Feb 04, 2026 Commissioners Court

HE'S ON A WORKOUT RIGHT NOW. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. IF I CAN HAVE EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION. GOOD

[CALL TO ORDER]

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AT THIS TIME, BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR AGENDA, WE ASK IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PLEASE STAND AND JOIN COMMISSIONER AMSLER AND INVOCATION FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE LED BY COMMISSIONER BECKENHAM. DID YOU JOIN ME IN THE LORD'S PRAYER? OUR FATHER, WHO ART IN HEAVEN, HALLOWED BE THY NAME. THY KINGDOM COME, THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD, AND FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES, AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US. AND LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION, BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL. FOR THINE IS THE KINGDOM, THE POWER, AND THE GLORY FOREVER. AMEN. PLEASE BASE OUR NATION'S FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OUR STATE FLAG. HONOR TO TESTIFY. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. AND WITH THAT, WE WILL START OUR MEETING WITH NUMBER ONE, APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. MOTION, SECOND MOTION, AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED. THE AGENDA IS APPROVED. NEXT, WE

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT THREE INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP THIS MORNING. THE FIRST IS GOING TO BE SHANNON BERKELBACH. MISS BERKELBACH, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK NOW OR WAIT UNTIL THOSE AGENDA ITEMS LATER, PLEASE? OKAY. VERY GOOD. NEXT IS GOING TO BE DOCTOR MADDOX. GOOD MORNING JUDGE. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WAGE THEFT. WAGE THEFT IS WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO A JOB AND YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET A WAGE FOR IT, AND THEN YOU DON'T SHOW UP AND YOU DON'T DO THAT JOB. THAT'S WHAT WAGE THEFT IS. NOW, I'VE SEEN THAT APPLIED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT I SELDOM SEE IT APPLY TO PEOPLE IN YOUR POSITION. WHEN WE HAD A SPACE ISSUE, YOU SAID WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT COMMISSIONERS COURT TO TWO DAYS A MONTH, RIGHT? INSTEAD OF MEETING WEEKLY, WE'RE GOING TO JUST DO THAT TWO DAYS A MONTH. WE DON'T HAVE A SPACE ISSUE ANYMORE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON THE AGENDA TO GO BACK TO TO ONCE A MONTH, BECAUSE WE HAVE ISSUES. I HAVE ISSUES ON THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW THAT YOU KNOW, BETTER LATE THAN NEVER. BUT IF WE COULD BE TIMELY, IF YOU WOULD MEET A LITTLE MORE OFTEN, IF YOU WOULD MEET SO THAT WE COULD BE ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF THE COUNTY IN AN EXPEDITIOUS WAY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO PLEASE GO BACK TO THAT.

SECONDLY, WE USED TO HAVE FIVE MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I THINK THAT IT'S WORTH HEARING THE PEOPLE, IF THEY ONLY HAVE A FEW MINUTES EVERY WEEK. SO WE CAN MOVE THAT BACK TO FIVE MINUTES. WE DON'T HAVE TO STAY WITH THIS COMPROMISE. WE CAN DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COUNTY. GO BACK TO MEETING ONCE A WEEK, MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, PROVIDE MINUTES. NOW REGARDING THE WAGE THEFT. I WAS LOOKING AT THE CONTRACTS FOR THE ELECTION, AND IT SAYS THAT THE ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR IS IS NOT UP WITH DOING TRAINING FOR THE ELECTION WORKERS. NOW, I THINK WHEN YOU ONLY DO SOMETHING ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR, YOU PROBABLY NEED REPETITIVE TRAINING, RIGHT? SO I WANT THE ELECTIONS COMMISSION, WHICH IS ME, THE COUNTY CHAIR FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE COUNTY CHAIR FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, JUDGE TREY DUHON. DEBBIE, DEBBIE, DEBBIE HOLLAND, WHO IS OUR COUNTY CLERK AND OUR TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, CAROLYN MINKY, BACK THERE TO MEET. I'VE ASKED THAT WE MEET SO THAT WE CAN TELL THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS OF HER ARE, BECAUSE THAT'S OUR ONLY JOB, RIGHT? TO TELL HER WE'RE GOING TO HIRE YOU TO DO THIS. AND THESE ARE OUR EXPECTATIONS. AND IF YOU CANNOT MEET OUR EXPECTATIONS, THEN WE NEED TO HIRE ANOTHER ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR. SO I THINK OUR ELECTION WORKERS NEED TO BE TRAINED. I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE HER A TALK. IF JUDGE DUHON WILL NOT CALL A MEETING, AND I'VE ASKED HIM TO CALL ONE, AND IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS NOW, THEN I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CALL IT. HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THERE. THAT WILL BE ENOUGH. WE CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS WITHOUT HIM. I DON'T KNOW WHY HE HASN'T CALLED IT, BUT IT'S WHAT I CALL WAGE THEFT. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE HIRING YOU TO DO A CERTAIN JOB AND YOU DON'T SHOW UP TO DO IT. SO ANYWAY, I THINK THE ELECTION WORKERS SHOULD BE TRAINED AND I AND I,

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NEXT WE HAVE GREG HENRY. HELLO, JUDGE. COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING. I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REMIND YOU, AS WELL AS ALL THE PUBLIC THAT ARE OUT THERE, THAT VIRUSES ARE RAMPANT AND THEY'RE TERRIBLE. RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE A PHISHING COMES IN THROUGH EMAILS. THEY'RE GETTING REALLY SMART. SOME THINGS THAT ARE ARE EMAIL SECURITY DEVICES DON'T CATCH. THEY STILL COME THROUGH. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE EMAIL THEM TO US, BUT WE DO CONTINUALLY TO TEST AND TRAIN. SO YOU DO GET EMAILS THAT WE WE SEND FOR TESTING AND TRAINING AS WELL. BUT THE ONE THING THAT'S STARTING TO COME THROUGH THAT'S REALLY MORE, MORE INTERESTING IS AS YOU COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF WALLER COUNTY, SOME OF THOSE OTHER THOSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE REAL SECURE EMAILS AT AOL, YAHOO, GMAIL, THOSE KIND OF THINGS WHERE THEY GRAB YOUR YOUR SIGNATURE BLOCK, OKAY, THEY GET YOUR PHONE NUMBER, THEY GET SOME INFORMATION.

THEY'LL IF YOU HAVE A VERIZON PHONE AND THEY'LL GET ON THE SYSTEM WITH VERIZON, IT WON'T HAPPEN WITH THE COUNTY PHONE, BUT WITH MAYBE YOUR PERSONAL THEY'LL GET INTO THE SYSTEM FOR VERIZON AND THEY'LL CALL YOU AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TURN ON. THIS HAPPENED TO ME MYSELF.

THEY'LL THEY'LL TURN ON THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO MAKE CHANGES TO YOUR ACCOUNT AND THE ORDER STUFF. SO THEY FOR ME, THEY ORDERED A BUNCH OF IPADS AND THINGS OVER $4,000, AND IT ALL WENT TO AN ADDRESS IN CYPRUS. WHILE THEY WERE ON THE PHONE, I PICKED UP MY OTHER PHONE AND I CALLED VERIZON. I SAID, THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AND THEY TOLD ME TO COMPLETE IT WITH THEM, BUT DON'T ANSWER ANY EMAILS THEY SEND ME. AND AND THEY WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY CATCH THEM BECAUSE EVIDENTLY THEY WERE. THEY DID. A LOT OF THEM ARE SHIPPING TO THE SAME ADDRESS IN CYPRUS ON THAT DAY. SO IT'S SCARY. IT'S DANGEROUS. THEY SAID IF YOU WOULD HAVE ANSWERED THE EMAIL AND CLICKED A YES, YOU AND A DAY WOULD HAVE PASSED. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BATTLE TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK. SO JUST JUST AWARE. SO ALSO SECOND TO THAT NOTE, AS I MENTIONED MANY TIMES IN COURT, IF ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL OR DEPARTMENT HEADS FINDS THAT THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH THE IT DEPARTMENT. YEAH. THANK YOU. MISS YOU ALL HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER. IT'S ON THE IT'S ON THE ON THE THE EMPLOYEE LIST AND MY EXTENSION NUMBER AND STUFF.

FEEL FREE TO CALL ME DIRECTLY AND WE CAN SOLVE WHATEVER PROBLEM IT IS FOR ANYBODY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING? OKAY, GREAT. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. I JUST WANTED TO NOTIFY Y'ALL AND THE PUBLIC THAT THE PUBLIC MEETING THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR, I BELIEVE IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO RELATIVE TO THE HVAC SAFETY ACTION PLAN, HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 24TH. IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE SAME LOCATION, SO IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE PRECINCT FOUR ANNEX, AND IT'S GOING TO BE BETWEEN 6 AND 8 P.M. OKAY. WE'LL GET THAT ON OUR WEBSITE AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA. YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOT THREE. IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN. YOU GUYS KNOW I'M A BIG FAN OF THE FOUR H AND FFA KIDS. NEXT WEEKEND, THE 14TH, THE STARTING NEXT WEEK. THAT TUESDAY THE 10TH, THE FFA IS GOING TO START THEIR ANNUAL SHOW. THEIR SALE IS GOING TO BE ON VALENTINE'S DAY. SO BRING YOUR SWEETHEART OUT THERE AND SUPPORT THE YOUNG FOLKS. THEN THE FOLLOWING FRIDAY THE 20TH IS HEMPSTEAD FFA AND THEN THE 27TH. THE FOLLOWING FRIDAY IS WALLER FFA. SO ALL OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND I THINK THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND AFTER THAT IS FFA. SO ALL OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE GOING TO BE VERY, VERY BUSY. BUT IT'S A FANTASTIC ORGANIZATION. IT TEACHES OUR YOUNG MEN AND YOUNG WOMEN LEADERSHIP SKILLS, RESPONSIBILITY. AND AND THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO GO SUPPORT THEM.

SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GOING ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKENDS, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE

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JACKIE CRAVER AND ALL THE VOLUNTEERS, THE BOARD MEMBERS, ALL THE OFFICERS OF CRIME STOPPERS PUT ON A GREAT EVENT. I THINK THEY RAISED WELL OVER $100,000. I THINK THEY GOT JUST $100,000 IN THE AUCTION, I BELIEVE. AND OUR OWN SHERIFF, SHERIFF GUIDRY, ACTUALLY HAD AN AUCTION ITEM. IT WAS A DAY WITH THE SHERIFF, AND IT WENT FOR NOT ONLY DID IT GO FOR $10,000, BUT THEN SOMEBODY MET TWO OTHER BIDDERS MATCHED THAT AMOUNT. SO SHERIFF GUIDRY, JUST WITH HIS AUCTION ITEM, RAISED OVER $30,000 FOR WALLER COUNTY CRIME STOPPERS. I DID A GOLF TOURNAMENT, NOT A GOLF TOURNAMENT, BUT A DAY, YOU KNOW, PLAY GOLF WITH THE JUDGE. I ONLY BROUGHT IN FIVE GRAND, SO THE SHERIFF BEAT ME. BUT LIKE I SAID, AT CRIME STOPPERS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF US ACTUALLY HAVE WORK TO DO. SO. BUT ANYWAY, NO, I APPRECIATE THE SHERIFF AND EVERYBODY THAT WAS THERE. IT WAS REALLY A GREAT EVENT. LISA AND I GOT TO SERVE AS HONORARY CO-CHAIRS, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR SUPPORTING WALLER COUNTY CRIME STOPPERS, BECAUSE THEY REALLY DO HELP US AND SUPPORT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND DOING THE JOB THAT THEY DO.

SO THANK EVERYONE FOR THAT. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE DAIS? OKAY THEN WITH THAT, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT I'M AWARE OF, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD. JUDGE, DO WE HAVE OUR NEXT COMMISSIONERS COURT EARLY BECAUSE OF OUR CONFERENCE WHERE WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS COURT ON THE 11TH AND 17TH A WEEK FROM TODAY. SO OKAY, BECAUSE OF THE WE HAVE THE VG YOUNG CONFERENCE COMING UP, NOT NEXT WEEK BUT THE WEEK AFTER, WHICH IS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND COUNTY JUDGE CONFERENCE. SO IN LIGHT OF THAT, WE ACTUALLY THAT MEETING'S BEING MOVED UP. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO BACK TO BACK MEETINGS. SO WE WILL BE HERE ON THE 11TH NEXT WEEK, SAME TIME AS USUAL. AND WE WON'T HAVE COMMISSIONERS COURT. THE FOLLOWING WILL NOT HAVE COMMISSIONERS COURT ON THE NO.

WE WILL HAVE A MEETING. BUT IT'S JUST TO PAY BILLS ON THE 17TH. SO IT'LL BE QUICK IN AND OUT. IT'LL BE ON A TUESDAY. SO JUST CHECK THE SCHEDULES. I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO SHOW UP

[CONSENT AGENDA]

[PROCLAMATION]

COMMEMORATIONS. THE THEME HONORS HOW DOCTOR CARTER WOODSON CONCEPT OF HISTORY WEEK HAS EVOLVED TO BECOME AN ANNUAL, MONTH LONG, SCHOLARLY AND SUSTAINED MOVEMENT TO STUDY, TEACH, AND DISSEMINATE BLACK HISTORY. WHEREAS IN 1915, DOCTOR CARTER GOODEN WOODSON, NOTED BLACK SCHOLAR AND SON OF FORMER SLAVE, FOUNDED THE ASSOCIATION OF STUDY OF LIFE AND HISTORY, WHICH WAS LATER RENAMED THE ASSOCIATION FOR THE STUDY OF AFRICAN AMERICAN LIFE AND HISTORY. AS A LH, AND WHEREAS, DOCTOR WOODSON INITIATED BLACK HISTORY WEEK, FEBRUARY 12TH, 1926, AND FOR MANY YEARS THE SECOND WEEK OF FEBRUARY, CHOSEN SO AS TO COINCIDE WITH THE BIRTHDAYS OF FREDERICK DOUGLASS AND ABRAHAM LINCOLN, WAS CELEBRATED BY AFRICAN AMERICANS IN THE UNITED STATES, AND IN 1976, AS PART OF THE NATION'S BICENTENNIAL, BLACK HISTORY WEEK WAS EXPANDED AND BECAME ESTABLISHED AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH, AND WHEREAS TODAY THE OBSERVANCE OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES STANDS AS A TESTAMENT TO THE SUCCESS OF WOODSON PROJECT AND AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE COULD WORK TOGETHER.

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VERY GOOD. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, THEN. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ALL OPPOSED. PROCLAMATION IS APPROVED AND IT IS SIGNED. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE

[WALLER COUNTY CHILD WELFARE BOARD]

YOU DO HAVE TO SUBMIT TO A BACKGROUND CHECK OBVIOUSLY, BUT AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE A WALTON COUNTY RESIDENT, I BELIEVE AS WELL. YES, YOU DO, BUT THERE'S SOME INFORMATION ONLINE IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED. OR YOU CAN TALK TO ANY OF US OR ALLEN, AS WELL AS ON THE WELFARE BOARD OR ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY, THEY'D BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. SO THANK ALL OF Y'ALL FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO. SO WITH THAT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 35 OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED 35 CARRIES. LET'S NOW LET'S GO TO 36 MOTION. SECOND I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ON 36. SO THIS IS BASICALLY REAPPOINTING FOLKS FOR THE UPCOMING TERMS. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT JORY. DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY. JORY CHAVIS AND ROBERT GOODSPEED FOR A ONE YEAR TERM, WENDY WILLIAMS, CAROLYN MIDKIFF PATRICIA SANDERLIN, CANDICE ADAMS FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, AND THEN ANTHONY POLKEY, SHERRY WHITLEY, AND ALLEN YOUNTS FOR A THREE YEAR TERM. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? JUST THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND SERVING THE KIDS OF THE COUNTY. YES. AS ALWAYS, APPRECIATE WHEN YOUR TIME. YES. OH, ALAN, I'M SURE WE CAN AMEND THE THE THE THE THE BYLAWS IF HE. I NEED TO BORROW SOMEBODY'S BIRTHDAY. ALL

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[COUNTY COURT AT LAW II]

[ELECTIONS]

EVERYTHING IS RIGHT THERE IN ONE SPACE. PLUS WE CAN ALSO HAVE HAVE A POLL IN THAT OFFICE AS WELL. SO ANYWAY, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND IF YOU'RE GOT ANY BUSINESS WITH THE ELECTIONS OFFICE, IT'S AT THE ANNEX AND IT COMES UP EVERY YEAR. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THE FOUR LOCATIONS FOR EARLY VOTING, AND A LOT OF THAT IS WHEN THEY CHANGED THE THE LAW. THAT SAID, WE CAN'T HAVE EARLY VOTING 2 OR 3 DAYS HERE, THEN MOVE IT. AND SO WE HAD BETTER COVERAGE. THEY SAY IF IT'S OPEN EVEN ONE DAY, IT HAS TO BE OPEN THE WHOLE TEN DAYS. AND IT'S VERY HARD WHEN WE DON'T HAVE 20 COUNTY FACILITIES SCATTERED ACROSS THE COUNTY TO TO DO THAT. IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD GREAT PARTNERS LIKE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND IGLOO THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE VOTING FOR 2 OR 3 DAYS. WE CAN'T PUT THEM OUT FOR TEN DAYS. AND SO I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS IN THE FUTURE, ESPECIALLY FOR SOME OF THE

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SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED. 40 CARRIES. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE UP 41 TO 45. 45.

[COUNTY ENGINEER]

SELL FOR 45. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS. JUST TAKE THEM ONE BY ONE. WE CAN DO THAT IF THAT'S I THINK MOST OF IT IS BOND STUFF UNTIL WE GET TO 40 5 A.M. I CORRECT? NO, SIR. OH NO. YEAH. THE FIRST AMENDMENT 41 AND 42 ARE FOR THE THE RILEY ROAD BRIDGE. LET'S GO AHEAD, IF YOU DON'T MIND. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A COUPLE THERE'S A COUPLE OF CHANGE ORDERS. ONE I THINK IS SELF-EXPLANATORY. YOU HAD THEM DO SOME NIGHT WORK. WE WERE TRYING TO MINIMIZE CLOSURE. RIGHT. THAT ROAD. CORRECT.

RIGHT. YES, SIR. JUST KIND OF GOING OVER. SO CHANGE ORDER ONE IS TO EXTEND A EXTEND A DRAIN PIPE THAT'S JUST RIGHT WITHIN THE THE PROJECT LIMITS. AND SO IT ONLY MAKES SENSE SINCE WE HAVE THE ROAD WE'RE WORKING IN THE AREA, WE WE EXTEND THAT OUT AND THEN CHANGE. ORDER TWO IS FOR THE THE NIGHT WORK FOR PLACING THE BEAMS. AND I WOULD BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD DEAL CONSIDERING THE THE MINIMAL IMPACT TO THE PUBLIC. AND SO DOING THAT AT NIGHT WAS REALLY A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITIZENS. AND WE GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FOR THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT THOSE TWO CHANGE ORDERS ARE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

AND THEN THIS IS JUST 43 AND 44. THAT'S DUE TO A NAME CHANGE. IS THAT CORRECT. THEY ARE NAME CHANGES. YES SIR. THAT'S PRETTY EASY. AND. 4545 IS TO CROSS THE HILCORP PIPELINE. AND AGAIN THAT'S JUST BASICALLY PERMISSION. AND SO GET YOUR APPROVAL ON THAT AND WE'LL GIVE THEM PROPER NOTIFICATION AS PER THAT AGREEMENT OKAY. YEAH. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT ON EVERY PIPELINE. SO MORTON ROAD THERE'S ONLY LIKE 35. SO MOST MOST PIPELINES. YEP. YEAH THERE'S THERE'S 35 ON A MILE AND A HALF. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS FOR ROSS ON ANY OF THOSE AGENDA ITEMS. 41 THROUGH 45 OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED. THANK YOU. ROSS. OKAY. 46 THROUGH 48.

[SHERIFF]

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[COMMISSIONER, PRECINCT 2]

AND ALSO TXDOT IS KICKED OFF, I BELIEVE THE STUDY FOR THE PORTION NORTH OF I-10 AND.

HAVING LEARNED THE HARD WAY, IF IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. AND THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS ARE STARTING UP THE BUDGETING PROCESS. I THINK IT WOULD BE IN THE COUNTY'S BEST INTEREST FOR US TO. TO HAVE SOMEONE LOOK AT WHAT AN OPTIMUM ROUTE WOULD BE FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE, SHOULD THAT THING BE BUILT FOR THE PURPOSE OF BEING ABLE TO ADD A CORRIDOR ONTO OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT ROSS CAN THEN ENFORCE WITH DEVELOPMENTS? BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IS YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT GROWING ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE MIDDLE AND SOUTHERN END OF THE COUNTY, AND IT WON'T BE TOO LONG IN THE FUTURE BEFORE. THERE'LL BE A IT'LL BE CUT OFF SO THAT ANY ROUTE THAT COMES THROUGH WILL BE FILLED WITH SUBDIVISIONS, AND THAT WILL MAKE IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT THAT THING GO FORWARD. SO I'M ASKING THAT THAT BE CONSIDERED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET PROCESS FOR 27, SO THAT WE HAVE MONEY IN PLACE TO DO THAT. THIS IS NOT ADVOCATING FOR OR AGAINST IT. THIS IS SIMPLY SAYING, LOOK, IF THEY ARE GOING TO PICK A ROUTE, WE WANT TO HAVE AS MUCH IMPACT AS TO WHERE THAT ROUTE IS. AND WE ALSO WANT TO LOWER THE COST AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BY PROVIDING A CORRIDOR THROUGH THERE THAT THAT CAN KEEP DEVELOPMENT OUT OF THAT CORRIDOR SO THAT IT'LL JUST BE REAL ESTATE THAT'S BEING PURCHASED, NOT REAL ESTATE WITH IMPROVEMENTS ON IT. SO I'M ASKING THE BUDGET COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER ADDING MONEY INTO THE 27 BUDGET TO COVER THAT COST.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE KEEP IN MIND, I WON'T BE HERE. SO. BUT I'M LOOKING BEYOND WHEN I'M. I JUST WONDER IF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED TO ROSS AND JAKE ABOUT UPDATING OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN MAP. I WONDER IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD COULD DO SIMULTANEOUSLY, WHERE WE HAVE A GROUP COME IN AND LOOK AT IT AND HOPEFULLY HAVE THAT STUDY AT THE TIME, IT COULD TO BE ADDED ON INTO THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN UPDATE. OR WERE THOSE TIME FRAMES NOT ALIGNED? I THINK WE COULD RUN SOMETHING CONCURRENTLY. YEAH. SO A COUPLE THINGS. SO THERE'S THOROUGHFARE PLAN UPDATE IN PROCESS AND THAT'S ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF PROCESS. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A YEAR AND A HALF FROM NOW. HE HAS INDICATED THAT WE. WERE ABLE TO HAVE A MOBILITY STUDY. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT THERE IS A NEED HERE. I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER SMITH BRINGING THIS UP. I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY SOMETHING WE COULD WE COULD LOOK AT. IN ADDITION TO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN UPDATE, THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION IS THAT. TXDOT IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CORRIDOR STUDY. AND SO WHATEVER WE DO AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT UNDERMINING THAT PROCESS AND SUPPORTING IT. AND SO WHATEVER THAT EFFORT LOOKS LIKE, I WOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE ALSO COORDINATE WITH TXDOT. BUT THERE IS SOME SOME LEVEL OF EFFORT THERE THAT I WOULD AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SMITH ON, ON.

AND WE DO HAVE, I KNOW IN YOUR BUDGET, BUT ALSO THE COMMISSIONERS COURT BUDGET, PROFESSIONAL CONSULTING MONEY WHERE WE COULD START THE STUDY BECAUSE IF WE IF WE WAIT UNTIL WE PASS THE BUDGET AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, THEN THE STUDY CAN'T START UNTIL JANUARY 2027.

SO OBVIOUSLY THAT STUDY, WE CAN START IT POTENTIALLY THIS YEAR WITH THAT MONEY THAT'S ALREADY

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MAYBE WE COULD GO AHEAD AND START THE STUDY BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY I MEAN, WHETHER IT'S 36 A OR IT'S A COUNTY ROAD, YOU KNOW, THE LAST SIX MONTHS I LIVE ON THE SOUTH EAST CORNER OF THE COUNTY. IT'S 20 MINUTES FASTER FOR ME TO GET FROM MY HOUSE TO THE COURTHOUSE NOW BY GOING INTO HARRIS COUNTY, HOPPING ON THE GRAND PARKWAY AND MAKING THE LOOP, THAN IT IS FOR ME TO TAKE 362 AND 359. THAT'S HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IT'S ON THERE IN AN HOUR. I WOULD SAY IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IT'LL BE 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR TRYING TO COME UP. 363 WITH 350. OH, IT ALREADY IS 45 MINUTES EVEN. EVEN WORSE, AT ONE POINT I WANT TO MAKE. WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO, THOUGH, IS DRAW A LINE ON THE MAP THAT WE HAVE TO ENFORCE IN THE PLANNING PROCESS. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE CORRECT, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT A 400 OR 500 FOOT WIDE STRIP NORTH TO SOUTH. THAT IS NOTHING. SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO TO TRY TO LOOK AT WE'LL LOOK AT A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THIS CORRIDOR STUDY WILL LOOK AT TO. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, ROSS, AND I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT I DO THINK THAT AT SOME POINT TEXDOT WILL WANT TO KNOW IF THE COUNTY'S INPUT AND IT WILL HAVE EDUCATED RESPONSE WHEN WE DO, WHEN WE DO RESPOND. SO THIS WOULD HELP EVEN WITH THAT, EVEN IF WE STRICTLY FOLLOW THE NEPA PROCESS, IT'LL BE GOOD FOR US TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THE COUNTY. AND IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH WHICH THEY ALREADY ARE, IT'S BEST TO GET THEM UP AND OUT AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN AND HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IMPACT AS POSSIBLE. BUT I DO KNOW THIS THAT IF THE ROUTES CONSIST OF SIMPLY IMPROVING 362 OR 359 WILL CRASH LIKE A COMPUTER CRASH, BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION ALONG EITHER ONE OF THOSE CORRIDORS FOR 4 OR 5 YEAR PERIOD WILL SEVERELY OVER LOAD THE OTHER CORRIDOR. AND IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE FOR YEARS. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YEAH, I AGREE. AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S REALLY ONE THING I HOPE PEOPLE, THE GENERAL PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS PART OF OUR JOB BEING IN THE POSITION THAT WE ARE IN IS NOT JUST TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE FACING US TODAY, BUT TO LOOK DOWN THE ROAD AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. FIVE, TEN, 15, 20 YEARS FROM NOW. WE WE ARE LOOKING THAT FAR DOWN THE ROAD. AND WHAT IS SCARY IS TEXDOT RIGHT NOW IS CUTTING FUNDING. THEY THEY ARE CUTTING FUNDING TO CURRENT PROJECTS. THIS PROJECT 36 A EVEN IF IT BECOMES A REALITY, IS NOT A FUNDED PROJECT. THERE ARE NO FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THIS TODAY. AND EVEN IF THOSE FUNDS BECAME AVAILABLE, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT A TIMELINE THAT WOULD THAT WHERE CONSTRUCTION WOULDN'T EVEN START UNTIL 2035 OR THEREAFTER. I KNOW THE NEPA PROCESS IS SEVEN YEARS JUST BY ITSELF. SO WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE TIMELINE AND YOU LOOK AT THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE GOING IN RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTY, ADDING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND VEHICLES TO THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE WITH 359 AND 362, NOT JUST TENS OF THOUSANDS, PROBABLY OVER 100,000 PEOPLE. THAT WILL BE ADDED WELL BEFORE 2035. IT IS COULD I MEAN, YOU COULD BE LOOKING AT A TRAFFIC SITUATION. THAT WOULD BE A LITERAL NIGHTMARE. JUDGE. TEN YEARS AGO WE HAD ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT WAS BULL CREEK FARMS THAT HAD BEEN BUILT IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, AND NOW WE HAVE 15 THAT ARE ALREADY MOVING DIRT. AND SO AND WE'VE GOT ALL THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT HAVEN'T EVEN BROKEN DIRT YET. SO YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO TRY AND AND THERE IS NO MAGIC CRYSTAL BALL, BUT WE'VE GOT TO AT LEAST PLAN FOR SOME OF THIS STUFF, BECAUSE WHEN IT TAKES YOU AN

[00:40:02]

WELL, BY DOING IT NOW, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF BLANK SLATE, BUT YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND TRY AND, YOU KNOW, AVOID THE KATY PRAIRIE CONSERVANCY. YOU CAN AVOID CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, VULNERABLE AREAS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MUCH THERE WHEN IN FIVE, TEN YEARS YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY ROUTE. MAYBE. SO. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO TRY TO COME UP WITH WHAT IT MIGHT COST US FOR WHAT I'M PROPOSING, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME IDEA IN THE BUDGET PROCESS JUST TO LOOK AT WHAT IS ON THE TEXTILE PROCESS. I BELIEVE THEY RELEASED THIS SOUTH OF I-10 STUDY, AND I THINK THAT 5 OR 7 ROUTES ARE THEY'RE PRETTY DETAILED, AREN'T THEY? WHEN WHEN TEX DOT COMES BACK WITH THE NORTH STUDY, IT'S VERY DETAILED ON THOSE THOSE THOSE SPECIFIC ROUTES. THE CORRIDOR STUDIES ARE PRETTY INVOLVED. YEAH. AND PUBLIC OUTREACH. THEY HAD LIKE SEVEN DIFFERENT ROUTES OF FIVE DIFFERENT ROUTES THAT THEY HAD PROPOSED. AND SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A GOOD, YOU KNOW, BEST CASE, WORST CASE AND COST AND IMPACTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT PART OF THE PART OF THE PROCESS IS TO HAVE ALTERNATE ROUTES TO. YES, RIGHT.

AND I WOULD EXPECT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT AS EXTENSIVE AS WHAT'S HAPPENING.

OH, SURE. BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THAT PROCESS WE WON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

SO ANYWAY. AND THERE WILL BE JUST SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS IS JUST NOW BEGINNING.

THERE WILL BE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, THERE WILL BE PUBLIC MEETINGS, THERE WILL BE TOWN HALLS, AND EVERYONE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. AND I JUST WHAT I HOPE PEOPLE WILL REALLY TAKE THE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IS, IS THERE. AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT THEIR PREFERENCE, THERE'S, THERE'S ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES WILL BE A NO BUILD ALTERNATIVE, BUT THAT NO BUILD ALTERNATIVE MEANS WHAT IS THE WHAT? WHAT IS THE RESULT OF THAT? NO BUILD.

BECAUSE IF WE IF WE JUST DECIDE, OH, WE'LL JUST EXPAND 359 OR WE'LL EXPAND 362, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WITH AN FM ROAD THAT'S GOING TO BE EIGHT LANES ACROSS AT LEAST, AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT EVERY HALF OF A MILE AT A MINIMUM. BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE RETAIL. SO IN OTHER WORDS, GO LOOK AT 1960 AND AND ASK YOURSELF, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET FROM 290 TO 45 IF YOU DRIVE 1960? BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE THE REALITY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE VOLUME. SO PEOPLE JUST NEED TO THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS, THAT HOW ARE WE GOING TO MOVE PEOPLE FROM POINT A TO POINT B, AND THOSE FOLKS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTY, THEY'RE NOT, I PROMISE YOU, THAT BOTTLENECK IN BROOKSHIRE, AT THE RAILROAD TRACKS, THAT IS GOING TO GET WAY, WAY WORSE BEFORE WE EVEN HAVE A VIABLE SOLUTION. SO, PEOPLE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS. HOW DO YOU HAVE GROWTH IS COMING? THREE 5362 HAS FOR ALMOST 90 DEGREE TURNS, HOW DO YOU HAVE SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC MAKING 90 DEGREE TURNS? 359 GOES, YOU KNOW, CROSSES I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CREEKS. AND WHEN WE HAVE FLOODS, IT'S CLOSED DOWN IN SEVERAL AREAS. SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE.

COMMISSIONER SMITH, I DO ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THIS PAST APRIL, WE APPROVED TO ENGAGE IN THE THIRD PARTY, WHICH ALLOWED FOR US TO TALK TO TEXTILE, TEXTILE VENDORS, TO TALK ABOUT 36. I THINK THAT BY THE SOUNDS OF IT, YOU HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE COURT TO GO OUT AND SEEK WHAT THAT POSSIBILITY MAY LOOK LIKE. AND WHY NOT USE SOME OF THE I MEAN, LAST YEAR WE STRUGGLED TO USE THE COMMISSIONERS COURT CONSULTING LINE ITEM GOING AT THE PROJECT.

SO IF THERE'S SOME FUNDING NOW, LIKE COMMISSIONER BECKENDORFF SAID, WHY NOT START THAT PROCESS NOW IF WE COULD? AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I'M PRETTY SURE ROBERT WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO HELP FACILITATE THIS AS WELL. AND AND TO SUMMARIZE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO WHEN WHEN WE REVISED THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN IN 17, WE KIND OF PUT A LINE ON THE MAP. BUT THAT WAS JUST THAT WAS JUST LOOKING AT A MAP AND GOING,

[00:45:05]

THAT WAS SUCH A VERY HIGH LEVEL LOOK. AND WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO IS GET DOWN TO A MORE REALISTIC POTENTIAL ROUTE SO THAT IF THIS PROJECT DOES BECOME A REALITY, THE COUNTY CAN HAVE AN OPINION ON THE ROUTE OF THAT FACILITY. SO BECAUSE THEY WILL BE LOOKING TO US FOR THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO COME UP WITH. SO SO TO COMMISSIONER SMITH'S POINT, I DO THINK THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T SEE ABOUT USING CONSULTING MONEY THAT WE HAVE AND STARTING THAT THIS YEAR, AT LEAST GETTING IT UNDERWAY SO THAT IT RUNS CONCURRENTLY WITH THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN UPDATE THROUGH HGH. WELL, ESPECIALLY WHERE WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, SO WE CAN LET THOSE LANDOWNERS KNOW WE NEED POTENTIALLY THIS THIS PORTION SET OUT, BUT ALSO PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING TO BUY OR SELL, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN MAP. I KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, IT WAS A 30,000 FOOT VIEW. AND PEOPLE, SOME PEOPLE PANICKED. WELL, THIS LINE GOES RIGHT THROUGH MY HOUSE. NO, THAT JUST MEANS IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GO WITHIN FIVE MILES OF THAT LINE. AND SO IT MIGHT MIGHT HELP EASE SOME PEOPLE'S FEAR. YEAH. VERY GOOD. MISS BIRKBECK, I KNOW YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. SOME OF YOUR TIME THERE. SHANNON. THANK YOU FOR MR. SMITH FOR DOING THIS. COMMISSIONER SMITH. I DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE PRECINCT TWO ON THAT SIDE. I'M GUESSING YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN I-10 AND 290 ON THIS PORTION OF THE 36. I KNOW IT WILL CONTINUE ALL THE WAY TO FORT WORTH AT SOME POINT. THAT THAT IS A PORTION WITHIN WALLER COUNTY THAT'S ANTICIPATED. SO AND AND I JUST ALSO WANT TO SAY THIS TO COMMISSIONER SMITH HAS STATED TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT HE DOESN'T WANT 36 TO COST 290 AND GO ON TO PRECINCT TWO. SO IT WOULD TAKE ON THAT SEGMENT. YEAH. THAT'S ALWAYS YEAH, I THINK THAT'S BEEN A COURT POSITION THAT IT DOESN'T. THAT PRECINCT THREE AND FOUR TAKE ON THE IMPACT OF 36 EIGHT. BUT BESIDES THREE AND FOUR IT DIDN'T IMPACT ANYWHERE. THERE WAS A ROUTE ABOUT 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO THAT HAD IT GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO SIX. BUT THAT'S BEEN AND I WANT TO SAY THE COURT FOUGHT TO GET THAT REMOVED AS WELL. OKAY. THIS IS MY 14TH YEAR ON THE COURT. THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. FROM DAY ONE.

IT'S LIKE A BROKEN RECORD UNTIL THERE'S MONEY AVAILABLE TO MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN. IT'S THIS IS ALL MOOT. WELL, I BELIEVE THAT THAT WE MIGHT HAVE A SOME SUPPORT. NOW, I'M JUST ABOUT TO SAY THAT TIME LINE FROM THE STATE. AT ONE POINT IN TIME, IT WASN'T EVEN ON THE STATE PLANNING LIST LAST YEAR, ACTUALLY, UP UNTIL APRIL, WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT, IT WENT FROM NOT BEING ON THE LIST TO BEING A PROJECT THAT IS NOW ON THE TOP. I WANT TO SAY PROJECTS TO GET DONE OR GET MOVING BY 2040. SO THE PROJECT HAS GOTTEN MORE, I BELIEVE, WHEN I SEE IT. I THINK YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT, ACTUALLY. YOU'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT IT FOR A LONG TIME, AND THE POINT IS, IT TAKES A LONG TIME. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE TIME IT TOOK TO BUILD FROM CONCEPT TO CONSTRUCTION OF 99, A BELTWAY EIGHT, I MEAN, I DID THE SURVEY, SOME OF THE SURVEYING FOR BELTWAY EIGHT BACK IN 1980, NOT 16. LUKE, I'M SORRY I SAID NOT THE 16 LOOP. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'LL GET YOU BACK. AND I WANT TO SAY THIS AND THEN GIVE IT BACK TO MISS BURKE. EXACTLY RIGHT. THESE THINGS ARE SLOW MOVING.

ANY ANY GRAND. SCALE, LIKE, SAY, 99. AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT JUST IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. AND IMAGINE WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR COSTS AS THAT THING PLAYS OUT AND PLAYS OUT AND PLAYS OUT. WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS TO TRY TO STREAMLINE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE, IF IT DOES GET BUILT, THAT IT CAN GET BUILT FOR A NUMBER. AND I KNOW THIS APPEALS TO YOU FOR THE CHEAPER NUMBER THAN IF WE DON'T DO IT. SO YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME. I'M TRYING TO MOVE BEYOND TALKING AND SAYING, LET'S DO SOMETHING TO TRY TO HAVE AN INFLUENCE IF IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AS TO WHERE IT HAPPENS. BUT YOU THINK ABOUT GOING BACK IS THEY DO TAKE A LONG TIME. I-10 WAS BUILT IN

[00:50:04]

AND I JUST HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT LIVE RIGHT THERE, LIKE BLANCA ROAD, WHICH IS PRECINCT TWO. AND SO THEY'RE PROBABLY WATCHING NOW. SO, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF FARMS. SO ANYBODY THAT HAS 100 YEAR OLD FARM, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD GET IT, YOU KNOW, BLOCKED. SO THERE'S A LOT RIGHT THERE WHERE I GO PLAY PICKLEBALL. SO DON'T MESS WITH MY PICKLEBALL COURTS.

SO ANYWAY, JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I'M JUST GOING TO STAY INVOLVED AND I'LL SEE YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING. I WOULD I WOULD SAY THE LIKELIHOOD OF IT, PRACTICALLY ANY OF IT BEING IN PRECINCT TWO IS LOW. BUT I DON'T WANT TO PREDETERMINE WHERE IT IS. BUT IN JUST LOOKING AT IT MYSELF, FROM WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER OBSTACLES AND STRENGTHS, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE FURTHER WEST THAN THAT. BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE WANT THAT. I WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS TRY TO GET AS MUCH LOCAL INPUT AS WE CAN GET AND CUT DOWN ON THE FEAR, BECAUSE THE FEAR IS UNKNOWN RIGHT NOW. EVERYTHING WE DO AS A AS A COUNTY, EVERYTHING WE DO INVOLVES CROSSING SOMEBODY'S LAND AND VERY FEW PEOPLE LIKE THAT. BUT IF WE DON'T DO SOME THINGS, THEN THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE UNBEARABLE. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST JUST AS. A COMPARISON POINT, GRAND PARKWAY, THE PLANNING FOR GRAND PARKWAY STARTED IN THE MID 80S. I BELIEVE THERE'S A REASON IT'S CALLED THE BOB LANIER EXPRESSWAY AND IT'S STILL NOT COMPLETE. THE SEGMENT, THE SEGMENT E, WHICH WAS CONNECTING I-10 TO 290, WHICH WAS REALLY THE FIRST MAJOR SEGMENT OTHER THAN THE ONE IN KATY CINCO RANCH. SO IT STARTED IN 2011, 27 YEARS FROM THE BEGINNING OF PLANNING TO ACTUALLY PUSHING DIRT ON A MAJOR ON THE FIRST MAJOR SEGMENT OF GRAND PARKWAY.

SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU A REFERENCE POINT ON HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET THESE THINGS GOING.

SO I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST SCARES ME TO THINK WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE 20, OH, TEN YEARS. SCARY TO THINK WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN TEN. YEAH. SO. YEAH, WE CAN WE CAN SIT HERE AND SAY, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO DO IT. I DON'T WANT TO DO IT. I DON'T WANT TO DO IT. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, MEANWHILE, THOSE THESE EXTERIOR FORCES ARE CONTINUING TO TIGHTEN THEIR GRIP ON, ON CUTTING OFF ACCESS. SO AS MUCH AS NOBODY WANTS IT, IT'S SOMETHING NOBODY FOR SURE IS GOING TO WANT. WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DO NOTHING? GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

[COMMISSIONER, PRECINCT 3]

THERE'S NO THERE WON'T BE ANY MOTION NEEDED OKAY. THANKS TO DA OFFICE, WHICH I THINK WILL PROBABLY WORK OUT VERY GOOD FOR THE COURT. RECEIVED A MEMO SOME WEEKS AGO. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE'VE PAID FOR A STUDY TO BE DONE, AND THAT STUDY WAS DONE. WHAT I'M ASKING FOR WAS GOING TO ASK FOR TODAY IS THAT WE SEE OR GET AN OUTSIDE INPUT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD USE THAT STUDY, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE MONEY THAT WE USED TO DO A STUDY THAT WE CAN'T PUT INTO TO TO ACTION. AND SO AFTER TALKING TO URIEL, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS GOING TO SEND A MEMO TO. JUST HAD A TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO SEE WHAT THEIR COMMENTS. YEAH.

LET'S SEE WHAT THEIR COMMENTS WOULD BE. SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING FROM THEM TO ALLOW US TO EITHER TO NOT MOVE FORWARD OR TO MOVE FORWARD. AND WE'LL AT LEAST KNOW IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE WOULDN'T BE PUTTING OURSELVES IN ANY HARM'S WAY. RIGHT. I

[00:55:01]

IT'S ONLY FROM FROM NEW REVENUE FROM THAT AREA ZONE BEING PUT BACK INTO THAT AREA. SO THIS IS THE ONE PENNY THOUGH THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET. NO, THAT'S NOT ONE PENNY. YOU'RE THINKING OF THE CAT. THAT'S THE COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICT THAT THAT IS THOSE FUNDS ARE GENERATED OFF THE SALES TAX IS A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU DESIGNATE THE ZONE AND THEN YOU SET A BASELINE WHAT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTIES AND THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE IN THAT ZONE. AND THEN AFTER LET'S SAY YOU BUILD A ROAD OR WHATEVER HAPPENS, THEN YOU HAVE RETAIL THAT COMES IN OR NEW HOUSES, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, OR COMMERCIAL. AND THEN THAT OF THAT INCREASE IN VALUE OVER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, THEN YOU TAKE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE. THERE'S AN AGREEMENT WHERE CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE REVENUE GENERATED BY THE GROWTH GETS REINVESTED BACK INTO THE DISTRICT TO PAY FOR SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT BASICALLY SPURRED OR WAS RELATED TO THE GROWTH OR, OR IS NEEDED BY THE GROWTH. IS THAT RATE ESTABLISHED AT THE TIME THE TERM IS SET UP, OR IS IT A SET RATE SET? RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, SO ARE WE IS IT 5% OF THE INCREASE? 1%? THE THE COURT SETS THE AMOUNT. OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS A SET AMOUNT THAT ALTERS THE SAME. Y'ALL COULD DO ANYTHING YOU WANTED. SO IN A WAY LIKE A. THIS WAS YEARS AGO. THE ROOMS TO GO THERE WAS WHEN ROOMS TO GO GOT BUILT AND WILLOW CREEK FARMS, IT WAS KIND OF IT WAS REALLY A THREE. THAT WAS A THREE, THREE, 81. SO IT WAS SET UP KIND OF LIKE A TOURS TO HELP BUILD KINGSLAND AND SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEN CREATED THAT, THAT GROWTH. DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE KATY MILLS MALL IS? I WAS ABOUT TO SAY SO. THE CITY OF KATY DID A TOURS IN THAT BIG AREA. SO WHEN THE MALL CAME IN, THAT HELPED THEM PUT ALL OF THE STREETS AND AND AS THE HOTELS CAME IN, ALL OF THAT PORTION OF THAT INCREASE STAYED IN THERE TO CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. OKAY. AND ARE Y'ALL GOING TO SHARE THE MAPS AS YOU START TO DEFINE THESE? SO THE COURT APPROVED THE STUDY AND EVERYTHING. IT WAS SPECIFICALLY TO MY PRECINCT AND A CERTAIN AREA OR HAD AREAS INCLUDED. AND THEN WE RAN INTO CONCERNS ON WHETHER OR NOT COMMISSIONER. WELL, WHETHER OR NOT COUNTIES COULD DO IT BECAUSE FOR THE LONGEST IT WAS A TOOL THAT WAS USED BY CITIES. AND NOT TOO LONG AGO, THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAD APPROVED THAT COUNTIES COULD DO IT. BUT THERE IS A VERDICT RIGHT NOW WHETHER OR NOT IT IS CONSTITUTIONAL.

ABLE TO BE A TOOL IN WHICH WE USE. AND SO THERE'S BEEN SOME BACK AND FORTH. AND GOOD THING

[01:00:02]

AND IF WE'RE TOLD, HEY, IT'S NOT A GO, THEN THE CONVERSATION STOPS HERE. WELL, WE HAVEN'T APPROVED A MAP. THERE WAS A PROPOSED MAP, BUT NOTHING'S BEEN APPROVED. AND Y'ALL WILL SHARE THOSE LATER. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO NO ACTION. THERE WON'T BE A MOTION. HOW

[DIRECTOR OF POLICY & ADMINISTRATION]

THEN WE KNOW WE CAN ALSO GIVE THE STAFF A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION OF LIKE, HEY! I DON'T WANT TO THROW ANYTHING OUT THERE, BUT HEY, WE CAN'T DO THIS FOR FOR HEY, WE SEE THIS COMING. HEY, GIVE US A COUPLE YEARS BECAUSE IN OUR PLAN, LIKE, WE HAVE A TOOL IN WHICH WE CAN USE RATHER THAN JUST DEPARTMENT HEADS OR ELECTED OFFICIALS FEELING LIKE, JUST LIKE

[01:05:01]

EVERYONE SHOULD FEEL LIKE THEIR DEPARTMENT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT DEPARTMENT, OR BEEN IMPACTED THE LEAST, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. AND THAT'S HAVING, IN MY OPINION, A STRATEGIC PLAN ALLOWS THE LONG RANGE PLANNING COMMITTEE TO BE ABLE TO SET SOME THINGS UP LONG TERM. ALSO LOOK AT OUR AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GOOD AND PROBABLY SOMETHING FOR A THIRD PARTY FIRM TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND HELP US WITH POPULATION GROWTH OR DEMOGRAPHICS. YEAH, IT DID, AND WE BLEW IT OUT THE WATER TO SEE WHAT WHAT THEY PROPOSED OR THEIR PROJECTIONS WERE IN 17 VERSUS I REMEMBER I CAN TELL YOU IT WAS LIKE 15. WE STARTED THAT PROCESS AND WE WERE AROUND AT THAT TIME. WE WERE AROUND BETWEEN 43 AND 45,000 IN POPULATION. THE PROJECTION WAS THAT WE WOULD DOUBLE IN POPULATION BY 2040. YEAH, WE'RE IN 2026 NOW AND WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ALREADY DOUBLE END EMPLOYEES. THE MOST INTERESTING ONE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. YEAH, THE MOST INTERESTING ONE IS EMPLOYEES AS WELL. LIKE IT WAS LIKE 2040. YOU WOULD BE CLOSE TO 500 EMPLOYEES. I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE ABOUT 440. YEAH. WHICH THAT THAT TO ME IS MIND BLOWING. YEAH. SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO, ROBERT, IS AT LEAST TRY TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS JUST LIKE WHAT COMMISSIONER WAS SAYING ON 36 A LIKE WHAT IS IT GOING TO BALLPARK? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF GETTING A CONSULTANT IN TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS? AND THEN BETWEEN 36 A AND THAT, DO WE HAVE THE CONSULTING MONEY TO START THESE PROCESSES THIS YEAR, OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE BUDGETED FOR THE NEXT CYCLE? I WORK WITH JAMIE AND WE'LL GET SOME ANSWERS FOR YOU GUYS BECAUSE, I MEAN, SINCE PART OF THE A&M SYSTEM, I MEAN, IS, IS DOES THAT STILL HAVE TO DO THE PROCUREMENT OR IS IT A BETTER PRICE BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE A&M SYSTEM? I DON'T I WOULD SAY THIS TX. TX IS DEFINITELY PROVIDES A LOT OF VALUE. I WILL I WILL TELL YOU THIS WHEN WE DID WORKED WITH THEM BECAUSE WE STARTED WITH COLLEGE OF AGRICULTURE AND HUMAN SCIENCES AT PRAIRIE VIEW. AND THEN KIND OF AS WE GOT DOWN THE ROAD, WE WE BROUGHT TX ON TO KIND OF HELP US GET GET ACROSS THE GOAL LINE. AND THEY'RE I DON'T WANT TO SAY THEY WERE HESITANT, BUT TYPICALLY TX IS THEY THEY TAKE THEY LOOK AT IT FROM AN ECONOMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT. AND WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT OUR THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE WERE DOING, THEY WERE LIKE, Y'ALL ARE REALLY BITING OFF A LOT TO COVERING A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS. BUT I THOUGHT THEY HAD A TRAFFIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT WITHIN TX, OR MAYBE IT WAS THROUGH THE COLLEGE WE HAD. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S IT'S PROBABLY STILL WORTH HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO SEE IF IT'S IS INVOLVED IN THAT STUDY IN 2017. YES. OKAY. THEN I WOULD I WOULD POINT OUT, AS I'VE DONE ONE TIME BEFORE, THE FACT THAT THEY TOTALLY MISSED THE PROJECTION BY THIS IS SERIOUS BY AS MUCH AND SEVERELY AS THEY DID. HOW MUCH CONFIDENCE DOES THAT GIVE YOU IN ANY STUDY? THEY GOT? WELL, AND I CAN AND I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. BUT GOING TO HGC AND THEN GOING TO SOME OF OUR DIFFERENT SCHOOL BOARDS, THEIR DEMOGRAPHERS, EVERYBODY'S MISSED IT. I MEAN, IT'S NOT JUST WALLER COUNTY, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, OTHER COUNTIES. SO IF IT'S A FUTURE PLANNING TOOL, WE WANT TO TRY TO GET AS ACCURATE ON THAT. OH, I AGREE 100%. I AGREE 100%, BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY. YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT OTHER POPULATION STUDIES AND STUFF, EVERYBODY HAS BEEN WAY BEHIND. THEY JUST THEY DIDN'T SEE THE GROWTH. SO THE COVID EFFECT I THINK I TELL YOU, A GUY IN THIS ROOM THAT CAN TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT THE GROWTH RATE IS GOING TO BE, AND THAT'S ROSS, BECAUSE HE'S SEEN IT AT THE BEGINNING. YOU KNOW, I'M PRETTY SURE ON DAY ONE HE REALIZED THAT STUDY WAS NOT NOT GOOD. SO YEAH, ALL I'M SAYING IS MISSING IT OVER UNDER IS AS BAD AS MISSING IT OVER. TRUE. WELL, LET'S START TO GET AN IDEA AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE, OKAY?

[GRANT MANAGER]

BROOKS COMING UP HERE. I'LL LET BROOK. HEY. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT ON THIS BECAUSE THIS IS NOT SEEKING Y'ALL'S AUTHORIZATION TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. THIS IS A RATIFICATION OF AN APPLICATION. SO I'LL READ THE AMENDMENT, DEBBIE, JUST SO YOU CAN HAVE IT. AND THEN I CAN GIVE YOU ALL SOME BACKGROUND. IT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION TO RATIFY THE HB 3000 RURAL AMBULANCE SERVICE GRANT

[01:10:07]

SO WE WERE WAITING FOR SOME RESPONSES FROM THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE RELATIVE TO GRANT TERMS AND CONDITIONS. WE DID GET RESPONSES, AND THE GRANTS COMMITTEE WAS SATISFIED WITH THE RESPONSES PENDING. SOME STUFF THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO DO AFTER THE FACT IN COORDINATION WITH THE DA'S OFFICE. BUT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY Y'ALL RATIFYING THE APPLICATION.

SO. SO MOVE. SORRY. SECOND. OH, SHE SHE ADMITTED IT. OH. SO YEAH THERE'S AN AMENDMENT.

MOTION. AMENDMENT. YES. SO YOU'RE WHO MADE THE MOTION? NOBODY DID. NO ONE DID. SO HE HE HE MADE THE MOTION AS BROOKE PRESENTED THE AMENDMENT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND IN ACCORDANCE WITH MOTION SECOND? OKAY. SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE AMENDMENT. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE LOGISTICS AND WITH THE RULES AND EVERYTHING. THE AMBULANCE, IF THIS GRANT IS SUCCESSFUL AND WE NAVIGATE THE LEGAL FIELD AND GET IT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS WILL INVOLVE AN MOU, AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN US. WE WILL NOT BE OPERATING THE AMBULANCE. SD WILL OPERATE THE AMBULANCE.

YES. BUT AS IT IS THE COUNTY PER THE GRANT PROGRAM, IT WAS ONLY COUNTIES THAT COULD SUBMIT A GRANT. ONLY COUNTIES CAN SUBMIT THE GRANT APPLICATION. AND IT'S ALSO KIND OF FUNKY BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS TO REMAIN OWNER OF THE AMBULANCE, WHICH IS WHY WE WOULD, AS THE JUDGE MENTIONED, WE WOULD BE DOING AN MOU OR AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE ESD RELATIVE TO THAT, ASSUMING THAT WE GET AWARDED GRANT FUNDS. THERE'S ALSO A SUB AGREEMENT THAT THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE IS GOING TO REQUIRE. IF YOU ARE THE RECIPIENT OF GRANT FUNDS. NOT SURPRISINGLY, THAT SUB AGREEMENT IS NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE UNTIL YOU GET SELECTED FOR GRANT AWARD. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF WEIRD, LIKE FISHY THINGS, KIND OF FUNKY THINGS GOING ON. BUT WE DID GET SOME CLARITY FROM THE STATE THAT THE GRANTS COMMITTEE AT LEAST FELT COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE GRANT APPLICATION, KNOWING THAT IF FOR SOME REASON Y'ALL AREN'T COMFORTABLE AS A COURT MOVING FORWARD WITH RECEIVING THE GRANT FUNDS AT THAT TIME, WE CAN ALWAYS DECLINE. WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. NO, THIS IS A BRAND NEW PROGRAM THAT'S FUNDED BY THE LEGISLATURE. HOW MUCH IS IT? 350,000. WOW. IT'S 350,000.

AND WE WOULD HAVE FIVE YEARS TO PROCURE AN AMBULANCE SERVICE AREA BEEN DEFINED. IT'S COUNTY WIDE. WIDE WOULD BE 200. WELL, YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE. SO THE WAY THAT IT WORKS IS YOU HAVE TO ON THE APPLICATION, SAY WHICH AMBULANCE PROVIDER YOU WOULD BE WORKING WITH. SO IT IS S 200. IT'S WEIRD. WALLER COUNTY EMS OPERATES AND MAINTAINS THE AMBULANCES BUT THEN THEY CONTRACT WITH ESD. IT'S KIND OF A IT'S A NEW AMBULANCE COST AROUND THAT TIME AROUND THAT MONEY YOU STILL GOT PEOPLE ON IT. I THINK THE BASE THE THE IS LIKE 150. BUT THEN WHEN YOU ADD THE EQUIPMENT. OH YEAH. THE EQUIPMENT. YEAH WE, WE KIND OF GOT AN ESTIMATED COST FROM THE ESD. AND THEY SUSPECTED THAT IT WOULD BE RIGHT AROUND THE 350,000. SO THAT WOULD BE SO AS PART OF THE GRANT APPLICATION, WE SUBMITTED WHAT'S CALLED A COVER LETTER, WHERE WE NOTIFY THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. AND THIS WAS AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE DA'S OFFICE THAT WE WOULD BE ENTERING INTO A SEPARATE AGREEMENT WITH ESD 200 RELATIVE TO MAINTENANCE, STORAGE, INSURANCE AND INDEMNIFICATION FOR LIABILITY PURPOSES. WHAT'S THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THIS PARTICULAR AMBULANCE? I DO NOT, SIR. NO, SIR. WELL, WHEN I SAID FIVE YEARS, THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO PROCURE AND OBTAIN THE AMBULANCE. I THINK THEY'VE GOTTEN BETTER ON AVAILABILITY, BUT I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TO REPLACE AMBULANCE OR IF THEY WANT TO ADD AMBULANCE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE GROWING AND THEY GET MORE AND MORE CALLS FOR AMBULANCES EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A IT'S A STRUGGLE I THINK FOR YOUR TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION

[01:15:05]

YEAH. JUST REAL QUICK I WANT TO APPRECIATE THE GRANT COMMITTEE GOING THROUGH THIS. THE GUIDELINES CAME OUT THROUGH THE STATE THAT WEREN'T VERY CLEAR. BUT THE GOAL HERE IS TO PROVIDE THE COUNTY REALLY WITH ONE EXTRA AMBULANCE, WHICH THEY DESPERATELY NEED, WHICH IS THE CALL VOLUME OF THE AMBULANCES THAT ARE GOING TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 510MI■S. YEAH, THIS IS CHALLENGING FOR US. BUT IF IT SAVES OR HELPS ONE RESIDENT, IT'S WORTH THE EFFORT. AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHY WE'RE FIGHTING FOR IT. AND I KNOW THE ESD IS VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR THEM. SO AGAIN, COMPLICATED NOT EASY.

BUT THE VALUE OF ONE PERSON BENEFITING FROM THIS ONE AMBULANCE IS I BELIEVE IT'S YEAH, I MEAN, IT CUTS DOWN ON YOUR CALL TIME IF IT'S ADDING ONE, I MEAN, YOU'RE ADDING ANOTHER AMBULANCE TO YOUR FLEET. IT REDUCES RESPONSE. IT'S ABSOLUTELY GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THE AMBULANCE. I MEAN THE DEMAND IS THERE FOR US. SO WE HAVE A CHOICE OF GETTING THERE, NOT A CHANCE TO GET THE STATE TO PAY FOR AND SAVE US. ABSOLUTELY. AND AND I WILL SAY, BRIAN AND I HAVE BOTH HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ESD 200. THEY'RE AWARE OF THE MOU THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAKE THE COUNTY FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD, ASSUMING THAT WE RECEIVE GRANT FUNDS. SO IT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE IF WE GET DOWN THE ROAD TO WHERE THIS DISASTER IS AND IT'S NOT, AND IT'S AND WE CAN'T DO IT, WE CAN'T DO IT. BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE I THINK WE TRY 100% TO TRY TO GET THAT. OH YEAH. I MEAN, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN APPLY FOR EVERY YEAR AND GET A NEW AMBULANCE, BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU CAN ROTATE AN OLD AMBULANCE OUT POTENTIALLY. I WOULD SUSPECT THIS MIGHT BE A ONE AND DONE PROGRAM. OKAY. IT'S NOT I WAS AT A CONFERENCE LAST WEEK, AND THE STATE IS PRETTY CLEAR THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THIS A PERMANENT PROGRAM. OKAY. GOOD. GOOD. THAT'D BE NICE IF WE COULD GET 1 OR 2 A YEAR. THAT WAY YOU'RE ROLLING OFF YOUR OLDER AMBULANCES OR ADDING TO IT. ONCE WE HAVE THE FRAMEWORK IN PLACE, IT'LL BE A LOT. YEAH. AND I MEAN, IF YOU ALL RECALL, WE HAD THE SAME CHALLENGES FROM A GRANT TERM AND CONDITION AND KNOWING KIND OF WHAT LIES AHEAD OF US WITH THE SB2 22 GRANT. SO THIS KIND OF PAR FOR THE COURSE WHEN IT'S A BRAND NEW GRANT PROGRAM. SO AGAIN, KIND OF DOING THINGS A LITTLE ATYPICAL FROM WHAT'S NORMALLY DONE WHERE THIS IS A RATIFICATION, BUT IT'S JUST BECAUSE WE WANTED TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AS A GRANTS COMMITTEE BEFORE SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION AND PRESENTING IT TO Y'ALL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, I APPRECIATE THE GRANT COMMITTEE'S AND YOUR WORK AS WELL. AND THE DA'S OFFICE AND STUFF THIS LIKE LIKE THE MARSHALS. CANTRELL SAID. IT'S IT'S NOT EASY, BUT IT REALLY COULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE FOR SOMETHING. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY TRYING THAT, WORKING HARD TO GET THIS DONE AND GETTING THAT APPLICATION IN UNDER THE DEADLINE AS WELL. SO ALL RIGHT, HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION THEN WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT ON THE TABLE. SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED ANY DISCUSSION ON 52 AS AMENDED. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR OF 52 AS AMENDED. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED 52 CARRIES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT,

[PROCUREMENT DIRECTOR]

COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A LEASED VEHICLE FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE FOR A NEW POSITION THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET CYCLE. OKAY. ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO ADD, CAN WE MAKE SURE THIS IS IN RED? FIRE MARSHAL, I KNOW THAT'S THE FIRE MARSHAL'S LIKE RED OVER WHITE, RED AND BLUE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON 53? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED? THREE CARRIES. LET'S GO TO 54 MOTION.

[LIBRARY]

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL OPPOSED. 54

[AUDITOR]

[01:20:06]

[TREASURER]

[MISCELLANEOUS]

AND I HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY OUR GA THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS. SO 59, 60, 61, 62, 63 WILL ALL BE WITHDRAWN LAST WEEK. DO WE GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE MEETING OR DO WE ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? WE JUST ADJOURN. WE JUST ADJOURN THE MEETING. JUST GO INTO OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO ALL THOSE WILL BE WITH JOHN WHO WE ADJOURN SECOND.

MOTION AND SECOND TO ADJOURN. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.