Mar 18, 2026 Commissioners Court

[CALL TO ORDER]

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WELCOME TO THIS MEETING OF WALLER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT. TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, MARCH 18TH, 2026. BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR AGENDA AT THIS TIME, WE ASK IF YOU ARE ABLE TO PLEASE STAND AND JOIN COMMISSIONER AMSLER AND INVOCATION FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGES LED BY COMMISSIONER BECKENDORFF. PLEASE, AS YOU JOIN ME IN THE LORD'S PRAYER, OUR FATHER, WHO ART IN HEAVEN, HALLOWED BE THY NAME. THY KINGDOM COME, THY WILL BE DONE, ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD. AND FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES, AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US. AND LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION, BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL. FOR THINE IS THE KINGDOM, THE POWER AND GLORY FOREVER. AMEN. WE PRAY FOR OUR NATION'S FLAG. AND I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OUR FLAG ON HIS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. AND WITH THAT, WE'LL BEGIN WITH NUMBER ONE, APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED AND IS

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

NEXT IS LARRY PARR. GOOD MORNING LARRY PA FROM TEXAS. I JUST WANTED TO COME UP AND I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT. I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT LATER. I CAN'T STAY FOR THE WHOLE THING, SO I'LL. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO STAY FOR 48, SO I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT AND QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE IN PRECINCT THREE THIS. THE T I R Z IS GOING TO GO THIS ENTERPRISE ZONE. I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF A CLOSE LOCATION. I'D ALSO LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE FUNDS THAT'S GOING TO GO TOWARDS THIS. FROM WHAT I'M READING AND INVESTIGATING IN THE PAST, IT TAKES AWAY COUNTY FUNDS FROM THE CITIZENS AND DIVERTED TO WHAT I WOULD CALL A SPECIAL INTEREST. THIS TYPICALLY IS A IS A PRECURSOR TO A MUD COMING IN FOR A DEVELOPMENT. SO. THESE BOARDS I'VE DEALT WITH MUD BOARDS BEFORE. IN FACT, MY DAUGHTER WAS A MUD ENGINEER FOR JONES AND CARTER. SO I HAVE A REAL GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THEY WORK. THESE PEOPLE THAT SIT ON THESE BOARDS ARE TYPICALLY NOT ELECTED FROM THE PUBLIC SO MUCH AS THEY ARE APPOINTED. SO WHEN THEY DO, WHEN THEY START SPENDING MONEY, IT KIND OF GOES, THE PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE THE TRANSPARENCY. I MEAN, I'VE HAD, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE ABOUT THAT.

THEY ALSO THEY ALWAYS SAY, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD PARKS, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD RUNNING TRACKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THEY ARE A TAXING ENTITY. PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING INTO THESE MUDS ARE GETTING TAXED ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. AND SOMETIMES THE REGULATION ON THE TAX VERY HIGH MAKES A HOMEOWNERS WHO ACTUALLY BUY IN. THEY'RE VERY DIFFICULT TO STAY IN THEIR HOUSES. SOMETIMES DEALING WITH THIS WITH ALL THE SINCE I DO SIT ON THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD, I DO SEE PEOPLE COMING IN THAT ARE HAVING TO TRY AND SELL THEIR HOUSES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE TAXES. SO BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE MUDS. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I'D LIKE SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT WHEN YOU GET IT, IF YOU HAVE A LOCATION OR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PUT OUT, I THINK IT WOULD HELP THE PEOPLE. IN PRECINCT THREE, WE PROBABLY ARE THE LARGEST RURAL AREA, MAYBE TWO. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT FIELD STORE, BUT I KNOW GOING FROM PRAIRIE VIEW TO BROOKSHIRE, IT'S A LOT OF RURAL AND WE HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES ALREADY. MY BACKGROUND IN CONSTRUCTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU BUILD UP FIVE FEET, WHATEVER, YOU'RE GOING TO SHED WATER. AND SO IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR THE CITIZENS OUT THERE, THE OLD TIME CITIZENS WHO HAVE LOTS OF PROPERTIES AND STUFF TO TRAIN. SO WITH THAT, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, COMMISSIONER JONES, IF YOU COULD GIVE US SOME INFORMATION

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DANNY. GETTING THAT APPROVED FOR THE FOUNDATION, OR IF YOU HAVE A TIME FRAME ON THAT, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE ROSALIND FRANCES. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. HONORABLE COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I AM ROSALIND FRANCIS. WE STAND AS A UNIQUE INTERSECTION IN WALLACE COUNTY HISTORY. TO OUR EAST. HOUSTON IS SURGING TO OUR WEST. THE ENERGY LANDSCAPE IS TRANSFORMING. FOR DECADES, HEMPSTEAD HAS BEEN THE HUB CITY. TODAY, WE PROPOSE MAKING IT THE GLOBAL HUB FOR SUSTAINABLE INDUSTRY. OUR 4.1 MILLION FOOT CAMPUS ISN'T JUST A COLLECTION OF BUILDINGS. IT'S A PROMISE, A PROMISE TO THE FAMILIES OF WALLER COUNTY THAT THEIR CHILDREN WON'T HAVE TO LEAVE HOME TO FIND WORLD CLASS ENGINEERING, MANUFACTURING JOBS.

WE ARE CREATING 5000 OPPORTUNITIES THAT PAY OVER DOUBLE THE COUNTY AVERAGE, ENSURING OUR INDUSTRIES GROW WITHOUT STRAINING OUR POWER GRID. BY APPROVING THE CHAPTER 381 AGREEMENT IN REINVESTMENT ZONE, YOU AREN'T JUST GRANTING AN EQUIPMENT, YOU ARE FUELING A 2.5 BILLION ENGINE OF INNOVATION. YOU'RE CHOOSING A PROJECT THAT IS ENTIRELY SELF-SUFFICIENT, BUILDING ITS OWN POWER, CAPTURING ITS OWN CARBON, AND PROVIDING ITS OWN SITE CHILDCARE IN MEDICAL SERVICES TO OUR WORKERS. WE ARE READY TO START WITH POTENTIAL PARTNERS LIKE EXXONMOBIL, AMAZON AND MICROSOFT ALIGNED. OUR COMMITMENT TO HEMPSTEAD IS ABSOLUTE. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU MOVE TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR OUR REINVESTMENT ZONE DESIGNATION. FOR YOUR NEXT SESSION, LET US ALL BUILD WALLER COUNTY TOGETHER. I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STAY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO PUBLICIZE MY COMMENTS TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND I DO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MEET ON ANOTHER DAY OR I HAVE DETAILS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S EVERYONE THAT WE HAD SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING? ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THAT WILL CONCLUDE

[CONSENT AGENDA]

[PROCLAMATION]

COACH JACKSON, WHO'S HERE TODAY AS WELL WITHIN HIS FIRST SEASON AT PURVIEW, HAS LED US TO BE SWAC CHAMPIONS. AND SOME OF YOU ALL GOT A CHANCE TO SEE HOW WE GOT ROBBED IN THE CELEBRATION BOWL, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY. AND WE'RE HERE TO CELEBRATE THAT AS WELL AS TODAY. WE ALSO HAVE COACH HAMPTON, WHO'S DONE A GREAT JOB WITH OUR VOLLEYBALL

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THE PURVIEW A&M, UNIVERSITY VOLLEYBALL AND TEAM RECOGNITION. WHEREAS, THE STUDENT ATHLETES OF PURVIEW A&M UNIVERSITY PANTHER VOLLEYBALL TEAM HAVE DEMONSTRATED OUTSTANDING PERSEVERANCE, SPORTSMANSHIP AND ACADEMIC COMMITMENT, BALANCE THE DEMANDS OF COMPETITION AND CLASSROOM WHILE SERVING AS ROLE MODELS FOR THEIR PEERS AND BROADER COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, THROUGH THEIR DEDICATION TO TRAINING, THEIR RESILIENCE IN ADVERSITY, AND THEIR UNBREAKABLE SISTERHOOD, THE PANTHERS EARNED THE RIGHT TO COMPETE FOR THE POSTSEASON CHAMPIONSHIP, WHICH BROUGHT PRIDE TO THE UNIVERSITY, ALUMNI AND PANTHER NATION EVERYWHERE.

AND WHEREAS THE COACHING STAFF ASSEMBLED BY COACH HAMPTON HAS PROVIDED EXCEPTIONAL INSTRUCTION, MENTORSHIP AND STRATEGIC LEADERSHIP, CONTRIBUTING THEIR EXPERTISE AND PLAYER DEVELOPMENT, GAME PLANNING AND CHARACTER BUILDING TO ENSURE THAT THE PROGRAM EXCELS BOTH ON AND OFF THE COURT. AND WHEREAS THE SPORTING STAFF, INCLUDING COORDINATORS, SPORTS PERSONNEL, ATHLETIC TRAINERS, EQUIPMENT, ETC. HAVE PLAYED AN INDISPENSABLE ROLE IN THE TEAM'S SUCCESS, ENSURING THAT ATHLETES ARE PREPARED, HEALTHY AND SUPPORTED THROUGHOUT THE SEASON. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE WALLER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT DOES HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE PRAIRIE VIEW A&M UNIVERSITY LATER, LADY PANTHER VOLLEYBALL TEAM, COACHES AND STAFF FOR THEIR REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENTS, CHAMPIONSHIP CHARACTER AND OUTSTANDING REPRESENTATION OF PRAIRIE VIEW A&M UNIVERSITY IN WALLER COUNTY, TEXAS. BID. FURTHERMORE, RESOLVED THAT THIS PROCLAMATION BE ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD AS A LASTING TRIBUTE TO THE HISTORIC SEASON AND ENDURING CONTRIBUTION TO THE LEGACY OF PRAIRIE VIEW A&M UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS AND WITNESS, WHERE, AS WALLER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DO HEREBY SET MY HAND AND CALL CECILE WALLER COUNTY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 18TH DAY OF MARCH 2026. MISTER FREDDY ROBERTS FOR FOR WRITING THIS AND MACKENZIE FOR ASSISTING US IN THIS. I KNOW. SO LOOK, THE FOOTBALL TEAM SAYS A LITTLE BIT ALONG THE SAME LINES, THINKING COACH AND HIS STAFF FOR DOING A REMARKABLE JOB THROUGH THEIR DEDICATION OF TRAINING, THEIR RESILIENCE OF ADVERSITY, THE HIGHEST STAGES IN BLACK COLLEGE FOOTBALL, THE HBCU CELEBRATION, BOTH FEATURING THE SWAC AND THE MIAC REGULAR SEASON CHAMPIONSHIP AGAINST SOUTH CAROLINA STATE, BRINGING PRIOR TO THE UNIVERSITY ALUMNI DONATION.

JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF AS WELL, AND LET IT HEREBY BE AT THE 18TH DAY OF MARCH, 2026 WITH THE SEAL OF WALLER COUNTY. AND WE CELEBRATE YOU ALL. SO WE'D LIKE FOR COACH JACKSON TO COME UP AND WE TAKE A PHOTO WITH YOU. AND THEN. RIGHT, ACTUALLY, LADIES FIRST.

SO I SAY COACH HAMPTON AND THE VOLLEYBALL TEAM COME UP FIRST AND WE TAKE A PHOTO AND THEN COACH JACKSON. ANY DISCUSSION ON THESE PROCLAMATIONS? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED. AND I THINK THE THE GIRLS MAY MAKE SOME OF US,

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THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. HOW ABOUT ANOTHER ROUND OF APPLAUSE? YEP. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. GREAT JOB. GREAT JOB. YEAH. YEAH. I JUST, YOU KNOW SUCH AN AWESOME JOB. I MEAN, AND I THINK OUR ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS IN PUBLIC COMMENTS TOUCHED ON THIS AS WELL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A UNIVERSITY IN OUR COUNTY THAT IS OF THE HIGHEST TIER. IT IS A HIGH CLASS UNIVERSITY THAT DOES NOT JUST PROMOTE EXCELLENCE IN THE CLASSROOM, IT PROMOTES EXCELLENCE, YOU KNOW, IN ATHLETICS. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WITH THE COACHES THAT THEY'VE HIRED, THE PLAYERS THAT THEY'VE RECRUITED, THE COACHING STAFF. AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT. SO AGAIN GREAT JOB ON AN AWESOME SEASON. APPRECIATE YOU ALL VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. ALL RIGHT.

[CONSTABLE, PRECINCT 3]

[COUNTY ENGINEER]

YEAH, IT'S AN EXISTING PLAT. SO WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S BEEN POSTED AS FAR AS NOTICES. SO NOTHING REALLY. IN ADDITION TO TO ADD. YEAH JUST AN ADJUSTMENT. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING. I

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GOT A MOTION FROM 40 TO 46 WITH A SECOND. VERY GOOD. ANY. WELL LET'S GO. WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT 40 IS. ROSS, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND JUST KIND OF GO DOWN THE LINE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT OR HAVE QUESTIONS ON? OKAY, I'LL MAKE IT REAL QUICK. 41 TYPICALLY WE DON'T REQUIRE INLINE DETENTION. INLINE DETENTION IS DETENTION THAT IS ON LIKE A CREEK OR A DRAINAGE PATH. THIS ONE IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE INTERNAL GUIDELINES THAT WE FOLLOW TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO IMPACT. AND WE'VE DONE THAT. AND AND SO WE'VE CONSIDERED THAT HAD OUTSIDE HYDROLOGISTS REVIEW IT ON OUR BEHALF AS WELL. AND SO WE'VE GOT TWO ENGINEERS AND MY STAFF LOOKING AT THAT, WE BELIEVE THAT'S RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. 42 AS YOU CAN SEE IN YOUR DOCUMENTS, GENERAL PLAN OF SOUL MIRA DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, THE DRAINAGE, THE TRAFFIC, ALL OF THAT IS LOOKED AT. WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THIS IN REGARDS TO THE DRAINAGE, HOW THAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S ALL BEEN REVIEWED. OUT, OUT OUTSIDE ENGINEER.

WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. SO MIRRORS 713 LOTS, 411 ACRES. 43 IS A RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT.

BASICALLY THIS IS JUST THE COUNTY ROAD AND BRIDGE PUTTING THIS ON RECORD THAT THE HOA WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IRRIGATION LINES, LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS IF WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO THE ROADS. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S CLEAR ON THOSE EXPECTATIONS. SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S ON THE ON THE AGENDA 44 IS OUR APPRAISAL SERVICES FOR WHITNEY AND ASSOCIATES. WHITNEY AND ASSOCIATES WAS NOTED AS THE MOST QUALIFIED, HIGHLY QUALIFIED FOR THESE SERVICES IN THE RFQ FOR THE ROAD BOND. SO THOSE ARE THE APPRAISAL SERVICES. 45 IS ADDITIONAL ON CALL ENGINEERING COSTS. THESE COSTS ARE ACTUALLY PAID FOR BY

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YEAH. ONE THING I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, ON NUMBER 42, WHICH IS THE GENERAL PLAN FOR SUMMER, IS IT SUMMER? SUMMER? YES, SIR. YEP. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT IT. AND IT'S NICE BECAUSE IT'S IT'S A NICE SPREAD OF LOTS, BUT THE SMALLEST LOT, IF I'M CORRECT, IS 50 FOOT. YOU GOT 50S, 60S, 70S AND EVEN SOME 125 FOOT LOTS. THAT'S THAT'S NICE. THAT'S A VERY NICE. SO I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO. DOCUMENT AND I DETENTION BECAUSE IT USUALLY INVOLVES A TRIP TO DRAIN AND OTHER THINGS. IN THIS CASE THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT.

THE MAIN DRAINAGE WAY THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT PART OF THE ENDOCRINE SYSTEM. SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT AT THIS TIME. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION BECAUSE SOME OTHER TIME I MIGHT. YES, SIR. NOTED. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO NEED TO MAKE A MOTION. I WAS DISCUSSING THIS WITH COMMISSIONER SMITH. HE NEEDS TO ABSTAIN ON ONE OF THESE ITEMS. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO AMEND YOUR MOTION AND REMOVE 45. SO I'M BASICALLY AMENDING. SO IT'S 40 THROUGH 46 WITH 45 REMOVED. SECOND. MOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. AND NOW WE HAVE THE.

SO NOW MOTION HAS BEEN AMENDED. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. LET'S TAKE UP NUMBER 45. MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY GONE OVER THIS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OPPOSED? ONE. ABSTENTION. OKAY. AND THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF

[DIRECTOR OF POLICY & ADMINISTRATION]

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CREEK IS VERY CROWDED LONG, LONG. NO, IT'S A LONG. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO DRAIN AWAY THE WATER DRAIN. THERE'S A BUNCH OF RICE FARMS DOWN THERE. I THINK IT WILL DRAIN TO MCGREGOR. AND THEN THERE'S NO BIG WATERWAYS THERE. SO BUT I MEAN PART OF THE DRAINAGE IS THEY CAN'T PUT ANY MORE WATER INTO THE DITCH THAN IS ALREADY THERE. THAT'S WHY I'M CONCERNED ALL COMMUNITIES ARE SUBJECT TO THE FLOW RATE. SO ANYTHING THAT THEY DISCHARGE HAS TO BE DISCHARGED AT THE END. I UNDERSTAND THE ENGINEERING PART OF IT. I'M JUST WONDERING WHERE'S THE ULTIMATE DISCHARGE GOING TO GO? IT'S GOING TO GO TO BESSEY CREEK OR NOT, BECAUSE MOST OF IT GOES TO KATIE ANYWAY. SO ALL THESE PLANS, BESSEY CREEK DOESN'T GO THROUGH. KATIE.

DIFFERENT WATER. I MEAN, YEAH, BUT NO, I GOT YOU WATER WINDS UP IN KATIE LET'S PUT IT. I THINK PART OF THIS WILL END UP MAYBE IN BROOKSHIRE CREEK. OKAY. THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS 362 IS INUNDATED WITH THESE MUDS AND THESE DIVISIONS AND A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH TWO AND THREE FOOT OF WATER WHERE THERE USED TO BE NONE. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, HAVE THEY. I'M SURE THEY'VE DONE A DRAINAGE PLAN. I'M SURE THEY'VE DONE DONE THE RETENTION DETENTION. AND I'M SURE IT'S ALWAYS A DISCHARGE. WHERE DOES THE DISCHARGE GO? HAVE THEY HAVE THEY GIVEN YOU ALL A SOLUTION TO THAT? YEAH THEY HAVE. AND I KNOW THIS IS ALSO IN THE BCD'S, THE BROOKSHIRE KATY DRAINAGE DISTRICT HAS TO REVIEW THAT. AND LIKE I ALWAYS SAY, I'M NO EXPERT, SO I RELY ON THE EXPERT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE US THAT INFORMATION. ROSS, CAN YOU SHARE THAT INFORMATION? ROSS IS ABOUT TO THE PRECINCT. ROSS IS ABOUT TO DO THAT FOR YOU RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, IN THE FORM OF A HARD COPY SHOWING THE PLAN. CAN YOU DO THAT RATHER THAN JUST VERBAL? SO WE DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION. ANYTHING THAT'S APPROVED WILL HAVE AVAILABLE IN OUR OFFICE AND FOR THE PUBLIC. AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO REQUEST THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY SEND IT TO THEM AS WELL. I'M GOING TO REQUEST. OKAY. SO IF IT'S STILL IN REVIEW, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, IF THERE'S DOCUMENTS STILL IN REVIEW, THEN IT'S NOT PUBLIC RECORDS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS NOT PUBLIC RECORD YET. BUT AS SOON AS IT IS, WE CAN WE CAN RELEASE THAT UPON REQUEST. THIS IS WHERE I HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH APPROVING THIS. WITHOUT THE CITIZENS KNOWING WHERE THE DISCHARGE GOES. BELL BOTTOM CREEK. I JUST GOT A TEXT GOES TO BELL BOTTOM CREEK. OKAY, I JUST LIKE TO SEE THE ROUTE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN WALLER COUNTY, BUT I LOVE ALL THE ARGUMENTS YOU MAKE BECAUSE ON MY NEXT AGENDA ITEM, EVERY POINT YOU JUST TOUCHED ON HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT. SO I APPRECIATE IT. STICK AROUND FOR ABOUT FIVE MORE MINUTES. OH, I PLAN TO. ALL RIGHT. NO PROBLEM. THE ONE QUESTION I HAD IS SO IS THAT I SEE THERE'S 100 FOOT 180 FOOT EASEMENT OR RESERVE. IS THAT

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AND THEN ONE OF THE OTHER RULES IS THE STATE RULE. IT'S A CITY OR COUNTY RULE IS WE GOT TO DISCHARGE THE FLOW IN THE SAME LOCATION THAT IT'S CURRENTLY GOING. SO IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE DOWNSTREAM. IT GOES THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH. WE'RE WORKING WITH WITH THOSE NEIGHBORS TO PUT SOME OF THAT, THAT THERE'S A ACTUALLY A LAKE THAT GOES THAT'S A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF THERE. SO WE'LL ACTUALLY BE CREATING EASEMENTS SO THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT CAN GET IN THERE AND MAINTAIN THINGS OFF OF OUR PROPERTY FURTHER DOWNSTREAM, AGAIN, IN HOPES OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THIS IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS PURCHASED THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF US. NOW WE'RE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THEM FOR NOT ONLY DRAINAGE, BUT WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING WATER TREATMENT, PLANT AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS TO SERVICE THE SCHOOLS. SO REALLY, WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE THEM AS A NEIGHBOR OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND I GUESS WITH THAT, MR. LUCAS IS DISCUSSED KIND OF ALL THE HIGHER END AMENITIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO I WON'T GO BACK OVER THOSE, BUT BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY, JUST TOUCH ON YOUR 101ST COMMISSIONER BECKENDORF WE GOT THE ANSWER, BUT THE 180FT RIGHT OF WAY IS FOR 360. OKAY, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHAT. NOBODY HAS A CRYSTAL BALL. IS THAT ENOUGH FOR 362? WE THINK. AND YES, WE ARE. 30 YEARS. WE'VE WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THIS PRETTY SUBSTANTIALLY. WE THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH TO TO MAINTAIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION YOU HIT ON WHICH OF THE DRAINAGE OR DETENTION, EXCUSE ME, IS GOING TO BE WET VERSUS DRY IS GOING TO IF YOU LOOK AT THE AT THE MAP, COMMISSIONER, THE THE EASTERN EDGE AND THE SOUTHERN EDGE ARE GOING TO BE WET. AND THEN THE ALONG MCGREGOR IS GOING TO BE DRY. AND RIGHT ALONG MCGREGOR IS GOING TO BE DRY. YES SIR. OKAY. AND THEN ONE QUESTION I HAD YOU KNOW IT'S COME UP WITH WATER BEING AT THE TOP OF EVERYBODY'S MIND. I KNOW SOME DEVELOPMENTS ARE SOME AREN'T. AND WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO CHOOSE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

ARE IS YOUR IRRIGATION? IS IT GOING TO BE TIED INTO THE WASTEWATER OR IS IT GOING TO BE SEPARATE AT THIS POINT? WE BELIEVE IT WILL BE SEPARATE. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, IF IT MAKES SENSE, ESPECIALLY IN GROUNDWATER DISTRICTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IF IT MAKES SENSE TO RECIRCULATE, IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT BEFORE, RIGHT? TAKE SOME OF THE WASTEWATER, RUN IT BACK THROUGH A SEPARATE SYSTEM. AND IN THIS CASE, IT'S IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN. IF IT'S POSSIBLE, I'D PREFER THAT JUST BECAUSE THAT WATER JUST GOES DOWN THE CREEK AND MIGHT AS WELL USE IT TO WATER THE LANDSCAPE. BUT YOU KNOW, WE, AGAIN, WE HAVE NO, NO AUTHORITY TO REGULATE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. BUT IT'S ALWAYS NICE WHEN SOME PEOPLE CAN. BUT

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SO AND I GUESS Y'ALL HAVE DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY THERE AT 362 BECAUSE THAT IS A CURVE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A LIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, BUT ONE DAY IT'LL BE FIXED AND WE GOT TO CLEAN THAT CORNER UP. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO DOUBT, NOT ONLY FOR THE COUNTY'S SAKE, BUT FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO LIVE HERE SAKE. IT'LL BE CLEANED UP. BUT IT MAY IT MAY WARRANT SIGNALS, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THERE. CERTAINLY THE SCHOOL GOING IN THERE WILL TRIGGER THAT. SO AGAIN, THE STUDY WILL DISCUSS IT IN MORE DETAIL WHEN IT'S APPROVED. MAYBE SOME COST SHARING THAT GOES ON. IT'S IN OUR BUDGET TO DO SOME SIGNALING, FLASHING LIGHTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT IT'LL GET WORKED OUT THROUGH THE SCHOOL AS THAT MOVES FORWARD AS WELL. WELL, AND I WILL SAY THIS, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND BERKSHIRE KD TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ON THAT WATER AS WELL FOR THE SCHOOL. I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO HELP THEM IMMENSELY. THANK YOU. I THINK IT SHOULD BE POINTED OUT. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE LAYOUT FOR THIS 147 ACRE DEVELOPMENT. AND IF I ADDED THIS DETENTION CORRECTLY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 36 ACRES, GIVE OR TAKE A PETITION.

THAT'S 25% OF THE DEVELOPMENT'S GOING TO BE DETENTION. YEAH, IT'S IT'S BEEN PAINFUL AT TIMES, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GOT ALL THAT OFF SITE FLOW COMING TOWARDS YOU AND THINGS ARE FLAT, WELL, WE'RE FLAT AND WE ALSO GOT TO DEAL WITH PIPELINES. LAST QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK IS WHAT'S YOUR PRICE POINT RANGE ON YOUR HOMES? WE'RE TRYING TO HIT. YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS ON THAT. THEY ARE CERTAINLY NO LESS THAN 350,000. AND BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE MARKET AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. SO I'LL SAY AT THIS POINT, AT LEAST NORTH OF THREE 5350 TO UP TO PROBABLY HALF A MILLION, I GUESS, IN SOME OF THE BIGGER LOTS, CERTAINLY WITH THE AMENITIES THAT ARE AROUND THERE, THE AMENITIES, THE IS IT GOING TO BE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR JUNIOR HIGH? DO YOU KNOW? I, YOU KNOW, I COULD LOOK BEHIND ME AND THEY WOULD TELL ME WHAT IT IS, BUT I PERSONALLY DO NOT KNOW. OR MAYBE HIGH SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT IT.

SIR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THAT'S THE ONE THING I MUST SAY IS JUST FOR CONSISTENCY PURPOSES, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE DEVELOPMENT. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE WORKING WITH ROBERT ON THE ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE. I'M GOING TO BE A NO ON THIS ONE JUST BECAUSE I DON'T 50% LESS THAN 50 OR 5050. I'M GOING TO BE CONSISTENT. SO I'M GOING TO BE A NO. BUT I WISH YOU THE BEST. I THINK IT'S B A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS PATIENCE IN WORKING THROUGH THIS WITH US.

SO WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM FOR A VERY LONG TIME. THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE. YES SIR.

IT IS. THANK YOU. WHICH ISP ARE YOU WORKING WITH? ROYAL. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'VE BEEN ROYAL. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 47? ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED? 47 CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE TO NUMBER 48. WON'T BE ANY

[COMMISSIONER, PRECINCT 3]

SO EITHER WAY THAT THEY LEANED, I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE MADE A VERDICT OR A DECISION ON THAT COURT CASE THAT'S BEEN IN COURT FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS. SO THEN I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT PLACING IT BACK ON THE AGENDA TO ASK US TO PAY A THIRD PARTY FIRM TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND TELL US WHETHER OR NOT THE THE COURT HAS THE ABILITY TO SET UP THESE SPECIAL DISTRICTS, SUCH AS THE TURRETS. AND THROUGH ME TALKING TO YOU, ME GETTING PERMISSION TO GO OUT AND TALK TO TO THAT

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THEY OPERATE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. ALSO, TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE. WHAT I WOULD ASK IF, IF IT EVER COMES BACK THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO IT, I WILL ASK, JUST LIKE ANY FINANCIAL DECISIONS THAT HAPPEN IN WALLER COUNTY COMES BEFORE THIS COURT, I WILL ASK THAT THE COURT BE THE BOARD AND WHICH MAKES DECISIONS. AND SO HAVING A RECEIVING A MEMO FROM MISS SHANNON, THE MEMO TALKED ABOUT WHY TURRETS ARE BAD. AND SO I WANT TO IT WAS STATED THAT THAT TAX REINVESTMENT ZONES TAKE MONEY FROM THE CITIZENS AND OTHER THINGS. KNOW WHAT A TAX REINVESTMENT. SO HOW BUDGET OPERATES TODAY IS THE VALUE OF. EVERYONE COMES BACK AND CREATES OUR BUDGET. AND THEN WE COME AND WE MAKE A DECISION. WELL, SOME LAND IS RAW LAND. AND SO OUR TAXABLE VALUE ON IT TODAY IS NOT THE SAME AS IT WOULD BE IF IT WAS INCENTIVIZED TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP IN THE NEXT 5 OR 10 YEARS. SO IT CAPTURES THAT ACTUAL AREA. SO SAY WHY I SAID, HEY, TO LOOK AT IT IN PRECINCT THREE IS MY IT'S THE AREA IN WHICH I REPRESENT. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT AREAS THAT ARE ARE LOOKING TO BE DEVELOPED. AND SO LITERALLY THE CRICKET COMPLEX HAS HALF OF IT IS IN THE CITY OF PURVIEW. THE OTHER HALF IS IN THE COUNTY ALONG THE COUNTY LINE. THEY ACTUALLY JUST TEXTED ME TWO WEEKS AGO TO SAY, HEY, IS THE IS THE, IS THE COUNTY GOING TO LOOK AT CREATING SOMETHING LIKE THIS? AND SO IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS, LET ME TELL YOU HOW THE VISION OF, OF IF WE WERE ALLOWED TO DO IT. SO YOU HAVE A FRONTAGE ROAD THAT IS RIGHT, RIGHT. NEXT YOU HAVE FRONTAGE PROPERTY THAT IS ON 290. THEY ACTUALLY DID THE SAME THING UP IN DALLAS COUNTY THAT ALLOWED THEIR PROJECT TO ACTUALLY MOVE A LOT FASTER TO WHERE THEY PUT COMMERCIAL. THEY PUT A HOTEL, THEY PUT RESTAURANTS, THINGS THAT INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO COME. NOW THE VALUE IN WHICH IT'S CREATED GOES RIGHT BACK INTO THAT AREA. LET ME GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE. A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, COMMISSIONER TOM RAMSEY. A DEVELOPMENT CAME IN A WHILE BACK AND THE DEVELOPMENT IS A NICE DEVELOPMENT, DOING WELL, BUT HE NEEDED TURN LANES AND A STOPLIGHT IN THE AREA IN WHICH HE WAS GOING TO HAVE TO USE COUNTY FUNDS OUT OF HIS BUDGET TO DO IT. NOW, I'VE HEARD CITIZENS COMPLAIN ABOUT, HEY, WHY WE DON'T MAKE THE DEVELOPERS PAY FOR THESE THINGS. THE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND DO THIS AND THIS, AND WE SAID, OUR ANSWER IS, HEY, WE MAKE SURE THEY PUT IN ROAD CALLS. SO HELP US HERE. BUT ONCE THAT DEVELOPMENT IS GONE, IT'S VERY HARD TO TO COME BACK AFTER WE APPROVE A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT TO SAY, HEY, DEVELOPER, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT PROBABLY FIVE MILES AWAY THAT IS CONGESTION GOING ESPECIALLY LIKE DOWN IN YOUR AREA BY CENTER OR CLAY ROAD. WE, THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW CAN'T AFFORD TO PUT A STOPLIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT TO USE BOND RESOURCES. OR IF YOU CREATED A TURRETS AND YOU CREATE THIS TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE, THEN WHAT YOU COULD DO IS PUT SENTARA OR AND COMMISSIONER RAMSEY CASE, HE PUT THIS DEVELOPMENT INSIDE OF THIS TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE THAT DREW A LINE CONNECTING A COUPLE OF ROADS FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO PUT TURN LANES AND STOPLIGHTS. NOW, DID THE COUNTY OR THE CITIZENS WHO NEVER DRIVE THAT ROAD PAY FOR IT? DID IT COME OUT OF A COUNTY BUDGET? NO. IT CAME OUT OF TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE IN WHICH THAT COMMUNITY, THE VALUE IN WHICH THAT COMMUNITY CREATED WAS CAPTURED TO ACTUALLY BE INVESTED RIGHT BACK INTO THAT AREA. SO IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY ANYTHING THAT THE COUNTY IS ALREADY DOING. WHAT IT'S SAYING IS ANY ADDITIONAL VALUE THAT IS CREATED BY A SPECIFIC AREA IS THEN CAPTURED TO GO RIGHT BACK INTO THAT AREA, WHICH HELPS OUT WITH DRAINAGE ISSUES AND PROBLEMS THAT YOU SEE OR THAT YOU WANT TO FIX THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW TO BE ABLE TO DO. IT HELPS YOU WITH WITH ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

OR FOR INSTANCE, WE RIGHT NOW HAVE PARKLAND AND SENTARA THAT WE WOULD NEVER FOR RIGHT NOW FOR, FOR SEEABLE FUTURE, DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT A BUILDING RIGHT THERE.

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SHANNON, DID YOU STILL WANT TO MAKE YOUR COMMENT? YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. BECAUSE YES, I DO THINK IT'S CONFUSING. I HAVE RESEARCHED IT QUITE A BIT. THE THE ISSUE IS, AND WHEN WE HAVE THIS WORKSHOP, I DEFINITELY WANT TO BE PART OF IT IS KIND OF HOW YOU SET IT UP. CAN. THE THING IS IT CAN BE CHANGED. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR YOU TO BE THE BOARD AND NOT SOMEBODY THAT'S APPOINTED. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THE COMMISSIONERS CAN MAKE THE DECISIONS ON, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WHICH ROADS NEED TO BE FIXED AND IT LOCKS IT INTO THAT AREA, WHICH I FEEL LIKE YOU CAN MAKE THE DECISION TO PUT THE TURN LANE YOURSELF AND JUST BE BRAVE AND SAY, YEAH, WE NEED IT. SORRY, EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTY, BUT THIS REALLY RESTRICTS IT. SAY PRECINCT THREE GROWS A LOT BECAUSE IT HAS ROOM TO GROW A LOT, THEN IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE SPENT IN PRECINCT THREE. NORMALLY THAT MONEY AS VALUES INCREASE WOULD HAVE JUST BEEN PUT IN THE POOL, BUT IT WILL BE RESTRICTED TO THREE. AND THAT'S THAT'S JUST AN ISSUE. AND I THINK IT CAN BE HANDLED BY COMMISSIONERS COURT. SO IT'S STILL YOU TALK ABOUT CAPTURING THE MONEY YOU'RE CAPTURING, YOU KNOW, TAXPAYER MONEY, MONEY.

AND THAT NEEDS TO BE DISPERSED. HOW YOU DETERMINE THE BUDGET IS DISPERSED AND NOT GET IT CAN GET LOCKED IN THERE. IT COULD GROW EXPONENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE A TON OF MONEY. AND THEN IT'S LOCKED IN THERE. AND THAT CAN BE ECONOMICALLY UNFAIR FOR THE COUNTY THAT IT'LL BE NICER THAN THE REST. SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS I SENT EACH OF YOU. HOPEFULLY YOU ALL GOT THIS ARTICLE THAT KIND OF SUMMARIZED FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS. AND I THINK YOU KIND OF MENTIONED SEVERAL OF THOSE. I DO THINK THAT YOU CAN DO SOME RESEARCH ON SPECIFICALLY, HARRIS COUNTY HAD SOME TOURS THAT WENT HORRIBLY WRONG. YOU CAN JUST GOOGLE IT. AGAIN, THEY HAD APPOINTED BOARDS THAT SPIN IT INCORRECTLY. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO. USUALLY THIS IS DONE FOR SLUMS TO HELP TO MAKE THEM A NICER AREA. AND THEN IT CAN KIND OF ACTUALLY END UP HELPING THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE MONEY AND HURTING THE ONES THEY CAN'T AFFORD. WHEN THE VALUES GO UP, THEN THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE THERE AND THEY CAN HARDLY AFFORD TO MOVE. SO IT CAN BE DETRIMENTAL IN THAT WAY TOO. ONE THING IS, I'M ACTUALLY FIGHTING AT AUSTIN TO ELIMINATE PROPERTY TAX, RIGHT? SO THIS KIND OF AFFECTS TOURS IN A WAY. IN THE FUTURE. SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ONE BILL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH THROUGH IS THAT, YOU KNOW, APPRAISALS, YOU KNOW, IT'S UNREALIZED GAIN. I MEAN, THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE US REALIZE GAIN THAT WE HAVEN'T MADE. SO THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT FREEZING APPRAISAL AMOUNTS, WHICH WOULD MAKE A TOURS NOT WORK, ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT MAY TAKE YEARS WHERE WE CAN GET THIS THROUGH IN AUSTIN, BUT THAT IS A POTENTIAL ISSUE FOR TOURS IN THE FUTURE. AND ONE CONCERN FOR ME, AND I GUESS THIS COULD BE HOW YOU STRUCTURE IT, IS THAT THEY CAN GO INTO DEBT, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, WE'RE MAKING 100,000 A YEAR RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S

[00:55:02]

THEY'RE DOING IT. IT JUST HAPPENS. OH, NO. SO JUST I THINK THAT IT SHOULD STAY IN THE COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR YOU TO MAKE THE WISE DECISIONS AND NOT DELEGATE IT TO SOMEWHERE WHERE THERE'S EVEN LESS TRANSPARENCY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. YOU KNOW, I LOVE ONE'S PERSPECTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN ITEMS OR AREA, BUT YOU KNOW, LAST COURT I CHOSE TO BE QUIET ABOUT A ROAD THAT WAS HAPPENING IN PRECINCT TWO. NOW, THE TRAFFIC THAT HAPPENS IN PRECINCT TWO, GOING FROM NORTH TO SOUTH IMPACTS PRECINCT THREE. BUT I AM NOT ELECTED BY PRECINCT TWO. SO I YIELD MY COMMENTS AND CONCERNS TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER THAT HAS A SAY OR IS REPRESENTED IN THAT AREA. SO FOR PRECINCT THREE, WE'RE NOT SAYING, HEY, MAKE PRECINCT THREE. THE ENTIRE PRECINCT A TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE. WE SAID, HEY, I HAVE AN IDEA. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS GOING IN THE AREA OF MY PRECINCT. I CAN'T FORCE MY OTHER COLLEAGUES TO SAY, HEY, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT IT YOURSELF. SO THE PRECINCT THAT HAS ELECTED ME, I SAID, HEY, THIS IS A TOOL I'M LISTENING TO. MY CONSTITUENTS COMPLAIN ABOUT THEIR ROADS, THAT HEY HAS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT IS PUT ONTO IT BY PEOPLE THAT DRIVE IN DIFFERENT. ME AND HIM COMPLAIN ABOUT TRAFFIC WITH EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IF WE HAD A TOURIST THAT HAD A LINE, IT WOULD BENEFIT NECESSARILY OUR. IF WE HAD ACCESS TO A REVENUE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PULL MONEY FROM, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HELP IDENTIFY SPECIFIC PROJECTS. I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THAT WILL HELP US AND TO SIDETRACK PROPERTY TAXES WAS BROUGHT UP, AND I'M PRETTY SURE ALL OF US. IT'S FUNNY, I COULD SAY US NOW. ALL RIGHT. BUT ALL OF US COMPLAIN ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES FROM A STANDPOINT OF WE DON'T. SOME FEEL LIKE, HEY, WE MAY BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF FOR ALL THESE OTHER KIND OF DIFFERENT THINGS. OUR BUDGET AND HOW WE OPERATE TODAY IS OFF OF PROPERTY TAX. AND SO WE'RE ALREADY STRUGGLING FROM A STANDPOINT OF CHOOSING DO WE HIRE A LIBRARIAN? DO WE HIRE A SHERIFF? DO WE HIRE ADDITIONAL ENGINEERS BY US HAVING OUR CAP RATE IMPACTED? SO IMAGINE IF WE SAID, HEY, WE'RE JUST REMOVE PROPERTY TAXES. WELL, WHERE'S OUR MONEY GOING TO COME FROM AND WHERE IS OUR BUDGET? OR HOW ARE WE GOING TO OPERATE AT THE END OF THE DAY, BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO OUR CITIZENS? THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE JUST HEARD COMPLAINTS ABOUT DRAINAGE. WE JUST HEARD COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRAFFIC. WE JUST HEARD COMPLAINTS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT. ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE CONNECTED, OR YOU EITHER HAVE TO HAVE OVERSIGHT OR PEOPLE HIRED TO DO THOSE THINGS. SO ONCE WE START REMOVING THINGS, THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO INFLUENCE OR IMPACT OUR CONSTITUENTS, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED. AND I ALWAYS MENTIONED THIS, AND I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD KEEP THIS IN MIND. I MEAN, RHETORICAL QUESTION, HOW MANY OF YOU ALL SHOP AT KATY MILLS MALL OR HAVE BEEN DOWN TO KATY MILLS MALL, OR BEEN AROUND THE HOTEL, YOU KNOW, KATY MILLS MALLS ATTACKS, REINVESTMENT ZONE. SO JUST WANT TO LEAVE THAT OUT THERE. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES, SIR. YOU MIGHT WANT TO SIT CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE. ALL RIGHT. IT COMES AND GOES. I USED TO GET LOUD. NOW I'M CALM. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, I THINK THE BEST IDEA YOU SAID TODAY, COMMISSIONER JONES, IS THAT IF YOU HAVE THIS WORKSHOP AND PEOPLE IN PRECINCT THREE THAT THIS AREA IS GOING TO AFFECT CAN COME SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE. I KNOW WHO OWNS KATY MILLS MALL AND SIMON, I WORK WITH SIMON. I UNDERSTAND THE INVESTMENT ZONES. I UNDERSTAND THE BENEFITS ALSO. I CAN ALSO SEE SOME FAILED THINGS. I DON'T NECESSARILY SAY THEY'RE BAD. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THEY CAN BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. AND AS COUNTY CITIZENS WHO PAY TAXES HERE, I JUST THINK IT'S GOOD THAT WE UNDERSTAND SINCE THE COUNTY IS GETTING SMALLER BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU USED TO

[01:00:01]

I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, I WOULD HATE TO THINK THAT WE WANT A SYSTEM THAT KEEPS ECONOMICALLY DEPRESSED AREAS ECONOMICALLY DEPRESSED. THAT'S ME. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING TOO. ONE OF THE SURPRISES FOR ME AS A COMMISSIONER WAS THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS I GET, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO SHOP IN WALLER COUNTY. WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO EAT. WE DON'T HAVE DECENT, WE DON'T HAVE DECENT RESTAURANTS. WE DON'T HAVE DECENT SERVICES. WE DON'T HAVE.

YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE DECENT HEALTH CARE, ALTHOUGH WE'VE TRIED. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS ON THAT. I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER JONES IS TRYING TO DO IS LOOKING INTO DOING. I THINK HE'S STILL OBJECTIVE ABOUT IT. AND AND WE'LL LISTEN TO WHAT THE PEOPLE HAD TO SAY.

BUT I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER JONES IS TRYING TO DO IS OVERCOME THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHAT PEOPLE BUILD ON THEIR PROPERTY. WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER FORCING

[01:05:06]

SO HE'S TRYING TO FIND A MECHANISM WHEREBY HE CAN ENTICE THE VERY THINGS THAT WE GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT, TO COME IN AND DEVELOP AN AREA THAT PROBABLY WON'T HAVE THAT FACILITY FOR DECADES, POSSIBLY. SO I THINK RATHER THAN CATEGORICALLY CONDEMNING THE PROCESS AS SOME PEOPLE MIGHT DO, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO COME IN AND INVESTIGATE WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO AND THEN MAKE A DECISION FROM THAT. I DO APPLAUD HIS APPROACH ABOUT THE COURT MAINTAINING CONTROL OVER HOW THAT MONEY IS SPENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE INCENTIVIZE SOMEBODY TO DO SOMETHING THAT MOST OF OUR CITIZENS COMPLAIN ABOUT FROM TIME TO TIME ABOUT NOT HAVING. SO I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. I'M THE GUY THAT DOESN'T PARTICULARLY WANT TO COLLECT EXTRA TAXES OR ANY OF THOSE OTHER THINGS, AND NOT SAYING THAT IT WOULD BE ONE. I'M JUST SAYING THAT I THINK IT BEARS IN INVESTIGATION WITHOUT PREJUDICE AT THE BEGINNING AS TO WHAT IT WOULD ENTAIL, AND THEN COME IN AND MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THAT. SO I'M NOT ENDORSING OR OR CONDEMNING THE ACTION. I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO IT THOUGH.

SO THAT'S MY THAT'S MY FEELING ON IT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I WILL ADD THIS, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING OF COMPLAINTS, I'VE HAD OVER THE, THE 12 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN COUNTY JUDGE, I'VE, I'VE HAD PLENTY OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT TAXES, PLENTY OF PLATES, COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE PROPERTY VALUES. BUT DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY COMPLAINTS I'VE GOTTEN FROM PEOPLE THAT SOLD THEIR PROPERTY AND WERE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY GOT FOR THEIR PROPERTY? ZERO. I'VE NEVER HEARD FROM ONE PERSON WHO SOLD THEIR LAND AND WAS NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY ENDED UP GETTING FOR. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, NOBODY LIKES THEIR PROPERTY, THEIR TAXES GOING UP, THEIR PROPERTY VALUE. WE, WE AS A COURT HAVE TRIED, WE, WE DID WHAT 2 OR 3 BACK TO BACK, NO NEW REVENUE BUDGETS. SO JUST SURVIVING ON THE NEW REVENUE FROM NEW VALUE TO, TO ADD SERVICES. WELL, WE'VE TRIED THE CARDS TWICE. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T DON'T WANT TO APPROVE IT. I MEAN, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT WHAT, WHAT SERVICES ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU AND WHICH ONES AREN'T. YOU'RE GOING TO START TO IF, IF THIS IF WE SEE WHAT I THINK IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN IN THIS NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AND IT'S NOT JUST HERE, IT'LL BE ALL OVER THE STATE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE LIKE YOU'VE NEVER SEEN ROADS. YOU THINK ROADS ARE BAD NOW IT'LL GET WORSE. LAST UP CAME OUT OF TECH STOCK. THEY'RE GOING TO REDUCE FUNDING NEXT YEAR BY $4 BILLION IN THE STATE OF TEXAS ON ROADS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO START NEXT YEAR GOT PUSHED BACK 2 OR 3 ROADS, ROADS THAT JUST. YEAH, WE ARE BEING TOLD NOW WE'RE TALKING STATE ROADS, FM ROADS THAT WERE SLATED TO BE EXPANDED OR, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE NOW BEING PUSHED BACK, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM UP TO TEN YEARS. AND IT'S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AND I GET IT, WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH OUR COUNTY ROADS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, ALMOST EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM HITS A TECH ROAD ONCE OR TWICE, GETTING ANYWHERE FROM THEIR HOUSE TO, TO WORK. AND SO WE CAN FIX, WE, WE COULD FIX ALL OF OUR COUNTY ROADS, BUT IF THE ROADS ARE STILL STILL LACKING, YOU KNOW, BUT WE HAVE A BUT ON THE STATE LEVEL, WE HAVE A RAINY DAY FUND THAT'S BREAKING.

SURE. I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING. WE GOT PLENTY IN THE RAINY DAY FUND. YEAH, BUT BUT YET YOU GOT YOU I MEAN PROJECTS, CURRENT PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW BEING PUT ON HOLD IN THE HOUSTON REGION. AND I, I'VE, I'VE MET WITH EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF BAY TRAN RECENTLY AND YOU KNOW, IT, WHAT'S MIND BLOWING IS THE HOUSTON REGION IS AN IS THE ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THE STATE. WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE FREIGHT AND THE PORTS AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES THROUGH THIS REGION. AND WE ARE NOT. BUT BUT YET WE HAVE TO FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL TO GET FUNDING FOR STATE PROJECTS IN THIS AREA TO, TO DEAL WITH THOSE, THE ISSUES THAT COMES ALONG WITH THAT. AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN INVESTMENT. AND MEANWHILE, WE HAVE THIS MONEY SITTING IN THE RAINY DAY THAT WE'RE NOT INVESTING, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WHETHER

[01:10:01]

[PROCUREMENT DIRECTOR]

MOTION SECOND I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING JUDGE COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD. THIS IS A LAW ENFORCEMENT DATABASE THAT TRACKS MONITORS, REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS WITHIN WALLER COUNTY. OKAY. AWESOME. IS THIS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR SHERIFF'S PEACE CONSTABLES? ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT. I BELIEVE IT'S ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT. I KNOW THIS COMES THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THOUGH, SO I THINK IT'LL BE ACCESSIBLE. SHOULD BE. SEX OFFENDER LOCATIONS. IS THERE SOME IS THIS ON TOP OF THAT? THIS IS PROBABLY THE DATABASE THAT'S UTILIZED BY THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SO THAT THEY CAN TRACK THEM WITH ADDRESSES AND SO FORTH.

THIS ISN'T FOR PUBLIC. OKAY? IT'S A IT'S A LAW ENFORCEMENT. YES. OKAY. VERY GOOD. WELL, WE WANT THEM TO HAVE ALL THE TOOLS. SURE. SO WILL THE PUBLIC BE HAVE ACCESS TO THIS? I'LL HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. IS ANYONE'S HERE TODAY FOR THAT. I'LL GET I'LL GET CURIOUS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? 49 IS THERE AN ANNUAL RENEWAL ON THIS? I'M ASSUMING. YES. I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN UTILIZING THIS. SO THIS IS JUST AN ANNUAL. WE JUST WORKED IT OUT. OH, THIS IS THE ANNUAL RENEWAL. OKAY. IT'S 4500 EACH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

[GRANT MANAGER]

IT SAYS, DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE SUBMITTAL. IT'S ACTUALLY SUBMITTAL SHOULD BE RATIFICATION. OH. SO THIS IS TO AUTHORIZE THE RATIFICATION OF FISCAL YEAR 26 STATE HOMELAND SECURITY PROGRAM. REGULAR PROJECTS GRANT APPLICATION TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICE AND THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE ITEM. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. SO ON MONDAY, I SUBMITTED A GRANT APPLICATION THAT WAS VETTED BY THE GRANT COMMITTEE AND APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD AND SUBMIT TO THE STATE A REQUEST FOR GRANT FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $70,000, 359, $70,359.09. THIS WAS A REQUEST FROM THE OFFICE OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. THEY WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE ENHANCED INCIDENT RESPONSE LIGHTING SO THAT THEY'RE MORE ADEQUATELY ABLE TO RESPOND TO DISASTER INCIDENTS, TERROR INCIDENTS, ETC. SO BASICALLY, WHEN WE GO OUT TO A SITE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S TAKING PLACE AT NIGHT, ILLUMINATION TO ILLUMINATE THE SITE, HELP WITH WHATEVER THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE IS. EXACTLY. YES. MY UNDERSTANDING FROM DEAN AND BRIAN IS THAT CURRENTLY THEY JUST HAVE LIGHTS THAT THEY'VE PURCHASED AT HOME DEPOT OR LOWE'S. AND SO THESE ARE LIKE INDUSTRIAL GRADE LIGHTING. VERY GOOD. PROBABLY A GOOD, GOOD, GOOD ITEM FOR OUR GRANT. AND THERE IS NO NO LOCAL MATCH. OH EVEN BETTER. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED? THANK YOU,

[AUDITOR]

[DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES]

THERE WAS A THIRD ITEM ON 52 THAT WAS LEFT OUT. IT IS $174,865.15. LINE ITEM 60460458100. AND THIS SAME SAME NUMBER SAME NUMBER AS THE ONE ABOVE IT. SO 30000 THAT IS DESIGN FEES AND THIRD FLOOR RETAINAGE. NO, IT'S DESIGN FEES, THEN THIRD FLOOR CONSTRUCTION

[01:15:02]

THE BREAKDOWN WAS OKAY, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS FOR DANNY ON THIS.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. WHERE DANNY, AS FAR AS THE RETAINAGE OR I GUESS HOW MUCH. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE THIRD FLOOR IS STILL UNDERWAY, BUT WHERE WHERE DO WE STAND IN TERMS OF LIKE, THE COURTHOUSE PROJECT IS OVERALL, I THINK WE'RE SOMEWHERE IN THE 70 TO 80% OF SUBS HAVE BEEN GIVEN RETAINAGE. WE'RE AT 99.5% FINISHED, RIGHT? WE'RE WRAPPING UP THE MAIN BUILDING. WE'RE NOT GIVING ANY RETURNS TO THE THIRD FLOOR. WE'RE HOLDING ALL. IN FACT, IF YOU WERE A SUB ON THE MAIN BUILDING AND YOU'RE A SUB ON THE THIRD FLOOR, YOU'RE RETAINING, ALL ARE STILL GETTING HELD. YES. OKAY. MOST OF THOSE. AND THEN THE 80,000 OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. WHAT? THAT'S THE ARCHITECTURAL FEES FOR THE VARIOUS THIRD FLOOR AND THINGS. RIGHT. IT'S CONTINUING PART OF THE DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT. OKAY. AND ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN. YEAH, WE, WE HAVE A MEETING WITH THE AUDITORS ABOUT THIS EVERY MONTH AND GO THROUGH IT BEFOREHAND. DANNY, I WAS REALLY GLAD TO SEE THAT CONCRETE REPORT AT THE ENTRANCE.

THEY'RE COMING INTO THE BUILDING. YEAH, YEAH. WE FIXED THAT LITTLE CHIP IN THE FRONT AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT. THE FURNITURE IS STARTING TO GO IN IN THE BACK. WE GOT SOME CONCRETE TABLES COMING IN. WE'VE WE'RE CONCRETING THEM DOWN, GLUING THEM DOWN. WE FINALLY GOT THE LAST ONES IN OVER AT THE OTHER PARKING LOT I THINK. WELL THOSE MIGHT BE STILL MISSING. WE'RE MISSING A FEW LIGHT POLES. EVERYTHING ELSE FOR THE MAIN BUILDING. AND THE FIRST PARKING LOT IS DONE. WE HOPE TO HAVE THE PROGRAMING OF THE UP LIGHTS. WE FINALLY HAVE ALL THE UP LIGHTS IN PLACE AND WE'RE REPOSITIONING ALL THOSE. HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK, HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK WE'LL HAVE UP LIGHTING OF THE BUILDING COMPLETED. IT'S WORKING. IT'S JUST WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE LIGHTS, SO WE'RE WAITING TO GET THEM ALL TO HAVE THE PROGRAMING DONE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 8 TO 10 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS FOR 4TH OF JULY, CHRISTMAS, WHATNOT, DIFFERENT COLORS OF THE BUILDING. MOST OF THE TIME IT'LL JUST BE A WHITE LIGHT.

YOU KNOW, FOOTBALL WILL BE HERE BEFORE, YOU KNOW, MAROON LIGHTING, SIR. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO BE A PARKING RIGHT FOR YOU OR JUST JUST A MARINA. OH, YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. THIRD FLOOR CONTINUES TO COME ALONG AND REALLY GOOD SHAPE. THEY'RE BASICALLY AHEAD. IF NOT, THEY'RE ON SCHEDULE IF NOT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. SO EVERYTHING'S MOVING THERE.

EVERYTHING'S GETTING APPROVED. I'LL BE BRINGING YOU FURNITURE TWO WEEKS FROM NOW TO DO A FINAL OF THE APPROVAL, THE FURNITURE AND THE PEWS. SO WE'LL GET THOSE ORDERED. AND WHEN IS ANTICIPATED OCCUPANCY? I THINK WE'LL BE DONE. END OF JUNE, 1ST OF JULY. AND THEN FURNITURE. IF WE CAN GET IT IN AT THAT TIME, THEN WE'LL GET FURNITURE DONE AND HOPEFULLY MOVE SOMETIME MID TO LATE JULY. THAT'D BE AWESOME. TO GET LANDSCAPING. YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT IT. THINGS ARE GOING WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU DAN. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 52. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE DO WE HAVE WE HAD A MOTION OR. YEAH. HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED? 52 CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. MOVING TO

[MISCELLANEOUS]

[01:20:05]

AND WHAT HAPPENS TO HER STAFF IF SHE'S NOT HERE? HER STAFF IS STILL SERVING. I MEAN, THEY'RE COUNTY EMPLOYEES. SO, I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT WORK DIRECTED? THERE IS NO DIRECT SUPERVISOR FOR THEM RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, TECHNICALLY, CAROL CHENEY IS STILL THEIR SUPERVISOR BECAUSE SHE REMAINS JUDGE UNTIL THERE IS A REPLACEMENT. AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S A WAY OUR NEW ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HANDLE SOME OF HER DAY TO DAY THINGS. AND I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO OUR ASSOCIATE JUDGE, ASSOCIATE JUDGE, EXCUSE ME. MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOME THINGS BECAUSE, I MEAN, THE RUNOFF IS HERE.

WASN'T 60 DAYS LESS THAN 60 DAYS, ABOUT 60 DAYS. YEAH. I WOULD HESITATE TO GET AND I THINK I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE DID WITH THE JP, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KIND OF STAYED OUT OF THE RACE BY GETTING OH, 100%. WELL, AND WE DID THIS WHEN JUDGE CHENEY FIRST CAME IN, THAT'S WHEN JUNE JACKSON HAD PASSED. AND SO AFTER THE RUNOFF, WE APPOINTED JUDGE CHENEY. BUT I THINK BRINGING IN SOMEBODY FOR 60 DAYS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM 30 DAYS JUST TO CATCH UP AND AND DO ANYTHING. SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE OKAY FOR 60 DAYS. BUT HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT? I MEAN, THE ASSOCIATE JUDGE CAN FILL IN FOR MOST OF THE DUTIES AS LONG AS THERE'S NOT AN OBJECTION FROM THE PARTIES THE ASSOCIATE JUDGE CAN HANDLE MOST EVERYTHING FOR CIVIL.

CONSIDERING THAT CAROL CHENEY DIDN'T HAVE A CRIMINAL DOCKET, IT'S REALLY NOT AN ISSUE. IF THE PARTIES DON'T OBJECT. THE ASSOCIATE JUDGE CAN EVEN HAVE A TRIAL IN IN THE COURT. THAT BEING SAID, IF WE'VE ALSO GOT A VISITING JUDGE WHO'S BEEN WHO GETS APPOINTED BY JUDGE TRAPP, THEN YOU KNOW, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY ANY REAL PROBLEMS. AND WE CAN LIMP ALONG UNTIL AFTER THE RUNOFF. MY REAL CONCERN IS FOR FAMILIES, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A GOOD PART OF WHAT SHE DID WAS FAMILY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A 60 DAY DELAY FOR SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY IN A HEIGHTENED STATE OF. YOU KNOW, THE SITUATION WITH THEIR CHILDREN AND DIVORCES AND ALL OF THAT, THAT'D BE MY ONLY CONCERN. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE CIVIL SIDE IN TERMS OF CLAIMS CAN WAIT. BUT THE FAMILY PART HAS I MEAN, YOU GOT KIDS THAT ARE WAITING TO BE PUT IN.

FAMILY LAW IS ULTIMATELY CIVIL. YEAH, I KNOW I'M TALKING ABOUT THE LAWSUITS KIND OF STUFF, RIGHT? BUT THE FAMILY LAW CASES CAN STILL BE HANDLED BY THE ASSOCIATE JUDGE OR BY THE VISITING JUDGE. WELL, WHAT I'LL CAUTION YOU REGARDING VISITING JUDGES IS VISITING JUDGES ARE PAID BY THE DAY. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE IF THEY DON'T HAVE COURT THAT DAY, THEY DON'T GET PAID USUALLY. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THEY'LL COME IN, THEY'LL REVIEW WHATEVER THEY HAVE FOR THAT DAY. AND, YOU KNOW, THEN THEY'LL GO, BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING WORK OUTSIDE

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AND COMMISSIONERS COURT CAN AT THAT POINT, APPOINT THE REPLACEMENT TO SERVE OUT THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR UNTIL THE ELECTIONS DECISION WOULD HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE IN JANUARY. ONE QUESTION I HAVE SO THIS IS HER OFFICIAL RESIGNATION, AND I WISH HER THE BEST. UNTIL WE APPOINT SOMEBODY, ARE WE STILL PAYING HER? THAT MIGHT BE A. TECHNICALLY, I THINK SHE IS ENTITLED TO IT UNTIL THERE'S A REPLACEMENT. BECAUSE OF THE HOLDOVER STATUS, THEY RAN INTO A SIMILAR SITUATION IN AUSTIN COUNTY WHEN TRAVIS KANE, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY THERE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE HE RESIGNED, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY CONTINUED HAVING TO PAY THE STATE WAS STILL HAVING TO PAY TRAVIS KANE UNTIL UNTIL THE GOVERNOR APPOINTED HIS REPLACEMENT BECAUSE HE STILL REMAINED DA UNTIL THERE WAS AN ACTUAL REPLACEMENT SWORN IN THE STATE PAYS. WHAT'S THE BREAKDOWN? THAT SALARY. HOW MUCH DOES THE COUNTY PAY VERSUS THE STATE? WELL, THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW PAY A GOOD BIT OF IT. YEAH. THAT'S MOSTLY ON THE ON THE ACCOUNT. AND I MEAN, THAT'S THE HIGHEST SALARY. OH SURE. SO I MEAN THAT CHANGES THINGS A LITTLE BIT. PUT IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING TO PAY SOMEONE WHO IS EFFECTIVELY RETIRED AND NOT NO LONGER HOLDING FOR. I JUST WONDER, MAYBE WE OUGHT TO APPOINT SOMEBODY THEN SOMEBODY APPOINT, YOU KNOW, LIKE JUDGE TRAPPED. AND THEN WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR SERVICE IS NOT. YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH THAT AS LONG AS WE DON'T GET MIXED UP IN THE ELECTION. WELL, THAT GIVES ME SOME GUIDANCE BECAUSE THAT WAS THE QUESTION. AGAIN, WE DON'T NEED ANY PROBLEMS SURROUNDING THE ELECTION. NO, NO, BUT I'VE GOT SOMEBODY THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED. I'LL ASK FIRST. BUT I MEAN, I MEAN, I HATE TO SEND A CHECK TO SOMEBODY WHO'S IN.

I'LL ALSO TALK TO JUDGE CHENEY AND. SEE THE STAFF BECAUSE THEY'RE YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, SHE ORDERS THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN A FAMILY SETTING THAT JUST WE NEED SOMEBODY THERE. AND IF NOT, THE STAFF IS GOING TO SIT THERE AND JUDGE WAS THERE. JUDGE HUFFMAN, BY THE WAY, IF ANYBODY HASN'T MET, MAYBE WE OUGHT TO ASK JUDGE HUFFMAN BEFORE WE JUST ASSUME THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT ALL THIS ON HIM, BUT. OKAY, JUST YEAH. JUST REGISTRATIONS. YEAH.

SO I'M TRYING TO FIND AN OFFICE. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. SEAN. OKAY. DID WE VOTE YES OR NO? WE DIDN'T VOTE. OKAY. SO ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED? THREE. ALL RIGHT. 54 DOESN'T TAKE ACTION REGARDING WAIVER OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR ANY ASSISTANT.

GOOD MORNING. JUDGE. THIS IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WAIVER FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THE TREASURER'S OFFICE HAS NOTIFIED A NUMBER OF ATTORNEYS THAT WE WERE OVERPAID IN 2025, AND IS SEEKING RECOUPMENT OF THOSE FUNDS. THAT CREATES A CONFLICT FROM US.

IT'S THIS WAIVER. HASN'T HAPPENED TO OVERPAY. YES. THE OVERPAYMENT HAD TO DO WITH SB 22 FUNDS, WHICH IS A SUPPLEMENT TO THEIR HOURLY RATE, AS WELL AS THE FIRST PAYROLL OF 2025 IS A SPLIT BETWEEN THE HOURS FOR 2024 AND 2025, SO THE HOURS WERE ADJUSTED TO PAY FOR 2024 AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED DOWN FOR THE 2025 RATE. AND IT WAS NOT OKAY. SO IT'S JUST OVER ONE SMALL PAY PERIOD. IT WASN'T LIKE EVERY PAY PERIOD YET. OKAY, ONE PAY PERIOD. OKAY. YES. SO AND THE, THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE AFFECTED, THEY'VE ALL BEEN NOTIFIED. CORRECT. THEY HAVE BEEN SO. AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO NOW IS YOU GOT TO TRY TO COLLECT THE OVERPAYMENT. SO YEAH. AND THE ATTORNEY'S NOT ALL THE ATTORNEYS AGREE. YOU KNOW. SO THIS IS WHY THERE

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UNDERPAID QUITE A BIT, BUT NEVER OVERPAID. NO, ACTUALLY, I WOULD ACTUALLY BE PROHIBITED UNDER THE ETHICAL RULES FROM PROVIDING LEGAL ASSISTANCE TO THE COUNTY AS WELL. BECAUSE IF ONE LAWYER IS DISQUALIFIED FROM A FIRM, THE ENTIRE FIRM IS DISQUALIFIED. SO THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. THE ULTIMATELY, IT'S NOT JUST ON THIS ISSUE. IT CAN ACTUALLY EXTEND TO ALL LEGAL ADVICE THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE COUNTY, WHICH IS WHY THE WAIVER IS NEEDED. IT WOULDN'T AFFECT CRIMINAL CASES, BUT IT AFFECTS ANY CIVIL ISSUES. SO THANK YOU. ALL GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 54? WELL I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY, IS THIS THE MOTION TO SAY THAT WE OKAY WITH WHAT. IT'S JUST A FORMALITY. I THINK IT'S WAVING. IT'S US AS THE CLIENT WAVING THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL TO ALLOW THEM TO, I GUESS, NEGOTIATE ON OUR BEHALF FOR THEIR BEHALF. Y SIN IS NO CONFLICT. I CAN ANSWER ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND SAYING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US CONTINUING TO REPRESENT YOU AS YOUR ATTORNEYS REGARDING THIS CONFLICT, REGARDING EVERYTHING. LIKE IF THOSE ATTORNEYS ARE HAVE A CONFLICT BECAUSE OF THIS, THEY HAVE A CONFLICT THAT EXTENDS TO ALL ADVICE THAT THEY GIVE YOU, RIGHT? SO ANY LEGAL ADVICE? SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF I WAS YOUR ATTORNEY AND THERE'S SOMETHING THAT GIVES ME A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN TERMS OF REPRESENTING YOU TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, IT APPLIES TO ALL ADVICE, LEGAL ADVICE I'M GIVING YOU, NOT JUST ON THAT ONE CASE. WELL, HOW WILL WE RESOLVE THIS ISSUE? I THINK IT'LL HOPEFULLY IT GETS RESOLVED. BUT IF IT DOESN'T, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY. I CAN'T THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE. PAY PERIOD. WHAT WAS THE HIGHEST AMOUNT THAT WAS OWED BACK? $6. NO I'M JOKING. HIGHEST AMOUNT WAS 1300 C TOTAL OVER 15 EMPLOYEES PLUS BENEFITS IS ABOUT 7100. SOMEBODY SAY THEY GOT 1300 FROM ME. I'M NOT SURE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE PAID FOR, SOMETHING THAT THEY DIDN'T DO. SO I WOULD THINK IF THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY, THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND. YEAH. BUT SOME OF THEM, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT ARGUMENT. WELL THEY COULD. FOR LIKE 30 YEARS AND NO ONE EVER COMES TO YOU WHEN THEY'RE OVERPAID. OH, NO. PAY THEM A DIME UNTIL. SO BUT BUT AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, LOOK, IF IT IF IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, THIS ISSUE SPECIFICALLY, WE HAVE TO HAVE LEGAL, YOU KNOW, INDEPENDENT OR OBJECTIVE, LET'S SAY OBJECTIVE LEGAL ADVICE. WE CAN BRING IN AN OUTSIDE COUNSEL. OKAY. BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT THIS CONFLICT SOMEHOW CAN IMPAIR THEIR ABILITY TO ADVISE US ON ANY LEGAL MATTER, THAT'S WHY WE'RE EXECUTING THIS WEEK. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST WAIVER, IF JOHN CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT FROM MY RECOLLECTION, FROM WHEN I REVIEWED IT, IT IT IT HAS A PROVISION IN IT THAT SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT AS TO THIS ISSUE, IF THE ATTORNEY FEELS THAT THEY ARE IN ANY WAY UNABLE TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIVE ADVICE, THEY WILL WITHDRAW FROM FROM THE REPRESENTATION AT ALL ON THIS ISSUE. COOL. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DID WE HAVE THE MOTION? WE HAVE MOTION SECOND MOTION. AND SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ■HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO 55 THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ANNUAL REVIEW FOR DIRECTOR FACILITIES THAT WILL BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. I KNOW WE HAVE ONE ITEM TO TALK ABOUT REGARDING NEGOTIATION ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY. DO I NEED TO DO WE NEED 56 AND 57 OR 56 IS

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