, WE BETTER THINK THROUGH REALLY WELL. BUT SOME OF THE OTHER MODELS WE CAN RUN IN TWO, THREE, FOUR HOURS. BUT YEAH, IT'S TERABYTES OF DATA AND HOURS OF RUNTIMES. BUT IT IS PRETTY PICTURES TO LOOK AT. 
          ANOTHER REASON WHY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T LIKE DATA CENTERS. YEAH. AND AS AGE ADVANCES, IT'S GOING TO BE WORSE. BUT YEAH, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THAT WILL CONCLUDE 42. URIEL, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION? WE NEED 61, 62 AND 63. HE LOADED HIS. 
          CORRECT 60 AND 64. 60 WILL BE WITH JOHN. I NEED A MOTION ON 61. MOTION. SECOND MOTION AND SECOND DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED. 61 CARRIES. AND THEN YOU SAID, WHAT ELSE IS GOING TO DO WITH JOHN 64? SO IT IS 12:00 STRAIGHT UP. IT IS NOON. AND WE 
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